Seth

It's pretty simple, really. If you are a U.S. citizen of voting age, you register to vote. Then you show up to vote, WITH valid ID to prove you are who you say you are, and you vote.

moldyoldy

The states with a history of voter suppression had to get any changes approved by the court. That needs to be restored.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Isn't that a good thing?

kemmer

States known for discriminatory practices were required to get permission from Congress before changing ANY voting procedures. The SCOTUS said "discrimination ws a thing of the past" and cancelled that rule. Within 24 hours, states across the South instituted "new" voting rules, which for all intents and purposes, guaranteed all Republicans would stay in office or be easily re-elected.

Seth

The only tangible shenanigans I've encountered where voting is concerned occurred in Charlotte, NC when I lived there, and that was gerrymandering. From what I understand, that practice has since, meaning over the last decade, run into a lot of difficulty in federal courts.

It seems that whichever party is dominant in a given state gets to set the boundaries of their voting districts.

Otherwise, it's difficult to imagine how one could suppress voters at this point in history, since an aggressively p.o.'d suppressee, given today's climate could sue the state and win pretty easily.

I don't subscribe to the concept of minorities having a harder time obtaining valid ID, because a state ID or a driver's license aren't that expensive and one or the other is required to be carried in most places these days.

In fact, where the poor are concerned,I can't even believe that they would issue food stamps or welfare to someone unless they presented ID and a Social Security card when they applied.

moldyoldy

The courts refused to do anything about voter suppression because it is too close to election day, in Kansas and Montana.
Kobach and Kemp control the voting in their states while running for governor, Both need to be locked up for the crap they pull.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Why is it you Progressives are so prone to lock others up first, without a trial next, before proven guilty? Remember what you just did to Kavanaugh? It's a legitimate matter of concern if you were ever regain complete power again. I wouldn't, however, compare you to the Nazis. No, with your new ideology you're more closely associated with the old USSR. You might consider North Dakota a suitable location to build your Gulags as it is reminiscent of Siberia in the winter. Furthermore, they grow great potatoes there for your vodka stills. Just thinking out loud.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Mike, you embarrase yourself.. the insults and obstruction of President Obama began before he was even sworn in..

they have never ended to this day and on this forum..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

It is very simple Seth, if the republicans did not think it would repress voters who would favor democrats, they would not pass these obstruction laws..

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/339404-its-time-to-restore-full-power-to-the-voting-rights-act
Today marks the fourth anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Shelby County, Alabama v. Holder, a devastating ruling that immobilized a part of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (VRA) that was one of the most effective tools for protecting voters and strengthening our political process.

As a result, far too many state and local jurisdictions have unabashedly considered and passed racially discriminatory voting laws; wasted millions of dollars defending them; and cost millions of disproportionately black and Latino Americans their most basic right in our democracy: The right to vote.

For nearly 50 years, Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act required jurisdictions with the worst histories of voter discrimination – mostly, but not exclusively in the South — to notify the federal government of every proposed voting change and get its approval before implementing those changes, a process known as “preclearance.”

The law used a formula set forth in Section 4(b) to determine which jurisdictions are required to secure pre-clearance. It was this formula that the Supreme Court struck down in Shelby County, leaving Section 5 and its pre-clearance requirement intact but dormant.

Without this transparency and scrutiny, states and local jurisdictions have directed their time, energy, and resources toward passing and defending racially discriminatory voting laws.


The day after the Shelby County opinion, for instance, North Carolina’s state legislature moved forward with House Bill 589, which required all voters to have limited forms of identification, eliminated same-day voter registration, and cut in half the early voting period — changes that an appellate court said “target African-American voters with almost surgical precision.”

Texas was even swifter.

Within two hours of the Shelby County decision, the state announced its intention to implement the most restrictive photo ID law in the nation, which Section 5 had previously blocked. After four years of litigation and five rulings by five different courts that the law has a discriminatory effect — potentially disenfranchising 600,000 registered voters – civil rights advocates are still fighting the law.

moldyoldy

Because the GOP does their crimes in plain view because they know that other rightys will not call them out.

boofhead

There you go with your political talking points, trying to belittle someone who has a different opinion instead of discussing the facts.

I am not afraid of these people, I don't live in fear of them. I do fear the Liberals because they are trying their best to destroy this country, but it is not a fear that disables me or prevents me from fighting back against their plans. I have said, and I say again, that allowing these caravan people in is illegal, because there are definite laws associated with immigration or asylum and those laws are not being followed because the Liberals prevent it by the use of emotive language, lies and political pressure. I had to know the law in order to migrate here, and I know what I am talking about. I stand with my hand on my heart at least twice a month to publicly recite the pledge of allegiance. When was the last time (if ever) that you have done the same?

I doubt that you have taken the time to study it but are happy to take the talking points of the liberal press/tv on which to form your opinions. If you want to disagree with me, how about doing so on the basis of the law? Explain to me why legal immigrants are held to a certain standard whereas illegal aliens are given not only a pass but also assistance and financial support? Where is the justice? The level playing field? Is it because someone who enters legally is more able to support himself, is more likely to take responsibility for himself and his family and is less likely to vote Democrat? Or do you have a different explanation?

Truly, I am just trying to understand the way Liberals think and maybe find out why they have so much hate in their souls. This country will not be defeated by an external enemy but from within and I can easily see who that enemy is but I don't understand why there are so many of them or why they so passionately want to destroy the USA . The caravan is only a symptom of the greater disease (liberalism) that affects this country and it is that disease that will kill it.

Seth

There's a question of degree that Democrats ignore. You folks can do ten extreme things and it's no problem, nothing to see here, but a conservative can commit one small infraction and that becomes the issue of the century.

"Yeah, well remember that time...?"

Nothing the Republicans did during the Obama Administration comes close to the amount of obstruction we're seeing now.

Fortunately, since Trump has called Americans' attention to just how undependable the MSM is, people have been getting wise to who's doing what.

Let's see who's smiling the most 4 days from now...

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Your memory is failing. Obama was attacked, most for legitimate cause fundamentally changing America, but nothing comparable to Trump. Not even close. You might believe them comparable but that's because Progressives lack balance. What you leftist have wrought will now be the "new normal" for future presidents and legislators.

moldyoldy

Liberals do think, repugs, not so much. There may be some help for refugees but not for illegal immigrants. Two different classes.

Seth

What I have a problem with is this fixation with "minorities aren't as able to obtain ID as the rest of us" thing. That in itself is pretty racist.

Why do you guys think that blacks and Latinos are any less able to go to the DMV or use a computer? If somebody's eligible to vote he or she is eligible to obtain ID, and I should think naturalization documents would do just as well as a birth certificate

So what's with the ID thing?