straightUp Loc: California

That's very commendable.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Liberal progs "willing to fight for liberty and justice"????

Oh, sweet Jesus!

straightUp Loc: California

I've mentioned it once. Feel free to look through my posts. Maybe you are confusing me with someone else.


Your missing the point. If you go back through the conversation you will notice that I was responding to the statement that Trump was never accused of being a racist until the 2016 election. The fact is, he WAS accused; whether or not the charges were dismissed doesn't change that fact.


Yes, that is a whole other debate, but you would find me partially agreeing with you on that one. I oppose ALL income tax but I agree that property tax creates inequality between school districts.


First of all, I'm not a Democrat, so your barking up the wrong tree here, but more than that... the REASON why I am not a Democrat is because I am driven by ideas not identity politics. What troubles me is how people who ARE driven by identity politics spend so much time stressing the history of political parties that they forget to pay attention to the ideas that are making or breaking the republic right now.

straightUp Loc: California

I'm not actually sure what you're talking about. Sorry.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

". Secondly, there is no way for anyone to KNOW who else has had multiple IDs, not even the admin"

That proves my point. How could you know that!? Lol!

Gotcha!

straightUp Loc: California

What you witnessed at the school board and city hall meetings according to your description is NOT civil disobedience... it would be better described as compliant proceedings. You DO know what "disobedience" means, right? Now, you may never have experienced a situation where compliant proceedings threaten your freedom or your life (cities and schools rarely have that power) but state and federal proceedings sometimes do and this is where non-violent civil disobedience comes into the picture. If THAT doesn't work, violent rebellion is the next step to take (if the issue is worth the chaos). It's fortunate for us that civil disobedience is part of the American tradition and is in fact the reason for almost all the civil rights we have today. In many places like China and North Korea compliant proceedings are the final stand and civil disobedience will land you in prison.

Saul Alinski's book is a primer on civil disobedience and it's a mistake to write it off as an association with any specific party or movement. Rules for Radicals is universal, much like the Art of War. In fact it was the Tea Party (the first ever conservative movement with the balls to oppose the establishment) that brought the book out of obscurity. Unfortunately for them they didn't seem to have the fortitude to use it effectively.

I would advise you to read it, instead of using it as a rhetorical prop.

straightUp Loc: California

No, that proves MY point. YOU were the one saying that I'm on my 3rd id AND calling it a "fact"... remember?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Incorrect. I've seen it many times. Der. Your claim that no one could know is the kicker, dude. LOL!

straightUp Loc: California

You're going to love this one then... If you value your freedom, thank a liberal.

I know this is where I piss a lot of people off, but if you're thinking we owe our freedom to soldiers, you're wrong. There is not a soldier alive today that has fought for our freedom. We owe it all to progressives, good lawyers and the idealism of our founding fathers.

If you disagree, feel free to counter but be prepared - this will not be the first time I've had this argument.

straightUp Loc: California

Let's review...

nwtk2007 wrote: In fact, you're on about your third ID here on opp. https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=2560621&t=140070

straightUp wrote: there is no way for anyone to KNOW who else has had multiple IDs, not even the admin. https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=2561640&t=140070

nwtk2007 wrote: That proves my point. How could you know that!? https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=2561677&t=140070

straightUp wrote: YOU were the one saying that I'm on my 3rd id AND calling it a "fact"... remember? https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/tpr?p=2561705&t=140070


You've seen WHAT many times?


(scratching my head) Are you actually trying to beat me with nonsense?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

straightUp Loc: California

I'm not trying to denigrate anyone. I'm just saying what other people don't understand or are too scared to say. You might *think* you fought for the right to be free and for you that's probably all that matters but the fact is you didn't. This doesn't take away from your courage or your dedication or the fact that soldiers put their lives on the line. I am simply stating that you aren't responsible for any of our freedoms.


The problem here is that "idiots like you" don't realize that our greatest vulnerability is the market not the battlefield. It's "idiots like you" that have been allowing globalists to privatize the assets of our nation that have previously been under the sovereign protection of our republic. In a nutshell, there is no point in attacking us if everything that could possibly be gained is already up for sale on the free market.

And the only people you stand armed against are the people who dare challenge the oppressors that own and operate you.


That will never happen because no one gives a sh*t about attacking us in the first place for reasons I just explained. I understand, you need to validate yourself. Just don't expect me to buy your sh*t.


I wouldn't bet on that. Being armed to the teeth doesn't make you the best fighters. The U.S. military has a world-wide reputation for being over-dependent on equipment and weapons. This is why after 17 years we STILL can't beat the Taliban in Afghanistan, because we are limited by our reliance on 2nd generation warfare (radios and air strikes), which is much less effective in mountainous terrain. I can go on but I'm sure you're already seething.


Unless you're going to vote against Trump, we don't need your "help".

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Who is your "we?"

CounterRevolutionary

It is these 6 "lock-step" media moguls who are members of the Bilderberg Group, founded by the Pizzagate royalty of the Netherlands, Queen Beatrice and her husband Prince Bernhard, a former employee of I.G. Farben Bilder, the chemical and munitions combine under the 3rd Reich, one of the IG's 800 subsidiaries with a plot to take over the world if Hitler failed. Many of IG's subsidizries were located deep inside the Soviet Union, hard communists alied with the Nazis.

Application of the anti-trust laws to break up this media monopoly would go a long, long way to remedy the stranglehold they have on the press. The DOJ should List the Bilderberg Group as an international terrorist organization would also make it a crime for these corporations to subsidize these sponsors of pedophiles, drug and sex trafficing which funds terrorism. The problem is that our CIA guards their assemblies around the globe. This is why the CIA needs to be shut down.

Read Daniel Estulin's "The True Story of the Bilderberg Group" for all the details of this international criminal organization of royalty, politicians, media moguls, and galloping global corporations.
https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Bilderberg-Group/dp/0979988624/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536820541&sr=1-1&keywords=the+true+story+of+the+bilderberg+group+by+daniel+estulin
see page 329 "Companies listed as corporate members" of the Council of Foreign Relations that heavily staffs the Bilderberg Group and page 330 listing Google. Inc.

Now try to pull up the founders of the Bilderberg Group that the CIA protects - the Dutch Royal family, and keep in mind that the Clintons are members of the Bilderberg Group that launched Bill Clinton's bid for the White House in 1993:

Just google IMAGES "pizzagate queen beatrice and marina abramovic"
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1658833

Now, Google won't allow copy and pasting these images of the Dutch Royal Family celebrating with the Serbian Witch because they are cronies of the pdeophile Podesta brothers and Hillary Clinton, of whom whose 2016 campaign Google helped manage.

Why is our CIA guarding this lowlife?

CounterRevolutionary

nwtk2007, you write: "There is not a soldier alive today that has fought for our freedom. We owe it all to progressives, good lawyers and the idealism of our founding fathers."

The Progressives of Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt did everything in their power to advance the alliance of Kaiser Wilhelm with the Bolsheviks and Stalin with Hitler. thank God we have a Congress. And yes, there are soldiers alive today who fought bravely in the World Wars, the Korean War, the Cold War, the Vietnam War, Desert Storm and Iraq to spare us the advances of communism, fascism and despotism of madmen and a takeover of international energy reserves.

The depth of your historical ignorance is shining through tonight - or are you attributing this statement above to StrightUp?