emarine

Ok so Mexico not paying for Trumps campaign promise & declaring a national crisis to steal funds from taxpayers from our Military... sounds more like a con job to me... Reminds me of Regan swiping SS funds to cover his butt... it might be legal but its still bad business...

JoyV

1) Nationalism is Patriotism in action. It has been a characteristic of both socialist countries, republics, monarchies, and even dictatorships.
2) Militarism is also found in socialist countries as much as in republics.
3) Identifying enemies as a unifying cause. Like today's left wing practice of identifying ICE, CBP, and police as enemies? While the right identifying terrorist as enemies is simply because they ARE enemies!!!!
4) Rampant sexism. If you mean Trump then, hiring more women in high level positions than men, paying women equal wages, and giving more than the average maternity leave; is sexist.
5) Obsession with national security. Any country which doesn't pay attention to national security will not last long as a sovereign nation. Ii don't believe inviting attacking or invading enemies to sing Kumbaya will work.
6) Religion and government are entwined. Just where did you read that was the case in Nazi Germany? Both the Nazis, Maoists, and the Soviets suppressed and even abolished religion. Our Bill of rights clearly guarantees our government will not infringe on religion. This is the opposite of suppressing religion, which is what liberals and progressives have been advocating. I'mm not a Christian but AM a Constitutionalist!
7) Corporate power is protected. No. Private property and capitalism is protected. This means ALL, whether rich or poor, are protected by the same guarantees. But in Nazi Germany, Corporate power was NOT protected. The government controlled businesses completely!
8) Labor power is suppressed. Yes. We prefer to protect the laborer instead of a powerful organization which has authority over the laborer and suppressing the laborer from advancement and can actually become even more oppressive than what they are supposed to be protecting the laborer from.
9) Disdain for intellectualism. Yes. We value engineers over liberal arts any day. Science over philosophy. Mathematics over psychology.
10) Massive cronyism and corruption. These, especially the latter, have been far more prevalent under Democrat administrations than Republican ones.
11) Fraudulent elections. Not as big as the election stolen in my state by the democrats to put Sinema in the Senate. After the polls closed, the rules were changed which disqualified mail-in-ballots from all but three counties in the state. Those three were the counties with all the large urban populations. The rural counties rely far more on mail-in-ballots and some counties have more than 95% of the voters using mail-in-ballots. All those ballots were discarded! The reason given for the rule change was that the rural counties did not do things the same as the urban counties. There was not one example given of a county's handling of mail-in-ballot fraud or disenfranchisement. And the rural counties were not even given a chance to conform to urban practices as the new rule was written AFTER the polls closed but made retroactive.

Just because antifa's name is anti-fascist does not jive with their fascist actions! Brown-shirts or black-shirts. They and antifa behave the same!

Morgan

Hitler found his way in through a dying party and resurrected it, gave people what they wanted to hear, much like Trump running on the Republican ticket and bouncing back to them what they already had been chanting, along with the division of Democratic party for Bernie, he won. What I'm saying is that Hitler was about as much as a socialist as Trump is a Republican.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Ha! You should know!

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

You really need to find the true meaning of nationalism, then you just might change your mind. Nah, that just wouldn't fit the parameters of your TDS.

sbv0130

Trump made promises he knew he could not keep. He had two years to get his wall funded under a Republican Congress, but now that 2020 looms near, all of a sudden he's pushing a Democratic house to grant him funds he knows they will not provide, just so he can place blame on them when his promised wall is not built. Construction is still being done on the fencing funded in 2006. What makes him think HIS wall would ever be built, much less completed, within his lifetime?

JoyV

If you believe patriotism to ones nation is only justified during times of war, when our country or an ally is threatened, there will be no motivation by the populace to defend. This was the case in the US at the beginning of WWII. Patriotism was low. Preparations for war, both on the mechanization side and the populace willingness side; were slow to build. We were late comers to the war. If Japan hadn't attacked, who knows whether we would ever have stirred as a nation. Having a military prepared for war, is ever so much more sensible. Nor should patriotism to ones nation be relegated to war time. Without American patriotism, the upholding of our constitution becomes weak. Without our populace holding our government to the constitutional rights and restrictions, our populace will lose their guarantees of rights and eventually be enslaved to the state.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

I believe they spent the majority of that time working on a few somewhat higher priorities, like the non-repeal of the ACA, for instance. One thing at a time.

JoyV

Steal taxpayer's money? The money has already been paid out. The taxpayer's money is already spent. The military and other sources Trump is tapping would not have returned the money to the general fund. This just directs where some of it is used.

I agree regarding Reagan. But don't forget Clinton's gutting our military and pulling funding from other areas to create his one time surplus. Note that there was no lessening or plateauing of the national debt which would have been the case if he actually HAD balanced the budget. He did this to look like a hero on the short term, while leaving our military, especially navy, in shambles for years.

JoyV

All of a sudden? He has been pushing for wall funding all along. You seem to think just because there was a Republican controlled congress, Trump had only to state his will and they would all line up like socialist collectivists touting the party line. Trump had the populace behind him. He did not have the support of the elite politicians on either the left or right. They rightly saw him as a threat to their gravy train. Despite having to fight an uphill battle not only against the Democrat politicians, but against the RINOs; he was still getting much accomplished.

emarine

things are very different from pre WW2 to the start of the cold war... just look at our Military budget to start...we have been well prepared for war for along time now...


As opposed to patriotism, which involves social conditioning and personal opinion, nationalism involves national identity and the belief that one's nation and/or its government is supreme. [W]hile nationalism can unite people it must be noted that it unites people against other people.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

That's its weakness. Patriotism unites on an internal basis, Nationalism promotes fear of outsiders and makes war far more likely. Much better to be a patriot and forego the hate and fear.

sbv0130

It's all part of the budget which is supposed to be done annually. ACA was never repealed, just defunded. The big tax cut reduced the amount of income for the budget so there is no money for his wall, but he's not smart enough to figure that out. If he's so head strong about national security, why take funding from the military?? If he wanted that wall so much he should have asked for funding in small portions starting back in 2017, rather than expecting to get it all in one lump sum. He's not very forward-thinking.

emarine

I agree... but which way is it being sold here now?... we now require more wall to keep invaders out... this is a fear based pitch... & I have no problem with deporting every illegal now that's in our country … Trump is dealing with this issue poorly...

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

He's a nationalist, for sure, but he has a good point with the southern border. You don't hear him raising the alarm on the northern border because the threat is from the south, not the north. When he says they're trafficking in people, what he means is that they're slavers, in the old school meaning that they literally deal in humans being owned and exploited by others. When he says they bring drugs, he doesn't mean a few ounces of pot for the weekend blowout, he means fentanyl and heroin, the kinds of drugs that kill people every day. When he says they bring gang violence, he means that people are being killed on a daily basis by thugs who have no business being here. When he says we need a wall on our southern border, he's not being a racist or a xenophobe, he's being a realist in his mission to secure the safety and well-being of the American people, by keeping these dangerous and harmful influences out. Get the southern border secured and see the patriotism blossom.