Stupid move by a stupid orange fool (Page 3): NEVER EAT TURKEY (OR CHICKEN OR SOY) BACON.

kemmer

permafrost wrote:

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You did not read it did you>>>....

NEVER EAT TURKEY (OR CHICKEN OR SOY) BACON.

boofhead

permafrost wrote:

"get through"..... br br What do you se... (show quote)

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving a free pass to people who did not have to go through the process I went through. I did find the process onerous and it cost me a lot of money and years of my time but it was for a Green Card and later Citizenship that I am proud to have. I had restrictions such as being able to support myself or have a sponsor who could do that for me. At present I am a sponsor for one of my kid's wife who is not a US citizen and if she needs it I am on the hook for fully supporting her. Point is it was not easy, is not free but it is worth it.

Now you want to allow a bunch of crazies (see the videos) whom you know NOTHING about and are NOT vetted or checked and have no restrictions applied, to have residence and citizenship that they have not earned or applied for or deserve. By lying about their true circumstances. By intimidation. And by the support that the brain-dead liberals give them.

Every one of these deadbeats (and there may be some deserving individuals among them but you have no way to identify them) can then bring an unlimited number of "relatives" with them and will be able to claim an unlimited number of "relatives" they support back in Syria or Venezuela on their taxes (if they pay any) and ALL of them will be able to receive benefits.

And guess who pays for all this? The benefits may come out of taxes but the costs of administrating the entry of these illegals comes out of a general fund for immigration that is paid by fees from, guess who? LEGAL immigrants. Legal immigrants who then go to the end of the line while these criminals are given priority!

I can't tell you how mad it makes me and how disappointed I am that this country allows this scam to continue. I am not surprised that it is supported by the Useful Idiots but I am surprised that there are so many of those who were born here and by their actions show that they are totally ignorant of the laws and customs of the USA and seem to be driven by a hatred of their homeland, willing to see it go down in flames rather than open their eyes and minds to see the truth. It should not be a partisan issue, but one of common sense and an ability to look forward to see the risks and benefits of having open borders and no laws.

You may not value this country and what it stands for, and you may be happy to give it away and to see it change to a hell-hole (which it will if this policy is not controlled) but I AM NOT and I will fight against it to my last breath because I am a patriot. Unlike you I wanted to be a citizen of this country and I earned that right and paid for it. Maybe that makes me protective and a little excited but I would not be proud to be here otherwise.

kemmer

boofhead wrote:

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving ... (show quote)

You are aware that Trump is against chain migration?
Except for Melania’s parents, of course.

boofhead

kemmer wrote:

You are aware that Trump is against chain migration?
Except for Melania’s parents, of course.

What the crap has that got to do with what I said? You can't get past politics, can you?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

boofhead wrote:

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving a free pass to people who did not have to go through the process I went through. I did find the process onerous and it cost me a lot of money and years of my time but it was for a Green Card and later Citizenship that I am proud to have. I had restrictions such as being able to support myself or have a sponsor who could do that for me. At present I am a sponsor for one of my kid's wife who is not a US citizen and if she needs it I am on the hook for fully supporting her. Point is it was not easy, is not free but it is worth it.

Now you want to allow a bunch of crazies (see the videos) whom you know NOTHING about and are NOT vetted or checked and have no restrictions applied, to have residence and citizenship that they have not earned or applied for or deserve. By lying about their true circumstances. By intimidation. And by the support that the brain-dead liberals give them.

Every one of these deadbeats (and there may be some deserving individuals among them but you have no way to identify them) can then bring an unlimited number of "relatives" with them and will be able to claim an unlimited number of "relatives" they support back in Syria or Venezuela on their taxes (if they pay any) and ALL of them will be able to receive benefits.

And guess who pays for all this? The benefits may come out of taxes but the costs of administrating the entry of these illegals comes out of a general fund for immigration that is paid by fees from, guess who? LEGAL immigrants. Legal immigrants who then go to the end of the line while these criminals are given priority!

I can't tell you how mad it makes me and how disappointed I am that this country allows this scam to continue. I am not surprised that it is supported by the Useful Idiots but I am surprised that there are so many of those who were born here and by their actions show that they are totally ignorant of the laws and customs of the USA and seem to be driven by a hatred of their homeland, willing to see it go down in flames rather than open their eyes and minds to see the truth. It should not be a partisan issue, but one of common sense and an ability to look forward to see the risks and benefits of having open borders and no laws.

