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Oct 1, 2018 11:11:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
PeterS wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was truthful. Kavanaugh is a partisan hack and will do anything conservatives want him to do. This is the most important Supreme Court nomination in their lifetimes...

It's hard to believe he was being truthful because any conversation about Mueller's investigation should have been significant enough for him to remember (unless he's an idiot) I find it far more likely that he wanted to confer with his advisors before giving a false answer. I tend to agree with you Peter... I think all the lame excuses and distractions put up by conservatives is more about downplaying the significance of Kavanagh's controversies for the sake of just getting a hard-right conservative on the bench.

We can already see how Republicans are circumventing the checks and balances put in place by the Constitution. When a law is needed to ensure justice, Republican law-makers sit on their hands while conservative judges say it's not their job to legislate. This is how companies have been allowed to force their employees into arbitration agreements which effectively removes the workers rights provided by the government.

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Oct 1, 2018 11:14:19   #
debeda
 
straightUp wrote:
Where did I say Trump's efforts is destroying the republic? Look, you can't expect to challenge anyone's logic if you're going to resort to fallacy. What I said (and it wasn't on this thread) is that Trump's efforts are an attack on the republic, that doesn't necessarily mean the attack is having any effect.

The other thing to realize is that I am very specific with my language. So when I refer to our republic, I am not referring to data-spewing systems like our economy; I am referring specifically to the rules and the structure of what makes our government a representative republic.

Also, since I'm already lecturing you anyway... "empirical" and "proven" are essentially the same thing. Maybe you meant to say "proven or anecdotal"?
Where did I say Trump's efforts is destroying the ... (show quote)


Empirical means "based on observation". Proven is something that has gone through the 6 steps of scientific method and is thought to be scientific fact. You know, it's really awesome that you have such anextremely high opinion of yourself and think you're so brilliant and always right.

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Oct 1, 2018 11:16:20   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
straightUp wrote:
Seriously? The Senate has been under Republican control since 2017 which is when Harris took office, so that seems like a stupid question to me. And how exactly is that related to her role in the confirmation hearings anyway? It seems to me that you're inability to dispute her effectiveness on the committee is leaving you grasping at straws.


Harris is just like the baboon assed face Waters..a no account politician who hasn't done anything substantive for her constituents.. 'Just saying'..

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Oct 1, 2018 11:36:08   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
debeda wrote:
Empirical means "based on observation". Proven is something that has gone through the 6 steps of scientific method and is thought to be scientific fact.

And here's yet another example of baseless blabber... You just toss out "scientific method" like it's a magic phrase that's supposed to be the end-all. I'll put aside the fact that "scientific method" only applies to scientific theories and explain what you're missing.

Here are the "six steps" of the scientific method...

Step 1: Ask a question. (dugh)
Step 2: Do background research. (to prepare for step 3)
Step 3: Construct a hypothesis. (to prepare for step 4)
Step 4: Test your hypothesis by doing an experiment. (an experiment provides a way to OBSERVE a result)
Step 5: Analyze the data and draw a conclusion. (in other words, OBSERVE the results and make your conclusions from that OBSERVATION)
Step 6: Share your results.

So, if your bent on using the scientific method to prove something, you are still relying on observations, which makes it... (that's right), EMPIRICAL.

debeda wrote:

You know, it's really awesome that you have such anextremely high opinion of yourself and think you're so brilliant and always right.

That's all on you debeda. I have NEVER claimed to be a brilliant person. You just keep giving me opportunities to prove you wrong. Maybe that says more about you than it does about me.

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Oct 1, 2018 11:44:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
byronglimish wrote:
Harris is just like the baboon assed face Waters..a no account politician who hasn't done anything substantive for her constituents.. 'Just saying'..

OK... so you're proving yourself to be a racist who thinks passing laws is the only way a Senator can so anything substantial... Got it.

