Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Airforceone

What is it with you people The White House Idiot threaten the President of Honduras to cut aid to his country and the Honduras President floats a conspiracy theory that Venezuela is funding the caravan.
But Venezuela president says that both Trump and Pence are are crazy.

So who do the right wing idiots believe the president that is being threatened to loose US aid. And then you say you would support this person for president. That’s exactly the reason why we ended up with a narcissistic Autocrat in the White House.

First it was Soros that rumor went away then it was wealthy democrats out of California, now it’s Venezuela. What the hell is it with you people. These are Men women and Children seeking asylum in this country. It’s 5000 people and most are applying in Mexico.

First it was MS-13 that stupid theory was debunked easily. Then is was Middle East terriers that comment was stupi why would someone fly 3000 miles join a caravan and spend 3 months walking 2000 miles, so that stupid theory went away. Now we got the stupid disease theory that they all have TB.

What the stupid in this country don’t understand that this is a yearly event and the US for 12 years has rejected 75% of these people so if you add up the number of refugees that actually get in this country is between 500 to a thousand.

So the Real Estate freak in the White House is sending the military to manage this caravan. That will cost millions and there not needed. Just a manufactured crisis by a freak President that is nothing but a real estate agent that cheats on his wife goes bankrupt 5 times, runs Hitler style rallies.

Now it’s military on the border, now he thinks he can eliminate birthright citizenship which is ridiculous. His stupid comment is these people are born in this country and receive benifits for 85 years. But that freak never told you these citizens pay taxes and are entitled to benefits. Makes it sound to his idiot base they get these benifits free. But stupid is the norm for the Trump base.

Manufactured crisis by this idiot to get votes. GD the number of people that will actually get into this country would not even fill a small high school. (SO LETS SPEND MILLIONS TO SEND THE MILITARY HE SOUNDS FOOLISH IF ANY OF HIS IGNORANT BASE BOTHERED TO USE A LITTLE COMMON SENSE.

What the heck is wrong with you people don’t you realize Trump creates this BS fires up the GD ignorant southern base to hide his big prize the wealth he is getting through scamming the American people. The more extreme BS that comes out of that freak the more the racist love it.

Do some GD reseach and understand how many illegals actually get into this country and how they accomplish it. I can’t believe the lunatic right wing and the garbage they believe.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

how do you right wingers get the idea that Democrats want "open borders"???

Because you read in a fish wrap or were told the lie via right wing hate media??

Also, what is your idea of "open borders"?

Carol Kelly

You are living in a different world.

Carol Kelly

moldyoldy

Mexico has taken in most, and some gave up. Trump will claim that he scared them away.

The caravan
The caravan is a Central American migrant refugee group being helped by Pueblo Sin Fronteras, an organization that has provided humanitarian aid "to migrants and refugees on the move" for about 15 years, according to its website.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

Great post! Thanks.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

You sound just as looney as the guy that mailed the fake bombs

moldyoldy

The ‘crisis’ of the migrant caravan is one of misperception




Antonio De Loera-Brust
October 30, 2018
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Central American migrants reach the shore on the Mexican side of the Suchiate River after wading across from Guatemala on Oct. 20. Thousands of migrants from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala are making their way north through Mexico. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)
The 3,500 or so unarmed men, women and children seeking asylum in a country of 350 million represents as much a threat to the United States of America as a glass of water is to the ocean. Nevertheless, the U.S. media has been full of scare stories about the “caravan” of Central American migrants making the dangerous trek north through Mexico. News outlets have obsessively covered the caravan like an approaching hurricane.
For xenophobes, the caravan has created the perfect visuals to trigger white demographic anxiety: young brown people headed north. Images of the caravan are featured prominently in many campaign ads for Republican candidates in this year’s midterm elections. For some, it looked to be the perfect “October surprise.”
The tragic irony of this story is the local activists who initially organized the caravan sought to raise awareness about the abuses faced by Central American migrants. But the likely outcome is a harder journey north than ever before. President Trump is reportedly preparing a travel-ban style executive order to close the border to all Central American asylum seekers, which would leave them with no legal way to seek entry.

The caravan has created the perfect visuals to trigger white demographic anxiety: young brown people headed north.
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Whatever “crisis” has been provoked by the caravan is a one of perceptions. The border is secured. Gone are the days when all one had to do was sprint from Tijuana to San Diego when the Border Patrol wasn’t looking. Today’s migrants instead actively look for the nearest Border Patrol officer to turn themselves in and ask for asylum, which is (for now) perfectly legal to do.
Instead, the real threat to the United States is the very fear and hate the caravan story has fomented. According to his posts on social media, the man who attacked and killed 11 people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh believed that Jews were the ones behind the migrant caravan. The president’s habit of amplifying and spreading racially charged conspiracy theories about Central American migrants and the caravan cannot be ignored as a possible factor in the massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue.