You may not value this country and what it stands for, and you may be happy to give it away and to see it change to a hell-hole (which it will if this policy is not controlled) but I AM NOT and I will fight against it to my last breath because I am a patriot. Unlike you I wanted to be a citizen of this country and I earned that right and paid for it. Maybe that makes me protective and a little excited but I would not be proud to be here otherwise.

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving ... (show quote)

boof, you have got this all wrong.. I have not seen anyone saying this convoy or anyone in it should be admitted to this nation without following our laws..

Most of us are simply pointing out that they are far from any sort of "army" and in no way are they capable of a "invasion" that is all BS promoted by the orange ding bat to move the debate from all his misdeeds to
anything else. anything at all..

We have a family friend who is an immigrant, it took her 15 years to become a citizen. it was such a great thing for her, she bubbled about it for weeks..

Now, being here for at least 20 years, she still will remark to my wife how wonderful the food stores are.. she loves food shopping.. food everywhere, she loves that more than she can tell us..

kemmer

boofhead wrote:

What the crap has that got to do with what I said? You can't get past politics, can you?

Umm... Bringing your kid’s non citizen wife here is chain migration.

boofhead

permafrost wrote:

boof, you have got this all wrong.. I have not see... (show quote)

Something has value until it is free. Giving anyone free entry to the USA to people like those in these "caravans" as you support makes the efforts of people like me and your family friend and what they achieved valueless.

If these people did not follow the process required for immigration but are given entry based on their presence at the border, together with the implied and actual violence and threats, with no background checks, medical, family connections or ability to support themselves, or provide a skillset that has value, they ARE an invasion.

How about putting a price on a movie ticket of $100, you pay that and go in to find all the seats filled by people who paid nothing, and they spend the time talking and playing so you cannot even enjoy the movie you paid so much for? And in addition they throw popcorn at you and your kids, get drunk and steal the tires off you car while you are inside the movie theater! And in the end, what becomes of that movie theater? Will you go back? Will you let your kids go? For movie theater, substitute USA and you will get my drift.

And citizenship is not just free food. It is an obligation as well as an achievement and has a cost in dedication, obligation, support and assistance. It is not sitting around on benefits as is the aim of so many of those you want to see come in to this country for free. If you don't earn it you will not value it. I think you have proved my point already.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

boofhead wrote:

Something has value until it is free. Giving anyo... (show quote)

None of these people will get special treatment only the evil trump says that..

the vast majority of these will be declined and go home. Or at least elsewhere..

maybe 15% will get serous consideration..

boofhead

[quote=permafrost]None of these people will get special treatment only the evil trump says that..

the vast majority of these will be declined and go home. Or at least elsewhere..

maybe 15% will get serous consideration..[/quo

The ones who don't get in will move along the border a little ways and sneak in where they will stay in Sanctuary Cities run by fellow Liberals and live off the books. Entering using criminal behavior and continuing using criminal behavior then dropping a kid who will illegally be considered an Anchor Baby meanwhile illegally claiming entitlements using a fake SS number, DL, etc, wallowing in it without bothering to assimilate or become a true American, bringing his/her filth with him/her trying to change this country into the hell-hole they left behind, all thanks to the Useful Idiots who either know no better or are willingly supporting the destruction, one illegal at a time, of this once-great nation.

Enjoy it while you have it. Hope you and yours will be happy when it all comes down. Take a look at San Francisco for a preview.

Carol Kelly

permafrost wrote:

troops to the border because of civilians fleeing gangs in central America..

everything about this silly tactic is only to drive his core up the wall..

Per CNN https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/trump-troops-border-criticisms/index.html

Cost and readiness concerns
Fischer touched on concerns about troop readiness, saying that once these troops are at the border, "they're not going to be training, they're not going to be preparing for the fights that could be on the horizon from legitimate threats."
Instead, Fischer said, these troops will be tasked with supporting border officials in a way that means "we're going to spend a tremendous amount of money and a tremendous amount of resources to have these troops act as errand runners, act as go-fers, act as camouflage-wearing Uber drivers for [homeland security] and border patrol personnel."
"This is taking away from mission readiness and this is Donald Trump playing politics with our national security," Fischer said.
Donald Trump's closing campaign message: Be afraid
Donald Trump's closing campaign message: Be afraid
The former military officer, who logged two decades of experience as an army officer before moving on to become a strategist, said the troops were being sent to "do a mission that could ... be done by another entity" such as the National Guard.
Dave McGinnis, a former Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense, agreed.
"The big problem that I and many former and active military guys have with this thing is that the Posse Comitatus [law] forbids the army from enforcing domestic laws unless there's no other choice and Trump has lots of choices," McGinnis said.
The President could use federal law enforcement officers such as the US Marshals, or the Army and National Guard. There's also Immigration and Customs Enforcement, McGinnis notes. "We already have an organization that enforces that civil law. It's called ICE."
In 2010, President Obama sent 1,200 National Guard troops to boost security at the border but those levels pale in comparison to number of active duty troops being sent by Trump.
The former official pointed out that US laws prohibit the military from detaining people, "so it's not like we're sending down an operational force, it's just people in a largely supportive role. That's why I say it's a stunt, so [Trump] can say, yeah, we're sending the military down to the border."
McGinnis said Trump's move also sets a precedent. "If Congress allows him to do this, you're pushing the envelope on using the military for things this country has never, ever permitted," he said.

