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Dec 1, 2018 18:02:53   #
rumitoid
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I watched the first video and will watch the other when I have the time. But if you think any of these Loony Left will watch common sense you're wasting your time. They don't listen to reason. They don't listen to right. Every agenda they support rips America apart. Hell, they voted for Hillary the criminal traitor. But you're not alone. I waste a lot of time trying to make these crazed leftist see the nose in front of their face. They give genocide a good name.


You guys too often make these absurd claims, that help to diminish any point you are trying to make. Whether or not Hillary should have been investigated and indicted as a "criminal traitor," that did not happen, so calling her a "criminal traitor" is libel. I waste way too much time trying to correct people on the Right from unsubstantiated accusations. No evidence is ever provided for those scurrilous claims, like here. Grow up.

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Dec 1, 2018 18:28:17   #
rumitoid
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
You'll have to excuse me if I don't go all to pieces over this myriad of "lies". What was the ultimate cost of these "lies" to the nation? I fail to find any earth shaking consequences, they sound to me like individuals trying to cover for each other but who knows. I am far from convinced that there was anything deleterious to this country, wrong though it allegedly was. I find that situations such as surfaced during the recent election in Florida, far more dangerous to the Republic. Our entire system of government is based on an honest electorate and voting system and anyone that tampers with this balance is, in my eyes, guilty of treason. This is much more serious than alleged lying to cover minor errors, although that is a sin of lesser magnitude.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't go all to piec... (show quote)


I am sorry you do not have the capacity, actually or purposely, to see the far-reaching implications of secret dealings with the Russians that Trump continually lied about. If your sibling knew that you lied about sneaking out after curfew, would he have some leverage on you for a special favor? Of course he would. Putin knew Trump was lying about having no dealings with Russia, they even supported the lies of the Trump administration. Why? Trump was compromised and ready to left the sanctions, as he openly stated in a rally after prompted by a Russian agent (who is now in US Custody for attacks on our election process). Why lift the sanctions? He needed money for the Moscow Tower from a Putin-backed bank. Our sanctions denied that possibility.

If your major concern is an "honest electorate and voting system," please google the abuses by the GOP in Georgia and North Carolina.

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Dec 1, 2018 21:00:01   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
The point is that you never made any accusations against hillary or obama but you seem to come out of the woodwork with any and every conceivable error President Trump may have made, honest or not. You can't accept any of our President's superb work in improving the state of our Republic which makes you incredible hypocrites when your failure to mention any liberals shortcomings was evident. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, remember? And for you guys, a double helping is well deserved!
The point is that you never made any accusations a... (show quote)


First of all Dems didn't need to make accusations against Obama and Clinton. The Repubs were doing a fine job without us. - everything from broomsticks to fake hangings, comparisons to apes and refusal to seat his judges.

Trump would get more respect if he stopped calling Mexicans rapists, Muslims terrorists, the caravan vermin, countries in Africa shitholes. He picks a fight with anyone who is critical. he lost my vote at the first debate when he gave degrading names to his opponents. Respect is earned.


It's great that the economy is doing so well but already the stock market is wobbling and tariffs are causing companies to fold or move out of the country.

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Dec 1, 2018 21:48:30   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Keep posting the gibberish rumi, when Trump releases his 66,000 pages (including the fake FISA warrant) of information data dump, you will see (probably not) where the REAL collusion was. But, like I said, probably not. You don't seem to get out of mommy and daddy's basement much...



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Dec 1, 2018 22:00:15   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
BTW,collusion-dellusion is NOT a crime!!!!! I wasnt born here and even i know that!!!!


Conspiring with a foreign government against the government and people of the United States is a crime and collusion is exactly that.

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Dec 1, 2018 23:50:00   #
Hogback
 
rumitoid wrote:
It starts with Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor, and his aide, K T McFarland. There are a number of actors already involved in this intricate conspiracy, but Flynn is the best place to start. As the president's NSA, it would be a little odd but not wrong to talk to Russia about lifting sanctions. Almost part of his job. But he lied, saying he did not talk about sanctions with Russia, and was convicted on that falsehood. Why did he lie? His aide, totally intimate with operations, also lied to the public, FBI, and senate about those calls over sanctions. Then when Flynn admitted that he lied, she suddenly remembered and agreed. Why did she lie.

Following this clear line of collusion is puzzling for all the seemingly unnecessary lies. Trump lied about a deal with Russia when there was no need. Cohen lied, claiming loyalty to the president, about Trump's deal with Russia, when there was no need. Russian agents continually coordinated the lie: no dealings with Russia by Trump. Why?

