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Jan 13, 2019 09:51:38   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
sisboombaa wrote:
How would/could anyone calculate the number of illegals. Even if someone could the numbers would change daily. We do know the numbers are huge. There are flocks crossing the border every day. The amount on welfare can be counted but what percentage are illegal? How would they know who is illegal? Does the welfare rolls know? How do they know? Fact, there are illegals on our side of the border. One is too many. It is a situation that should be addressed. It's easy to pass a law but more difficult to enforce the law. My opinion is; if the law cannot be enforced uniformly get the law off the books. Should we remove all laws dealing with immigration it is common sense that tells us the U.S. will be doomed. That means we should do what ever is necessary to stop the migration that is in violation of our laws. What is going on now is a big sad joke on we citizens. The tax payers are paying through the nose and receiving little to nothing in the way of results. Build the damn wall. It's cheap at any price and may do some good. Something has to be done. If the government can't or won't, I fear the citizens will (in an uncontrolled way) and innocent people will get hurt. The government does not appear to want to protect us and at the same time wants to remove our ability to protect ourselves. The government should wake up and fly right or there is going to be bigger problems for both the government and citizens. Good luck to us all as we're going to need it.
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You have a clear view if the situation. I have been waiting for armed militias to appear on the border armed to the teeth and willing to use those weapons to repel invaders.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:04:45   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
cbpat1 wrote:
So after reading kevyns post on what certain locations all have in common, about high security places that have no walls, that I would put it to the test. I decided, that my backyard, with a six foot wooden wall, that I use as a barrier to keep my dogs safely secure, is racist and needed to come down. So it took me all weekend, but, I took down my immoral wall, set up surveillance cameras, set up sonar, radar and a drone.

Next I slid open my sliding glass barrier from my house and let my three dogs, all Black Mouth Cur’s, into the backyard, to see how my new security system worked.

Well, before I knew it they were all about three houses down, running like hell, all in different directions. The surveillance cameras did absolutely nothing to stop them at all, I was shocked. The sonar failed and the radar was worthless as well. The drone hit a electric line and crashed and burned in my next door neighbors front yard.

My smallest dog, JB ran out in front of a car and got hit and had to be put down.

Maggie, my only female, bit the little boy down the street and now I am being sued.

Louie, the biggest male, got caught by the dog catcher and cost me $150.00 to get out of the doggie slammer.

All in all, I decided that walls really do work and put my six foot wooden wall back up in my back yard. Funny how in over twenty five years of having my six foot high wooden wall, I never had any of the several dogs we had in those many years ever get out of our back yard.

I think walls or fences or whatever you want to call them, really do work, and you would have to be pretty stupid to think they don’t.
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sorry about your doggie loss

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Jan 13, 2019 10:48:03   #
cbpat1
 
Gatsby wrote:
Try to keep 100 cattle out of a 100 acres of corn, without a fence!



My grandparents were farmers many years ago, so, yeah, I have seen it first hand when a fence is down what happens to the cattle. Perfect example too.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:56:46   #
bahmer
 
cbpat1 wrote:
So after reading kevyns post on what certain locations all have in common, about high security places that have no walls, that I would put it to the test. I decided, that my backyard, with a six foot wooden wall, that I use as a barrier to keep my dogs safely secure, is racist and needed to come down. So it took me all weekend, but, I took down my immoral wall, set up surveillance cameras, set up sonar, radar and a drone.

Next I slid open my sliding glass barrier from my house and let my three dogs, all Black Mouth Cur’s, into the backyard, to see how my new security system worked.

Well, before I knew it they were all about three houses down, running like hell, all in different directions. The surveillance cameras did absolutely nothing to stop them at all, I was shocked. The sonar failed and the radar was worthless as well. The drone hit a electric line and crashed and burned in my next door neighbors front yard.

My smallest dog, JB ran out in front of a car and got hit and had to be put down.

Maggie, my only female, bit the little boy down the street and now I am being sued.

Louie, the biggest male, got caught by the dog catcher and cost me $150.00 to get out of the doggie slammer.

All in all, I decided that walls really do work and put my six foot wooden wall back up in my back yard. Funny how in over twenty five years of having my six foot high wooden wall, I never had any of the several dogs we had in those many years ever get out of our back yard.

I think walls or fences or whatever you want to call them, really do work, and you would have to be pretty stupid to think they don’t.
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Amen and Amen

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Jan 13, 2019 12:08:10   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
BBianch wrote:
Most undocumented immigrants in this country did not enter the U.S. at the Southern border.