troops to the border because of civilians fleeing ... (show quote)

No one referred to Obama as a stupid black fool. Have some respect for the presidency.

Hadenough

padremike wrote:

You're concerned with the cost of sending the mili... (show quote)

Stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, NOW!

kemmer

Carol Kelly wrote:

No one referred to Obama as a stupid black fool. Have some respect for the presidency.

Some on this very website have used—and continue to use—considerably worse terms for Obama than “stupid black fool”.

Hadenough

boofhead wrote:

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving a free pass to people who did not have to go through the process I went through. I did find the process onerous and it cost me a lot of money and years of my time but it was for a Green Card and later Citizenship that I am proud to have. I had restrictions such as being able to support myself or have a sponsor who could do that for me. At present I am a sponsor for one of my kid's wife who is not a US citizen and if she needs it I am on the hook for fully supporting her. Point is it was not easy, is not free but it is worth it.

Now you want to allow a bunch of crazies (see the videos) whom you know NOTHING about and are NOT vetted or checked and have no restrictions applied, to have residence and citizenship that they have not earned or applied for or deserve. By lying about their true circumstances. By intimidation. And by the support that the brain-dead liberals give them.

Every one of these deadbeats (and there may be some deserving individuals among them but you have no way to identify them) can then bring an unlimited number of "relatives" with them and will be able to claim an unlimited number of "relatives" they support back in Syria or Venezuela on their taxes (if they pay any) and ALL of them will be able to receive benefits.

And guess who pays for all this? The benefits may come out of taxes but the costs of administrating the entry of these illegals comes out of a general fund for immigration that is paid by fees from, guess who? LEGAL immigrants. Legal immigrants who then go to the end of the line while these criminals are given priority!

I can't tell you how mad it makes me and how disappointed I am that this country allows this scam to continue. I am not surprised that it is supported by the Useful Idiots but I am surprised that there are so many of those who were born here and by their actions show that they are totally ignorant of the laws and customs of the USA and seem to be driven by a hatred of their homeland, willing to see it go down in flames rather than open their eyes and minds to see the truth. It should not be a partisan issue, but one of common sense and an ability to look forward to see the risks and benefits of having open borders and no laws.

You may not value this country and what it stands for, and you may be happy to give it away and to see it change to a hell-hole (which it will if this policy is not controlled) but I AM NOT and I will fight against it to my last breath because I am a patriot. Unlike you I wanted to be a citizen of this country and I earned that right and paid for it. Maybe that makes me protective and a little excited but I would not be proud to be here otherwise.

I am a legal immigrant. I hate and oppose giving ... (show quote)

Well said and welcome!
MAGA

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

[quote=boofhead][quote=permafrost]None of these people will get special treatment only the evil trump says that..

the vast majority of these will be declined and go home. Or at least elsewhere..

maybe 15% will get serous consideration..[/quo

The ones who don't get in will move along the border a little ways and sneak in where they will stay in Sanctuary Cities run by fellow Liberals and live off the books. Entering using criminal behavior and continuing using criminal behavior then dropping a kid who will illegally be considered an Anchor Baby meanwhile illegally claiming entitlements using a fake SS number, DL, etc, wallowing in it without bothering to assimilate or become a true American, bringing his/her filth with him/her trying to change this country into the hell-hole they left behind, all thanks to the Useful Idiots who either know no better or are willingly supporting the destruction, one illegal at a time, of this once-great nation.

Enjoy it while you have it. Hope you and yours will be happy when it all comes down. Take a look at San Francisco for a preview.[/quote]

You have let trump frighten you.. Stop that and think for yourself.. If you dont, it will cost your kids for all their lives..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Carol Kelly wrote:

No one referred to Obama as a stupid black fool. Have some respect for the presidency.

President Obama was insulted and obstructed more than any president in history..