The very lucrative Moscow Tower deal needed financing from the Putin-controlled bank VTB. But VTB could not lend the money under the rules of those sanctions. The sanctions needed to go for the deal to go through, managed by Cohen and Sater. Enter Flynn. Then Trump at a rally, prompted by a question from a soviet agent now in US custody, said sanctions should be lifted. This is all on video, BTW. On the same day news broke about Russian interference with the Election, Cohen refused to go to Russia for that deal and it was dropped. Then we have Stone, Prince, and Corsi meeting with or emailing Julian Assange about "dirt" on Clinton, which may prove collusion for the WH.
It starts with Flynn, Trump's National Security Ad... (show quote)


Why have you neglected to mention things like Hillary's private server and 60,000 govt e-mails. These e-mails showed up on a sex offenders computer. The fake FISA document which started a fake investigation. How about Hillary's uranium 1 deal where she sold nuclear stuff to the Russians. That's worse than collusion. How about the Clinton crime family and money laundering scheme which the Russians gave large donations and paid Bill a bunch of money for speaking while Hillary was still Sec of State. How about Benghazi where Americans actually died?! The list goes on but you guys are more concerned about Trump. I don't think Trump has killed anyone so far.

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Dec 2, 2018 07:31:07   #
cbpat1
 
rumitoid wrote:
It starts with Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor, and his aide, K T McFarland. There are a number of actors already involved in this intricate conspiracy, but Flynn is the best place to start. As the president's NSA, it would be a little odd but not wrong to talk to Russia about lifting sanctions. Almost part of his job. But he lied, saying he did not talk about sanctions with Russia, and was convicted on that falsehood. Why did he lie? His aide, totally intimate with operations, also lied to the public, FBI, and senate about those calls over sanctions. Then when Flynn admitted that he lied, she suddenly remembered and agreed. Why did she lie.

Following this clear line of collusion is puzzling for all the seemingly unnecessary lies. Trump lied about a deal with Russia when there was no need. Cohen lied, claiming loyalty to the president, about Trump's deal with Russia, when there was no need. Russian agents continually coordinated the lie: no dealings with Russia by Trump. Why?

The very lucrative Moscow Tower deal needed financing from the Putin-controlled bank VTB. But VTB could not lend the money under the rules of those sanctions. The sanctions needed to go for the deal to go through, managed by Cohen and Sater. Enter Flynn. Then Trump at a rally, prompted by a question from a soviet agent now in US custody, said sanctions should be lifted. This is all on video, BTW. On the same day news broke about Russian interference with the Election, Cohen refused to go to Russia for that deal and it was dropped. Then we have Stone, Prince, and Corsi meeting with or emailing Julian Assange about "dirt" on Clinton, which may prove collusion for the WH.
It starts with Flynn, Trump's National Security Ad... (show quote)


Try not to close your eyes that even if there was collusion, that collusion itself is not illegal.

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Dec 2, 2018 08:10:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
kankune wrote:
I'll tell u where the dirt is. That DIRTY corrupt Mewller and all his cronies!!


Yep; the dotts are all connected already;
Bob Mueller and crew;
AMERICA’S CORRUPTION CLUB Let’s get back on the trail……
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/americas-corruption-club-lets-follow-the-trail/

ALL DOTS CONNECTED…Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests … Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL…
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been impaneled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this is still not being exposed
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we had a soft coup attempt.

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Dec 2, 2018 13:41:25   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Just in case you actually do any research rumi,,,,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-03/exposed-naked-truth-about-robert-mueller

or you could go to fullspinzoo's post about Robert Mueller. or you could go to 'The Gulftainer Scandal. Project Pelican / Port Canaveral' is on youtube, or you could go to Dan Bongino's talk,

Everything you need to know about "The Plan"...………… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO3DSz6VU10

or you could go to..... nah, forget it. You really aren't interested in any truth, especially about Mueller or Trump....
Just in case you actually do any research rumi,,,,... (show quote)


you could go to..... nah, forget it. You really aren't interested in any truth, especially about Mueller or Trump....

True to his nature Truck.

