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Apr 11, 2019 05:40:41   #
Seth
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Most corupt administration in history


How did the Obama Administration get into this?

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Apr 11, 2019 06:23:11   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Nickolai wrote:
Trumps over head is probably in the neighborhood of $500 million

And you know this because?

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Apr 11, 2019 10:42:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
11 Hours of memory lapses. Funny, she didn't seem to be suffering from a lack of recall before or after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9UG8lSgA8



Yet with all the accusations, she remains a noble Lady to look up to.

And on the other side, some orange albatross is dragging our nation down the slope of no return if he gets his wishes..

And in front of the very people who so foolishly put him in a positions to steal the loot from his own supporters..



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Apr 11, 2019 10:52:58   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Frosty, you are as dense as Fascist Pete and the rest of the hateful Democrats who are fuming for Trump's tax return. HIS RETURN IS BEING AUDITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not going to turn over a return that is still under IRS audit. Get it??????????????????? Go look at his 2015 return that was released. The audit is done on that one and it is out.

If you are so darned intent on uncovering things that are being hidden, insist that Obama's entire life before becoming a Senator be revealed. Obama paid millions of dollars to hide his past. If Obama had nothing to hide, why did he pay millions of dollars to hide his past?

Or if you want to uncover hidden truths, try to uncover hidden facts about the Clintons' "Pay-for-Play" and money laundering in the Clinton foundation.

Really Frosty, is your hatred for Trump sooooooo great that you have to go on with this nonsense?
Frosty, you are as dense as Fascist Pete and the r... (show quote)



You are being very foolish Don,, those lies about Obama sealing his background,,,, what do you wish to know? It is all on the internet, a few seconds on Google will get you most anything..

Lady Clinton "pay-for-play"?? That is more made believe foolishness..

years of investigation found nothing..

trump steals your money right in front of you and you award him kudos..

trump steals your children future and you ask for more of the same..

I can not begin to understand your open support of a life long criminal who told you in advance his plans to market himself via the office of president and when he does these things that cost you, rather then shout and fight, you worship him..

He is near insanity with his mental problems. Maybe caused by an STD that he did not escape..

But to follow and support him is your own insanity..



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Apr 11, 2019 10:53:39   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
Just how would Trump make a couple hundred per year by any other means but laundering money for Russian and central Asian oligarchs ?


Buying and selling stuff/properties.

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Apr 11, 2019 12:11:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
[quote=permafrost]You are being very foolish Don,, those lies about Obama sealing his background,,,, what do you wish to know? It is all on the internet, a few seconds on Google will get you most anything..

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

Tap on the green print material and get the link(s) pertaining to the subject.

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Apr 11, 2019 12:18:10   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
permafrost wrote:
Yet with all the accusations, she remains a noble Lady to suck up to.

And you do it so well...

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Apr 11, 2019 12:23:19   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=slatten49]
permafrost wrote:
You are being very foolish Don,, those lies about Obama sealing his background,,,, what do you wish to know? It is all on the internet, a few seconds on Google will get you most anything..

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

Tap on the green print material and get the link(s) pertaining to the subject.




Great stuff slats,,, then as I put it into bookmarks, see I have it sitting around doing nothing..

Must be over the hill for this arguing stuff..



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Apr 11, 2019 12:42:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Great stuff slats,,, then as I put it into bookmarks, see I have it sitting around doing nothing..

Must be over the hill for this arguing stuff..



Undoubtedly, like all politicians current and past, Obama is a flawed individual. But, I can't understand why his detractors are unable to stick only to verifiable flaws and or shortcomings in his life. Instead, as with others (to include President Trump), people come up with lies, misinformation, disinformation, half-truths and innuendoes in their attempts to take him and/or any others down. All unnecessary, IMO, as there are plenty of flaws in all of 'em to pick from...bar none.

As Dragnet's Sgt. Friday is attributed to famously saying... "Just the facts, ma'am."

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Apr 11, 2019 12:48:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Undoubtedly, like all politicians current and past, Obama is a flawed individual. But, I can't understand why his detractors are unable to stick only to verifiable flaws and or shortcomings in his life. Instead, as with others (to include President Trump), people come up with lies, misinformation, disinformation, half-truths and innuendoes in their attempts to take him and/or any others down. All unnecessary, IMO, as there are plenty of flaws to pick from in all of 'em...bar none.

