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Rand Paul, Hypocrisy
Jan 15, 2019 09:50:41   #
moldyoldy
 
Rand Paul, Who Once Called Universal Healthcare ‘Slavery,’ Goes to Canada for Surgery

Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) isn’t a fan of universal healthcare in the U.S., but apparently trusts the system in Canada enough to operate on him.
That’s according to a recent article from the Louisville Courier-Journal, which reported Monday that Sen. Paul is going to Ontario, Canada, to get surgery relating to a 2017 incident in which his neighbor in Kentucky tackled him from behind while he was doing yard work.

Paul will specifically be going to Canada for hernia surgery, booking an appointment at Shouldice Hernia Hospital, which markets itself as “the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair.” The Courier-Journal reported that Sen. Paul can expect to pay between $5,000 and $8,000 for the surgery. That’s significantly cheaper than what Paul would pay in the U.S., in which an inpatient hernia procedure costs more than $11,000 on average.
While Sen. Paul certainly can’t be faulted for trying to save money, choosing to fly to Canada for a healthcare procedure flies in the face of his political philosophy. As early as 2011, Sen. Paul, who is an ophthalmologist, described a universal healthcare system as “slavery.”
“You have to realize what [demanding a right to healthcare] implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery,” Paul said in a committee hearing. “It means you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.”

While the hospital Paul is going to is privately owned, it’s still publicly funded as part of Canada’s healthcare system, in which everyone is guaranteed healthcare as a right, funded by taxpayer dollars. Even though Canada doesn’t allow for private hospitals, Shouldice is one of the few private institutions that was grandfathered into the nation’s current universal healthcare system.
https://gritpost.com/rand-paul-canada-surgery/?fbclid=IwAR0F48VznK8EGtJVjbcqKTFyHVpyoPG8YkktYu5tfP9Jog1C4t7d_jE4R1Q

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Jan 15, 2019 10:24:01   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Rand Paul, Who Once Called Universal Healthcare ‘Slavery,’ Goes to Canada for Surgery

Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) isn’t a fan of universal healthcare in the U.S., but apparently trusts the system in Canada enough to operate on him.
That’s according to a recent article from the Louisville Courier-Journal, which reported Monday that Sen. Paul is going to Ontario, Canada, to get surgery relating to a 2017 incident in which his neighbor in Kentucky tackled him from behind while he was doing yard work.

Paul will specifically be going to Canada for hernia surgery, booking an appointment at Shouldice Hernia Hospital, which markets itself as “the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair.” The Courier-Journal reported that Sen. Paul can expect to pay between $5,000 and $8,000 for the surgery. That’s significantly cheaper than what Paul would pay in the U.S., in which an inpatient hernia procedure costs more than $11,000 on average.
While Sen. Paul certainly can’t be faulted for trying to save money, choosing to fly to Canada for a healthcare procedure flies in the face of his political philosophy. As early as 2011, Sen. Paul, who is an ophthalmologist, described a universal healthcare system as “slavery.”
“You have to realize what [demanding a right to healthcare] implies. It’s not an abstraction. I’m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery,” Paul said in a committee hearing. “It means you’re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.”

While the hospital Paul is going to is privately owned, it’s still publicly funded as part of Canada’s healthcare system, in which everyone is guaranteed healthcare as a right, funded by taxpayer dollars. Even though Canada doesn’t allow for private hospitals, Shouldice is one of the few private institutions that was grandfathered into the nation’s current universal healthcare system.
https://gritpost.com/rand-paul-canada-surgery/?fbclid=IwAR0F48VznK8EGtJVjbcqKTFyHVpyoPG8YkktYu5tfP9Jog1C4t7d_jE4R1Q
Rand Paul, Who Once Called Universal Healthcare ‘S... (show quote)


How is that hypocrisy? The Canadian taxpayers aren't going to pay for it, he is.

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Jan 15, 2019 10:34:57   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
archie bunker wrote:
How is that hypocrisy? The Canadian taxpayers aren't going to pay for it, he is.


just to save a few bucks lol

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Jan 15, 2019 10:49:01   #
moldyoldy
 
archie bunker wrote:
How is that hypocrisy? The Canadian taxpayers aren't going to pay for it, he is.