And they didn't enter near the border town of McAllen, Texas, which the president visited Thursday during the 20th day of a partial government shutdown fought over constructing additional barriers on the Southern border.

When it comes to people in the country without proper documentation, the majority of them didn't cross the Mexican border at all. Most of them came to the United States legally — but then don't leave.

About 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas in fiscal 2017, the most recent year for which the Department of Homeland Security has published figures. DHS estimated that, as of Sept. 30, 2017, the end of that fiscal year, more than 600,000 of those travelers were still in the U.S.

During that same year, there were just 300,000 apprehensions along the Southern border, according to Customs and Border Protection — the lowest number since 1971.

Visa overstays have outnumbered people who enter the country illegally at the Southern border every year since 2007, according to a report by the Center for Migration Studies. The report's authors estimate that the number of total visa overstays was 600,000 more than the total number of border crossers and that in 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new undocumented immigrants.

Immigrants traveling through Mexico, of course, take up much of the public's attention on the issue of illegal immigration. And they do account for almost all people apprehended by CBP, which includes the Border Patrol. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement largely works in the interior of the country.)

Those caught by the U.S. government can apply for asylum if they can claim a credible fear that their lives would be in danger by returning to their home countries; some immigrants, in fact, turn themselves in to federal agents to do so.

"A growing percentage of border crossers in recent years have originated in the Northern Triangle states of Central America," wrote Robert Warren and Donald Kerwin of the Center for Migration Studies. "These migrants are fleeing pervasive violence, persecution and poverty, and a large number do not seek to evade arrest, but present themselves to border officials and request political asylum. Many are de facto refugees, not illegal border crossers," the authors wrote.

In 2017, the Border Patrol employed more than 19,000 agents, almost double the number in fiscal 2003. And the agency's budget grew from $263 million in 1990 to more $3.8 billion in 2016, according to the American Immigration Council. The budget for Customs and Border Protection — which includes the Border Patrol — has grown from $5.9 billion in 2003 to $13.2 billion in 2016.

At the same time, apprehensions at the Southern border have declined — from a high of more than 1.6 million in 2000 to just over 300,000 in 2017.

Does the wall deter crossings?

CBP data shows that the number of people that agents have caught has decreased across the board — not just in areas where the government constructed barriers.

Both the El Paso and Rio Grande sectors have physical barriers in place to prevent illegal crossings into the United States. Pedestrian fencing stretches to both sides of the city of El Paso in West Texas, with vehicle barriers along much of the rest of the New Mexico border. In south Texas, pedestrian fencing dots the area around McAllen and expands most of the way from there to the Gulf of Mexico.

The Tucson sector, which covers most of Arizona and is almost completely blocked by vehicle and pedestrian fencing, has seen a recent increase in apprehensions. In fiscal 2018, CBP caught about 52,000 people there, including an estimated 5,000 unaccompanied minors.

The sector of the Southwestern border with the fewest apprehensions, on the other hand, has almost no fencing. The Big Bend sector, starting in West Texas and extending about halfway down the state, is the largest individual sector guarded by CBP. The rough terrain of the mountain ranges and the Chihuahuan Desert make it a difficult place to cross. In fiscal 2018, CBP apprehended just 8,000 people there.

There is no southern border “crises” and an absence of any factual information supporting that claim.
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Where are the statistics for people illegally crossing the southern border and not being caught? That number could equal or even exceed the number caught.

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Jan 13, 2019 12:17:51   #
Auntie Lulu
 
cbpat1 wrote:
So after reading kevyns post on what certain locations all have in common, about high security places that have no walls, that I would put it to the test. I decided, that my backyard, with a six foot wooden wall, that I use as a barrier to keep my dogs safely secure, is racist and needed to come down. So it took me all weekend, but, I took down my immoral wall, set up surveillance cameras, set up sonar, radar and a drone.

Next I slid open my sliding glass barrier from my house and let my three dogs, all Black Mouth Cur’s, into the backyard, to see how my new security system worked.

Well, before I knew it they were all about three houses down, running like hell, all in different directions. The surveillance cameras did absolutely nothing to stop them at all, I was shocked. The sonar failed and the radar was worthless as well. The drone hit a electric line and crashed and burned in my next door neighbors front yard.

My smallest dog, JB ran out in front of a car and got hit and had to be put down.

Maggie, my only female, bit the little boy down the street and now I am being sued.