Much of the footage of the caravan presents the migrants as an indistinguishable mass, with the camera at a far distance.
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Yet the incessant media coverage of the caravan has played into Mr. Trump’s hands and may also be fueling racial violence. Words like “army” have been used even in mainstream, reputable news outlets to describe unarmed, desperate families seeking safety or opportunity. Is it any wonder that the most fearful in the United States may feel compelled to lash out? Even well-meaning pundits defensively point out how far the migrants remain from the United States, implicitly conceding that the best Latino is a faraway Latino.
Even more powerful than the words have been the images. Much of the footage of the caravan, whether on CNN, Fox or MSNBC, presents the migrants as an indistinguishable mass, with the camera at a distance. The frame is always full of people; but each of them are small; the details of their faces lost within a single pixel. Meanwhile, the talking heads and expert panelists get close-ups, hair and makeup. They are allowed to be individuals; we always know their names.
It is not that the media should avoid images of the migrants’ journey. But there can be better, more humanizing footage. The photographers who are with them should get close. Show their faces; show their eyes; make the viewer recognize an individual. If the only footage of migrants available as background for cable news had close-up faces of men, women and children, the immigration debate in this country might be a little different.

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Was it naïve to think increased focus on migration from Central America might spur more sympathy for the migrants themselves? Not if the media in the United States were more responsible and more diverse than it is. For now, I fear immigrant advocates must confront the truth that many in the undocumented community have long understood: Deer should not call attention to themselves when surrounded by wolves.
And yet I find even the distant images of migrants beautiful. I see neither weak victims nor threatening invaders. I see brave people, on an exodus across half a continent of mountains, jungles and deserts. In these journeys I see reflections of my own ancestors. I see the struggles they went through to get here. I see the pursuit of happiness. Images of the caravan evoke the words of Walt Whitman, in his ode to the pioneers: “Come my tan-faced children.... All the past we leave behind, we debouch upon a newer mightier world, varied world, fresh and strong the world we seize.”
I am holding out hope that we might still somehow recognize the best of ourselves in the migrants heading toward the United States. If we did, our nation might rediscover some of that courage, decency and determination to seek better lives that we ourselves lost somewhere along the way.
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/10/30/crisis-migrant-caravan-one-misperception

Noraa Loc: Kansas

I am sorry but we can not allow them to just storm the border. They must apply to come in legally. If we just let them come in what is to stop an uninterrupted flood of refugees from all over the world storming our borders? No country in the world just gives a pass and says come on in even if you are doing it illegally, have not been vetted, have no skills or education, no money and just want to have your babies here so they can become instant citizens of the U.S.?

moldyoldy

This has been happening for 15 years, very few get asylum. They do not storm the border, they turn themselves in to apply for asylum. Trump has reduced the number of judges to handle the asylum seekers, so some cross illegally and automatically lose their chance at asylum.

Noraa Loc: Kansas

You still didn't answer my questions and 7000 people have not been trying for 15 years.

moldyoldy

The highest count was 4000, that is down to 1500 now. What is your question?

Homestead

BOOM! Honduran Caravan CAUGHT Getting PAID To INVADE United States - GOP Rep Sounds the Alarm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6lOnmGXNP0

TRUMP VINDICATED: As Migrant Caravan of Military-Aged Males Marches towards U.S.A., Arrests Show Many May Be ISIS Terrorists
Thousands of Honduran immigrants tore through the Guatemalan border and stormed into Mexico on Friday. The majority of the migrants are military-aged men.

Even worse, the Guatemalan President has announced that his country apprehended close to 100 ISIS terrorists.
http://www.americanjournalreview.com/ip/

MS-13 Gang Members Amongst ‘Migrant Caravan’
According to award winning reporter Sarah Carter, there are a number of MS-13 gang members amongst the 7,000+ migrant caravan heading towards the United States.

“Guatemalan intelligence discovered people from India, Bangladesh, Africa had also joined in with the caravan -I bumped into a number of young MS 13 gang members,” tweeted Carter, who is a Fox News contributor.
According to reports, there is now a second migrant caravan comprising of 1,000 people that crossed from Honduras into Guatemala on Sunday night.

Pictures show that the caravan is “mostly young men,” mirroring a Fox News report that said around 80 per cent of the first migrant caravan was comprised of men under the age of 35.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ms-13-gang-members-amongst-migrant-caravan.html

Gang Members, Criminals Are Part of Migrant Caravan, Officials Confirm
By Zack Stieber October 24, 2018

Gang members and criminals are part of the migrant caravan currently in Mexico and heading north to the United States, U.S. officials said.

Tyler Houlton, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) press secretary, said in a statement on Oct. 23 that “DHS can confirm that there are individuals within the caravan who are gang members or have significant criminal histories.”
http://www.ntd.tv/2018/10/24/gang-members-criminals-are-part-of-migrant-caravan-officials-confirm/

MS-13 Gang Member Arrested Traveling With Migrant Caravan From Central America to U.S.
http://www.newsweek.com/ms13-member-arrested-traveling-migrant-caravan-central-america-us-884193

Man Traveling in Illegal Caravan Confirms Trump's Claim: Of Course There Are Criminals Here
"Criminals is everywhere. Okay. There's criminals in here. I mean, there is. It's just not that many," Nixon Hernandez, an illegal alien from Honduras, told Fox News.
Violent transnational crime organizations like MS-13 have used the never ending illegal immigration crisis in the past to smuggle gang members. The organization has also used detention centers to recruit unaccompanied minors into the gang.
The Red Cross has set up phone banks inside the processing center so unaccompanied minors can make phone calls to family members inside the United States and back home in Central America. According to sources, those phones are also being used by MS-13 members to communicate with gang members already in the United States and operating in cities like Atlanta, New York and Chicago. Further, many teenaged males inside the facility have approached Border Patrol agents and have said gang members have tried to recruit them from shared cells.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/10/23/man-traveling-in-the-caravan-confirms-trumps-claim-of-course-there-are-criminals-here-n2531141