You wall nuts always complain that socialized medicine is no good.

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Jan 15, 2019 11:05:11   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
archie bunker wrote:
How is that hypocrisy? The Canadian taxpayers aren't going to pay for it, he is.



Not only that but the hospital is private, as noted below. It remains as a competitive entity on the world market.

Like Jim Acosta at that Texas wall, moldyoldy doesn't realize he's proving the critics right.

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Shouldice is one of the few private institutions that was grandfathered into the nation’s current universal healthcare system. [/quote]

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Jan 15, 2019 11:09:46   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You wall nuts always complain that socialized medicine is no good.

Do you understand the difference between a particular kind of procedure, and an entire healthcare system?


Shouldice Hernia Hospital, which markets itself as.. “the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair.”

Just because he wants the best “DOCTORS” for the job, doesn’t mean he has to agree with the entire system in which they work.

Besides, if it wasn’t because of some whacked out leftist, he wouldn’t need the surgery at all...

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Jan 15, 2019 11:25:59   #
moldyoldy
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Do you understand the difference between a particular kind of procedure, and an entire healthcare system?


Shouldice Hernia Hospital, which markets itself as.. “the global leader in non-mesh hernia repair.”

Just because he wants the best “DOCTORS” for the job, doesn’t mean he has to agree with the entire system in which they work.

Besides, if it wasn’t because of some whacked out leftist, he wouldn’t need the surgery at all...
Do you understand the difference between a particu... (show quote)


But, those countries do not have good capitalistic expensive, overpriced medicine.

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Jan 15, 2019 11:27:31   #
moldyoldy
 
Private hospital, folded into the system.

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Jan 15, 2019 11:42:11   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
jimpack123 wrote:
just to save a few bucks lol


What's wrong with that?

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Jan 15, 2019 11:46:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
But, those countries do not have good capitalistic expensive, overpriced medicine.


OK Moldy. So, if you needed a procedure performed and could afford to go somewhere, and have it done by the best, and save thousands of dollars at the same time, you wouldn't do it just to not be what you consider a hypocrite? Is that what you're saying?

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Jan 15, 2019 11:51:14   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
moldyoldy wrote:
But, those countries do not have good capitalistic expensive, overpriced medicine.

But, apparently, they have the best people for the job.

I’m having a really difficult time figuring out what your point is, Moldy.

Are you perhaps suggesting that because Paul went to Canada for a specific procedure, we should change our whole system?

What about when a Canadian comes to the U.S. for a specific procedure?

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Jan 15, 2019 12:43:57   #
moldyoldy
 
archie bunker wrote:
OK Moldy. So, if you needed a procedure performed and could afford to go somewhere, and have it done by the best, and save thousands of dollars at the same time, you wouldn't do it just to not be what you consider a hypocrite? Is that what you're saying?


The air fare and hotel costs will most likely wipe out the savings, so the bottom line is universal healthcare is not what the right tries to pretend that it is.

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Jan 15, 2019 13:02:04   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The air fare and hotel costs will most likely wipe out the savings, so the bottom line is universal healthcare is not what the right tries to pretend that it is.


C-mon, Moldy! He's not going for the political aspect of it! He's going because that's where the best doctors to fix his problem caused by a left wing phsyco are, and paying out of his own pocket. So what's the big deal?

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Jan 17, 2019 00:42:34   #
Red Onion Rip Loc: Oklahoma
 
I don't blame him. My wife had two hernia surgeries and was assured by her doctor that he would NOT be using the recalled mesh for her repairs. Two and a half years later she had to go through both surgeries again to have the recalled mesh removed and the hernias repaired properly. She then joined the class-action lawsuit and got a nice chunk of change from it. Sorry, non-disclosure agreement prevents me from saying how much she got. I have a navel hernia that I really should get repaired and I'm thinking about going to Ontario to have it done now. I'm glad I read about that specalized hospital.

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