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Sep 17, 2018 17:08:06   #
Jean Deaux
 
[quote=slatten49]
Jean Deaux wrote:
"Babble on you nattering nabob of negativity."

Wow, the ghost (or reincarnation) of Spiro Agnew

After becoming Richard Nixon's choice for Vice-President, Agnew would rocket from obscurity to national prominence with scorching speeches and off-handed slurs against Japanese Americans and Polish Americans. His dismissive comment about impoverished inner-city neighborhoods - "if you've seen one slum you've seen them all" - drew harsh criticism. In office, he assailed intellectuals as "an effete corps of impudent snobs" for coddling student protesters. He labeled congressional opponents of the war in Vietnam "radic-libs" and denounced Nixon administration critics as "nattering nabobs of negativism."

As vice president, Agnew became a leading administration proponent of law and order - a role that ended abruptly on Oct. 10, 1973, when he resigned after pleading "nolo contendere" - no contest - to a single charge of tax evasion stemming from bribes he pocketed as governor. Prosecutors produced additional evidence - denied by Agnew - that he had been taking bribes from his days as a county executive through his first term as vice president. His downfall offered a tawdry distraction to the burgeoning Watergate scandal that would lead to Nixon's resignation less than a year later.

"He gave voice to the anxieties of that amorphous sociological entity, Middle America, on such issues as crime, race, radical demonstrators and the communications media," The Washington Post wrote after his resignation. "It was the saddest of ironies that Spiro Agnew, a thunderer for law and order, had to end his political career with the admission that he cheated on his taxes."
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I must give credit to Spiro Agnew for his utilization of the phrase, "nattering nabobs of negativity". I'd already have done so but I could not remember the source. It was almost Churchillian and certainly was communicative. Which was why I used it. It had nothing to do with Agnew's downfall. It does, however, have everything to do with current democrat attempts to belittle every effort our current president has taken to make our country great again. It is high time the political enemies of the Republic received credit for their treachery and underhandedness.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:08:46   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Good day to you, young lady. Just 'cause you brought it to attention:

A brief Merriam Webster definition of psycholinguistics: The study of the mental faculties involved in the perception, production, and acquisition of language.


I humbly stand corrected, but remain unbowed.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:12:22   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
oldroy wrote:
This isn't the first treasonous actions by Jon Carry. He went to Paris to meet with the North Vietnamese acting like he was a part of the US government and he wasn't anything other than a National Guard member at the time.

I call him Jon Carry because some American troops in Iraq made up that huge sign in which they admitted to being stupid and spelled his name Jon Carry. I just can't do that one any other way even when he was Barack Obama's Secretary of State. I just wonder if he ever really knew what his 2004 mistake that brought those soldiers in making fun of him were about. Poor soul was trying to use a joke that he must not have understood and he screwed up.
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Jon Carry is a joke, he is a person of "real and actual white privilege". People of the leftist religion have no idea that Jon Carry has actually been embarrassing his self for many years now.
I believe by his actions in working against our duly elected President...has beyond any doubt committed criminal treason, on a international scale..beside this villain undermining us to Iran, he has shown sedition to our Allies and enemies.. Where is Jeff Sessions, Rosenstein, ?? Maybe they're distracted shaving each others legs...before the dance...

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Sep 17, 2018 17:26:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Nickolai wrote:
The electoral college was a concession to the slave state in order to get them to replace the articles of confederation with a constitution and to compensate for the fact the white population was less than the industrial northern states and gave the less populated slave states equalization and now gives the rural areas of the US more power than the states with larger rural areas more power than the blue states with large urban areas the result is two presidential elections out five in the 21 century so far being won by the candidate with fewer popular votes. Totally un democratic and discouraging
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I think this falls into the same category I was addressing earlier, where people confuse the issue of congressional representation with the Electoral College. You are of course referring to the deal where the South was allowed to count each slave as 3/5ths of a person. Of course slaves didn't vote, so why would they count them at all? The answer is that they weren't counting votes, they were counting people being represented, which also included women and men who didn't own property. None of these people could vote either, but counting them as being represented is what resulted in the number of congressional seats available to a state. The design of the Electoral College had nothing to do with any of that.

The confusion sets in because the number of electoral votes for a state is equal to the number of congressional seats for that state. So by allowing slaves to count as 3/5ths of a person, southern states were able to increase the number of electoral votes. So the 3/5ths allowance was a bit unfair from a pure democratic standpoint but as you say, the southern states were at a population disadvantage to start with... you can call it a handicap. But there are no such slaves anymore making the whole issue moot. The only real problem that remains is that congressional districts are unbalanced.

The only way to restore fair representation is to increase the number of seats in Congress or shift some of the existing seats from states like Kansas to states like California until there is parity. Would that mean that states like Kansas would be at a disadvantage? Of course... This has always been a problem with democracy. Minorities don't win. It's also the reason why these people are trying to justify an unfair system and it's why I am suggesting that the nation is too diverse and populated to remain under a single government.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:42:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
byronglimish wrote:
For a unhindered democracy..the United States would have abolish the electoral college..and the ultra socialists on the east and west coast would dictate to the rest of America....No Thanks..


Millions of conservatives in California don't bother to vote because they can't beat the sheer number of kids. It's the same in other west coast stayed AND New York. Probably about 5 million who would have voted if the popular vote decided. Campaigns would look much different as well. Tout your popular vote venom all you want. You STILL lost! Lol!!!!

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Sep 17, 2018 17:49:05   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
oldroy wrote:
You say that Trump's approval ratings are so low and yet, I read in Rasmussen Reports today that he stands at 49% among their likely voters groups.

