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Feb 18, 2019 20:13:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
redpill wrote:
I had a minister once that I truly admired. He always put the scriptures in context of the era in which they were written. I find it absurd that many interpret scripture according to the world of today. Unless the writers were psychic how would they be able to contemplate the changes.

I had visited many sects and denominations in my youth to find the one that fit with my beliefs, my world view. I found it curious at the time and ludicrous now that the same exact passage can be interpreted nearly 180 degrees by some groups. That is why I enjoyed the minister using context to explain the passage and then translating it to the modern world.

Oh BTW, I know I am damned to hell, just ask many of the people of other faiths that know me.
I had a minister once that I truly admired. He al... (show quote)


Only God decides who is damned...
You might be surprised...

In my opinion true scripture should apply to all societies and all ages....

Keep searching and I'm sure God will Keeo smiling

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Feb 18, 2019 20:14:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
To me, Jesus KNOWS that the universe/world/life was not actually created the way the Bible myth says. I think Gawd has a bit of a chuckle seeing as some people haven't figured that out yet.


God has a grwat sense of humor...
Just ask the platypus

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Feb 18, 2019 23:48:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
God has a grwat sense of humor...
Just ask the platypus


True story!

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Feb 19, 2019 11:20:58   #
Kazudy
 
truthiness wrote:
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Well, I am sure we "doubters" appreciate the sincerity of your efforts to bring us to your way of thinking confined and restricted as it is. As I read the gospels, the following sticks out to me: "He who believeth and is baptized shall be saved..." . We know what the various forms of christian baptism entails. What about belief? I can't seem to find Jesus saying that a person has to believe the 6-day creation or a planet that is only 6000 years old in order to be saved. It seems to my reading that he was saying that the critical belief is to be able to confess in his literal atoning for the one's sins. This seems to be the core of his message regarding belief.
Why conflate what he obviously says (belief in him, his mission, and his death and resurrection) with what you think should be included in that belief (e.g., 6-day creation or disbelief in an evolutionary scheme that takes place in every genetics laboratory) and which has no bearing at all on salvation? In other words what right do you have to add criteria to the criteria of salvation that he so he so clearly and unambiguously stated?
... br Well, I am sure we "doubters" app... (show quote)

Genisis1:1. In the begin in God created the heaven and Earth. Notice a period after verse one. How long that took we don't know. In some occasions if one ask God to give a sign of His existence, He does.

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Feb 19, 2019 16:20:07   #
truthiness
 
Kazudy wrote:
Genisis1:1. In the begin in God created the heaven and Earth. Notice a period after verse one. How long that took we don't know. In some occasions if one ask God to give a sign of His existence, He does.


And that "sign" is...?

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Feb 19, 2019 22:27:50   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Evolution was proven long ago...
Being a Christian doesn't put one in conflict with the theory...
Scientists can be wrong.... They are just as fallible as the next person...


Which type of evolution?

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Feb 19, 2019 22:33:50   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Which type of evolution?


The general theory that organisms can diverge over time into different species due to selective changes in their DNA....

Nice to meet you

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Feb 19, 2019 22:42:32   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The general theory that organisms can diverge over time into different species due to selective changes in their DNA....

Nice to meet you


I actually think this is all we need to know:

Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

1John 4:11-12

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Feb 19, 2019 22:44:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Navysnipe wrote:
I actually think this is all we need to know:

Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

1John 4:11-12


I agree.. Spiritually this is more than enough

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Feb 20, 2019 13:25:35   #
Kazudy
 
redpill wrote:
I had a minister once that I truly admired. He always put the scriptures in context of the era in which they were written. I find it absurd that many interpret scripture according to the world of today. Unless the writers were psychic how would they be able to contemplate the changes.

I had visited many sects and denominations in my youth to find the one that fit with my beliefs, my world view. I found it curious at the time and ludicrous now that the same exact passage can be interpreted nearly 180 degrees by some groups. That is why I enjoyed the minister using context to explain the passage and then translating it to the modern world.

Oh BTW, I know I am damned to hell, just ask many of the people of other faiths that know me.
I had a minister once that I truly admired. He al... (show quote)


Red pill,"I had visited many sects and denominations in my youth TO FIND ONE THAT FIT MY BELIEFS" that is looking for something with a closed mind already. Listen to Catholics, Protastants, the Jewish religion, even Islam and other religions. Yes in the early days a lot of words had not come to existence yet, but the meaning is there. The word dinasaour did not exist untill the 1800's or it would have been in the Bible. Back in 1993 I decided to read the King James Bible cover to cover, it didn't take that long. Now I see that predictions in the book of Daniel and Revalation are coming to pass. Did you know that the Bible instructed the people to wash their hands with"running water"? Doctors found that to be true as they use to use the same water container to wash their hands between surgerys and were exposing patients to diseases, it also says that the Easth is a sphere. Open your mind to the possibility of the Designer of the Universe to be our Father, btw He loves you and does not want you to be damned to hell.

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Feb 24, 2019 21:43:05   #
redpill Loc: Oregon - not PDX
 
Kazudy wrote:
Red pill,"I had visited many sects and denominations in my youth TO FIND ONE THAT FIT MY BELIEFS" that is looking for something with a closed mind already. Listen to Catholics, Protastants, the Jewish religion, even Islam and other religions. Yes in the early days a lot of words had not come to existence yet, but the meaning is there. The word dinasaour did not exist untill the 1800's or it would have been in the Bible. Back in 1993 I decided to read the King James Bible cover to cover, it didn't take that long. Now I see that predictions in the book of Daniel and Revalation are coming to pass. Did you know that the Bible instructed the people to wash their hands with"running water"? Doctors found that to be true as they use to use the same water container to wash their hands between surgerys and were exposing patients to diseases, it also says that the Easth is a sphere. Open your mind to the possibility of the Designer of the Universe to be our Father, btw He loves you and does not want you to be damned to hell.
Red pill,"I had visited many sects and denomi... (show quote)


I will admit that I am not a Bible expert. My point was that some "religions" are not based on anything other than an egomaniac's charisma that lures weak-minded folks into believing the crap they dish out. Sorry folks, that does not fit into my world view. I prize thinking far above pure faith, though faith has its place. I hope to never be charmed into a cult led by the likes of Jim Jones or Mohamed. If that be a closed mind, so be it.

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Feb 25, 2019 12:28:11   #
Kazudy
 
truthiness wrote:
And that "sign" is...?


That be between God and the person asking.

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Feb 25, 2019 12:35:17   #
Kazudy
 
redpill wrote:
I will admit that I am not a Bible expert. My point was that some "religions" are not based on anything other than an egomaniac's charisma that lures weak-minded folks into believing the crap they dish out. Sorry folks, that does not fit into my world view. I prize thinking far above pure faith, though faith has its place. I hope to never be charmed into a cult led by the likes of Jim Jones or Mohamed. If that be a closed mind, so be it.


You are absolutely right. In my case Jesus Christ the second person of The Triune God is The Way The Truth and The Life. Proven cults Jehovah Witnesses, Mormans, Cathoics ect.

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Feb 25, 2019 17:14:24   #
truthiness
 
Kazudy wrote:
That be between God and the person asking.


...Which in turn means there is no need for scripture. Everyone receives his own personal revelation.

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Feb 27, 2019 11:05:20   #
Kazudy
 
truthiness wrote:
...Which in turn means there is no need for scripture. Everyone receives his own personal revelation.


How will you know about God or Allah or Buddah if you don't check them out?

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