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Dec 2, 2018 16:49:03   #
Unintended Consequences
 
Hogback wrote:
Why have you neglected to mention things like Hillary's private server and 60,000 govt e-mails. These e-mails showed up on a sex offenders computer. The fake FISA document which started a fake investigation. How about Hillary's uranium 1 deal where she sold nuclear stuff to the Russians. That's worse than collusion. How about the Clinton crime family and money laundering scheme which the Russians gave large donations and paid Bill a bunch of money for speaking while Hillary was still Sec of State. How about Benghazi where Americans actually died?! The list goes on but you guys are more concerned about Trump. I don't think Trump has killed anyone so far.
Why have you neglected to mention things like Hill... (show quote)


Hillary is in good company with others using private emails: Condoleesa Rice, Colin Powell, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner to name a few. Are we going to prosecute all of them? Then there's the case of Trump using an unsecured phone.
There is nothing fake about the Fisa warrant. The FBI was already looking at Carter Page in 2013. No matter who paid for the Steele Dossier, most of the information in it was provable, compiled by a former British spy with a stellar reputation.
Republicans have had their undies in a bundle for supposed crimes by the Clintons for years. They grilled Hillary for hours about Benghasi. Was the committee so stupid that they couldn't convict her of something or was there nothing to convict. And then why are we not investigating and blaming someone for the death of 4 soldiers in Nigeria? Surely Hillary must have had something to do with that.
Uranium 1 - Look it up. It's a gross misstatement to say she sold nuclear stuff. I am tired of looking up accurate reporting about these accusations you have made.

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Dec 2, 2018 16:59:25   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
Hillary is in good company with others using private emails: Condoleesa Rice, Colin Powell, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner to name a few. Are we going to prosecute all of them? Then there's the case of Trump using an unsecured phone.
There is nothing fake about the Fisa warrant. The FBI was already looking at Carter Page in 2013. No matter who paid for the Steele Dossier, most of the information in it was provable, compiled by a former British spy with a stellar reputation.
Republicans have had their undies in a bundle for supposed crimes by the Clintons for years. They grilled Hillary for hours about Benghasi. Was the committee so stupid that they couldn't convict her of something or was there nothing to convict. And then why are we not investigating and blaming someone for the death of 4 soldiers in Nigeria? Surely Hillary must have had something to do with that.
Uranium 1 - Look it up. It's a gross misstatement to say she sold nuclear stuff. I am tired of looking up accurate reporting about these accusations you have made.
Hillary is in good company with others using priva... (show quote)


But none of them destroyed them or lost 30,000 emails....Only dimwit like Killery could of done that...

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Dec 2, 2018 17:27:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Conspiring with a foreign government against the government and people of the United States is a crime and collusion is exactly that.
The Real Collusion Story

In a textbook example of denial and projection, Trump foes in and out of government wove a sinister yarn meant to take him down.

It's a long reading of facts. Probably not a good idea for an ignorant, snarling, pissed off, hateful lib prog to tackle it.

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Dec 2, 2018 19:35:40   #
Nickolai
 
kankune wrote:
I'll tell u where the dirt is. That DIRTY corrupt Mewller and all his cronies!!





Mueller is not dirty or corrupt that's what Trump wants you to believe but I suppose you could wish and hope for a miracle. Trump has been running a criminal enterprise since he managed to recover from his first bankruptcy in the early 90's and learned it could become a business model Burn every body while lining ones pockets with other peoples money especially Russian Oligarch money that's looking for a way out of Russia and laundered in western real estate

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Dec 2, 2018 19:55:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mueller is not dirty or corrupt that's what Trump wants you to believe but I suppose you could wish and hope for a miracle. Trump has been running a criminal enterprise since he managed to recover from his first bankruptcy in the early 90's and learned it could become a business model Burn every body while lining ones pockets with other peoples money especially Russian Oligarch money that's looking for a way out of Russia and laundered in western real estate
Yes, Mueller is dirty and corrupt. His past record speaks for itself. Moreover, his appointment as special counsel violated the Article II, Section 2 Appointments clause of the constitution and DOJ regulations. If Mueller was an honorable man with any sense of integrity and principles, he would have refused to accept on that basis. In addition, the mandate for this investigation was based solely on a counterintelligence agenda, it was not launched as a criminal investigation. Under our criminal statutes, an investigation can only begin if a crime has in fact been committed, it cannot proceed on merely non-evidential assumptions or suspicions that a crime occurred. It certainly does not authorize investigators to search for a crime then charge someone for committing it, and this is exactly what Mueller is doing.

Now, since you are such an expert on American law and our criminal code, suppose you define clearly what criminal enterprise Trump ran when he was private citizen. You will need to clarify the crimes and cite the specific criminal codes.

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Dec 2, 2018 20:41:57   #
Nickolai
 
proud republican wrote:






Un -reliable sources of information

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