Louie, the biggest male, got caught by the dog catcher and cost me $150.00 to get out of the doggie slammer.

All in all, I decided that walls really do work and put my six foot wooden wall back up in my back yard. Funny how in over twenty five years of having my six foot high wooden wall, I never had any of the several dogs we had in those many years ever get out of our back yard.

I think walls or fences or whatever you want to call them, really do work, and you would have to be pretty stupid to think they don’t.
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That is not only hilarious, but very, very true. What really gets me is that people actually buy into the notion that walls do not work--How Stupid is that! It is sad that in our country, the left's hatred of Trump is greater than their love of our country. I find this to be rather traitorous of them, particularly since according to historical records--they used to support building a wall along our Southern boarder.

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Jan 13, 2019 12:19:38   #
sisboombaa
 
Louie27 wrote:
Where are the statistics for people illegally crossing the southern border and not being caught? That number could equal or even exceed the number caught.


Good point. That question should be on every ones mind. It's my humble guess the undetected is a much larger total than the others.

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Jan 13, 2019 12:46:59   #
Gatsby
 
pafret wrote:
The numbers have been estimated by various groups with lows of eight to ten million to the high of thirty million. I am not going to go research what is common knowledge for you, do your own work. I stand by my statement that with an influx of thousands through our southern border monthly, to claim the majority of illegals overstay their visas is stupid. It denys reality.


That's why the citizenship question needs to be included in the 2020 census.

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Jan 13, 2019 13:12:35   #
Comment Loc: California
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Love it!!


Me ttooooo!

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Jan 13, 2019 14:37:27   #
son of witless
 
cbpat1 wrote:
So after reading kevyns post on what certain locations all have in common, about high security places that have no walls, that I would put it to the test. I decided, that my backyard, with a six foot wooden wall, that I use as a barrier to keep my dogs safely secure, is racist and needed to come down. So it took me all weekend, but, I took down my immoral wall, set up surveillance cameras, set up sonar, radar and a drone.

Next I slid open my sliding glass barrier from my house and let my three dogs, all Black Mouth Cur’s, into the backyard, to see how my new security system worked.

Well, before I knew it they were all about three houses down, running like hell, all in different directions. The surveillance cameras did absolutely nothing to stop them at all, I was shocked. The sonar failed and the radar was worthless as well. The drone hit a electric line and crashed and burned in my next door neighbors front yard.

My smallest dog, JB ran out in front of a car and got hit and had to be put down.

Maggie, my only female, bit the little boy down the street and now I am being sued.

Louie, the biggest male, got caught by the dog catcher and cost me $150.00 to get out of the doggie slammer.

All in all, I decided that walls really do work and put my six foot wooden wall back up in my back yard. Funny how in over twenty five years of having my six foot high wooden wall, I never had any of the several dogs we had in those many years ever get out of our back yard.

I think walls or fences or whatever you want to call them, really do work, and you would have to be pretty stupid to think they don’t.
So after reading kevyns post on what certain locat... (show quote)


Those poor poochies. All for want of a wall. Besides being for illegal immigration, Liberals hate dogs.

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Jan 13, 2019 14:50:13   #
cbpat1
 
[quote=son of witless]Those poor poochies. All for want of a wall. Besides being for illegal immigration, Liberals hate dogs.[/quote


Thats right! And only mean people can hate a dog.

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Jan 13, 2019 14:52:07   #
cbpat1
 
Funny, we haven't heard from kevyn on this subject.

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Jan 13, 2019 14:52:42   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
sisboombaa wrote:
So sorry to hear of your failed experiment. Hope you learned a lessen which is never ever follow advice from Kevyn. One wonders how many other people have been led astray by Kevyn only to suffer. Perhaps the government should pass a law requiring that Kevyn be covered with warning labels.


Maybe he should be surrounded by (drumroll please...) a WALL! Poor boy, he'd be quite entertaining if he weren't so childish.

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Jan 13, 2019 15:05:57   #
son of witless
 
[quote=cbpat1][quote=son of witless]Those poor poochies. All for want of a wall. Besides being for illegal immigration, Liberals hate dogs.[/quote


Thats right! And only mean people can hate a dog.[/quote]

I hate people who hate dogs. I knew I had a good reason to hate liberals , and now I know what it is.

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Jan 13, 2019 15:14:04   #
Comment Loc: California
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Funny, we haven't heard from kevyn on this subject.


Ant funny; he is in hiding.

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