1. That's one report and limited to likely voters. I was using a source that aggregated ALL of those polled from all major polls
2. 49% still isn't a majority.

oldroy wrote:

That number is higher than Obama was at the same point in his first 2 years. Of course, Rasmussen says his 32% of high numbers measures a -7 against the same numbers for Obama. Problem is that many people like Trump for a number of reasons and lefties just couldn't quite "dislike" Obama. I am sorry to use Rasmussen since you left leaners don't like them. Maybe you need to read how they do their polls and how they report the numbers instead of letting your left leaning people explain to you.
br That number is higher than Obama was at the sa... (show quote)

None of that changes the fact that the numbers (not even from "stretch if you can" Rassmussen) supports the claim that most Americans approve of Trump. That claim is 100% unsubstantiated.

oldroy wrote:

Can you tell me the names of "all" of those people who are writing about what goes on in the White House. Since you people aren't able to tell us who are writing in the far left papers it seems to me that something fishy must be going on.

It doesn't matter if we know who the person is, the fact is that somebody did and that alone is an indication of dysfunction. Can you show me when any such op-ed leaked from any previous administration?

oldroy wrote:

What government job does or did Pee Wee Herman hold? Without anything like that I doubt he could have destroyed ISIS no matter how hard he tried.

And that was my point.

oldroy wrote:

So you are really desirous of Trump not enforcing things in California? What will you say when he takes the dollars from them?

Considering how the federal government get's more dollars from California than it gives to California, I would call that a bad deal for Trump.

oldroy wrote:

We "deplorables" won't lose our hopes on many things.

I don't know if you will loose hope but I remember how you folks cried and threw tantrums when Obama won in 2006 and again in 2012. I expect the same thing will happen in 2020.

oldroy wrote:

I would like to bring up the latest smear campaign from the Dems about the Supreme Court appointment.

Then post a new topic.

oldroy wrote:

That woman may be a member of "Me Too" but she couldn't remember the name of what she wanted to be her witness against Kavanaugh. I think Feinstein waited too long to tell the story and didn't check to see if such was going on. I will never like Feinstein because she wants to take away my guns and then the leaning army could push me around.

No offense but I seriously doubt your guns would make any difference.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:51:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Presidential elections have been decided by the winner of the electoral college in every election since the first one. If you don't like it, there is an amendment process for changing it. All you have to do it get enough people to agree with you. Rots of Ruck.


That is exactly right. Every single one!!

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Sep 17, 2018 17:52:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Apparently, you didn't understand anything I said. I am not opposed the Electoral College. Check your reading comprehension pal.


You're opposed to it.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:53:09   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
That is exactly right. Every single one!!

And what exactly does that prove?

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Sep 17, 2018 17:53:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
A minority..? Seriously?
Look, the MAJORITY of Americans live in heavily Democratic urban areas, which makes the rural populations the minority. So it's accurate to say that the MINORITY populations in rural areas have little in common with MOST of the country (that is, if we're counting citizens and not squirrels, birds and trees).

You are relying on geographical divisions to make excuses for ignoring the majority of American citizens and I can see right through it. Get a brain.


Not at all.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:53:54   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You're opposed to it.


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Sep 17, 2018 17:54:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
No, Smedly... The Electoral College is NOT designed to obscure or combat the popular vote. Read the Constitution for crying out loud.


So sorry, straightdown, you ha e missed the point. Der!

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Sep 17, 2018 17:55:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
How many of your popular vote majority didn't come from New York and California? Maybe you need to check that out.


He just doesn't get it oldroy.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:56:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
The electoral college was a concession to the slave state in order to get them to replace the articles of confederation with a constitution and to compensate for the fact the white population was less than the industrial northern states and gave the less populated slave states equalization and now gives the rural areas of the US more power than the states with larger rural areas more power than the blue states with large urban areas the result is two presidential elections out five in the 21 century so far being won by the candidate with fewer popular votes. Totally un democratic and discouraging
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Either way, straight up is confused.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:59:13   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
You say that Trump's approval ratings are so low and yet, I read in Rasmussen Reports today that he stands at 49% among their likely voters groups. That number is higher than Obama was at the same point in his first 2 years. Of course, Rasmussen says his 32% of high numbers measures a -7 against the same numbers for Obama. Problem is that many people like Trump for a number of reasons and lefties just couldn't quite "dislike" Obama. I am sorry to use Rasmussen since you left leaners don't like them. Maybe you need to read how they do their polls and how they report the numbers instead of letting your left leaning people explain to you.

Can you tell me the names of "all" of those people who are writing about what goes on in the White House. Since you people aren't able to tell us who are writing in the far left papers it seems to me that something fishy must be going on.

What government job does or did Pee Wee Herman hold? Without anything like that I doubt he could have destroyed ISIS no matter how hard he tried.

So you are really desirous of Trump not enforcing things in California? What will you say when he takes the dollars from them?

We "deplorables" won't lose our hopes on many things. I would like to bring up the latest smear campaign from the Dems about the Supreme Court appointment. That woman may be a member of "Me Too" but she couldn't remember the name of what she wanted to be her witness against Kavanaugh. I think Feinstein waited too long to tell the story and didn't check to see if such was going on. I will never like Feinstein because she wants to take away my guns and then the leaning army could push me around.
You say that Trump's approval ratings are so low a... (show quote)


She did it in such an obvious way, it will turn off those who are sick of politics as usual. Lol! Her Chinese spy is probably still advising her.

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