As Dragnet's Sgt. Friday is attributed to famously saying... "Just the facts, ma'am."
Undoubtedly, like all politicians current and past... (show quote)


I'll tell you what, I'd guess that just a little bit of the "lies, misinformation, disinformation, half-truths and innuendoes" is born in a teenser weenser bit of racism. But I could be wrong! However, looking at his entire history and things he's said and written about, I'd say some of in has a basis in fact. I also believe, based upon what I saw while he was president, that he gave racism a re-birth of sorts and declined some of the USA's swagger, which I feel is an important part of world governance/order.

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Apr 11, 2019 12:58:43   #
Nickolai
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
And you know this because?







Just conjecture of course the tax payers are picking up the tab for now.

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Apr 11, 2019 13:13:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
racism.

Always with the race card. Say anything against the worst President in the history of humanity and you're a racist.

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Apr 11, 2019 13:13:40   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Nickolai wrote:
Just conjecture of course the tax payers are picking up the tab for now.

In other words, you have no idea.

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Apr 11, 2019 14:30:15   #
Nickolai
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
In other words, you have no idea.

















It was common knowledge his life style was lavish and he needed a lot of cash, Real estate carries a lot of debt and doesn't generate a lot of cash. Therefore he needed to publish books, run a scam university, do a reality TV show, to generate cash to pay for his lavish life style. Just think of the cost of servicing his big jet airplane. The one with his name in big letters on the side and having a pilot and co pilot on stand by to fly him where ever he wanted to go. The cost of that alone would far exceed the cost of my lifestyle.

In 1990, Donald Trump’s empire and image were imploding. Running short on cash and having already missed a bond payment to the backers of his Trump Castle casino in Atlantic City, Trump was on the precipice of bankruptcy. If he defaulted on the loan, banks would swoop in, seize his prized properties, and sell them off to get their money back.
But those banks offered Trump a lifeline. They agreed to loan him more money so he could keep making payments on his various debts—under a few conditions. “The banks will name two executives to run the Trump empire, bar him from moving money among his companies without the banks’ permission, and limit him to a $450,000 allowance for ‘personal and household spending,'” the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.
The Associated Press and other news outlets called the allowance “stringent.” But Wayne Barrett, the longtime Village Voice reporter, showed how ridiculous the sum actually was in his book, Trump: The Greatest Show on Earth. “The absurdity of his personal allotment—more than the salary of the chairman of the principal bank backing the deal, Citibank, and tallying $14,516 a day—baffled even real billionaires. ‘I have no idea how to spend $450,000 a month,’ said an anonymous one to the [New York Times.'”

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Apr 11, 2019 14:56:10   #
Seth
 
[quote=Nickolai]It was common knowledge his life style was lavish and he needed a lot of cash, Real estate carries a lot of debt and doesn't generate a lot of cash. Therefore he needed to publish books, run a scam university, do a reality TV show, to generate cash to pay for his lavish life style. Just think of the cost of servicing his big jet airplane. The one with his name in big letters on the side and having a pilot and co pilot on stand by to fly him where ever he wanted to go. The cost of that alone would far exceed the cost of my lifestyle.

In 1990, Donald Trump’s empire and image were imploding. Running short on cash and having already missed a bond payment to the backers of his Trump Castle casino in Atlantic City, Trump was on the precipice of bankruptcy. If he defaulted on the loan, banks would swoop in, seize his prized properties, and sell them off to get their money back.
But those banks offered Trump a lifeline. They agreed to loan him more money so he could keep making payments on his various debts—under a few conditions. “The banks will name two executives to run the Trump empire, bar him from moving money among his companies without the banks’ permission, and limit him to a $450,000 allowance for ‘personal and household spending,'” the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.
The Associated Press and other news outlets called the allowance “stringent.” But Wayne Barrett, the longtime Village Voice reporter, showed how ridiculous the sum actually was in his book, Trump: The Greatest Show on Earth. “The absurdity of his personal allotment—more than the salary of the chairman of the principal bank backing the deal, Citibank, and tallying $14,516 a day—baffled even real billionaires. ‘I have no idea how to spend $450,000 a month,’ said an anonymous one to the [New York Times.'”[/quote]

When the money gets into the kind of numbers you're referring to, bankers are very pragmatic.

If they believe there is too much (exposure) risk attached to debt management (as opposed to foreclosure), they'll go for a "bird in the hand."

Evidently, this was not the case with Trump -- they were shrewd enough to more or less invest in the man rather than hobble him by foreclosing on his properties, because, I would venture to guess, they're obviously much better judges of character and ability than you are.

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