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Oct 1, 2018 11:45:41   #
debeda
 
straightUp wrote:
That's all on you debeda, I have NEVER claimed to be a brilliant person, you just keep giving me opportunities to prove you wrong. Maybe that says more about you than it does about me.


Most people that pontificate and bloviate have a very high opinion of themselves. I gave an opinion, you "corrected" me. I simply corrected your correction. And you go on, and on, and on and on........

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Oct 1, 2018 12:03:23   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
debeda wrote:
Most people that pontificate and bloviate have a very high opinion of themselves.

That sounds like a stereotype to me.

debeda wrote:

I gave an opinion, you "corrected" me.

I wasn't trying to correct your opinion... I was simply pointing out the redundancy of your language. I even provided a suggestion that I thought would have better represented what you were trying to say. Call it constructive criticism.

debeda wrote:

I simply corrected your correction. And you go on, and on, and on and on........

You weren't "correcting" anything debeda... You were tenaciously arguing my correction with more incorrect assumptions, which I clearly illustrated. Look, forget I said anything OK?

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Oct 1, 2018 12:09:28   #
debeda
 
straightUp wrote:
You weren't "correcting" anything debeda... You were tenaciously arguing my correction with more incorrect assumptions, which I clearly illustrated. Look, forget I said anything OK?


Lolololololololhahahahahaha get a dictionary or a high school science book. Good luck to you.

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Oct 1, 2018 19:09:12   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was truthful. Kavanaugh is a partisan hack and will do anything conservatives want him to do. This is the most important Supreme Court nomination in their lifetimes...


" It doesn't matter if he was truthful. "

Finally the truth is out. Truth and facts do not matter. It does not matter if Kavanaugh is innocent.

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Oct 1, 2018 21:12:10   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
straightUp wrote:
Why do you insist on playing the fool? I already explained why the answer *should* have been very easy to answer. Harris wasn't asking about ANY conversation... She was asking specifically about conversations he may have had about Mueller and his investigations. And considering Kavanaugh's position on the U.S. Court of Appeals, ANY such conversation SHOULD have been regarded with utmost care... at least enough to remember who he spoke with and why.

His delayed answer either proves he can't be trusted with confidence (because he can't remember who he had critical conversations with) or that he was uncomfortable with telling the truth, which again proves he can't be trusted. Harris nailed him. She knows it... He knows it... and the entire committee knows it. The question now is whether enough senators are willing to dismiss it.
Why do you insist on playing the fool? I already e... (show quote)

His delayed answer proves he realizes this whole charade is a witch hunt and that Democrats will take any innocent statement and turn it into a circus.
If YOU thought any statement you made would be deliberately misconstrued in a partisan witch hunt, you would not be as forthcoming as YOU seem to think one should be.
Considering your take on Kavenaugh's statements, you appear to be quite well versed in sophistry and obfuscation.

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Oct 1, 2018 21:20:46   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
straightUp wrote:
Seriously? The Senate has been under Republican control since 2017 which is when Harris took office, so that seems like a stupid question to me. And how exactly is that related to her role in the confirmation hearings anyway? It seems to me that you're inability to dispute her effectiveness on the committee is leaving you grasping at straws.


Harris' "effectiveness" lies solely in her insistence on asking either rhetorical questions or those of the "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" variety.

Questions that have obvious answers, or questions that leave the person being questioned shown in a bad light no matter whether he answers yes or no.
Like every other Liberal on here, you are cherry picking your answers. This is a witch hunt. A woman whose own witnesses deny her story. Another who admits to being drunk. Another who has retracted her statements when her own history of unwanted sexual advances became known.
A ranking member who dishonestly sat on the accusatory letter until the eleventh hour in an attempt to spring a "gotcha!" on the hearings. A woman who claims to be afraid of flying and admits she lied about it. One who claims she was unaware that Senator Grassley offered to send people out to California to take her statement. If this is true, she is probably the only person in the US who was unaware.
Now you praise Kamala Harris for her disingenuous "do you still beat your wife, answer yes or no?" questions.

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