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Aug 4, 2018 12:34:09   #
rumitoid
 
Crayons wrote:
No gun zone's have the highest level of violence...like the city of Chicago,
look that one up sunshine...your leftist list of todays talkin points 'holds no water'


Mass shootings at "no gun zones" barely have a percentage point. There is no correlation. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/03/24/nras-gun-free-zone-myth--column/2015657/

Trump created that myth when he said, before the NRA, that "98.2% of all mass shootings" happen in "no gun zones."

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Aug 4, 2018 12:37:47   #
rumitoid
 
Big dog wrote:
Time for me to renew my membership in the NRA, the Only organization that wants our current gun laws enforced. Unlike the liberal judges that love letting criminals go free so they can kill again.


Too funny and huh?

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Aug 4, 2018 12:39:20   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
How did you prepare your morning chickenshit?


As usual. I read your posts.

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Aug 4, 2018 12:50:32   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Mass shootings at "no gun zones" barely have a percentage point. There is no correlation. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/03/24/nras-gun-free-zone-myth--column/2015657/

Trump created that myth when he said, before the NRA, that "98.2% of all mass shootings" happen in "no gun zones."


Out of the last 25 mass shootings, 24 happened in gun free zones. Well, not exactly gun free. The shooter was armed.

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Aug 4, 2018 12:51:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
As usual. I read your posts.


They were posted in the hope that you would at least water down the chicken kacky. It would seem that hope was futile.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:21:15   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
Out of the last 25 mass shootings, 24 happened in gun free zones. Well, not exactly gun free. The shooter was armed.


Only ten percent of incidents took place in “gun-free zones”, or areas where civilians are prohibited from carrying firearms and there is not a regular armed law enforcement presence (armed security guards, for example). The vast majority of incidents—63 percent—took place entirely in private homes. https://everytownresearch.org/reports/mass-shootings-analysis/

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Aug 4, 2018 13:22:28   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
They were posted in the hope that you would at least water down the chicken kacky. It would seem that hope was futile.


Chicken kacky? Odd moniker for truth.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:24:09   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Chicken kacky? Odd moniker for truth.


Once more; what you post is not truth. It is propaganda. It is bigoted, one-sided, myopic Liberal drivel, but it is most emphatically not truth.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:43:59   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
Once more; what you post is not truth. It is propaganda. It is bigoted, one-sided, myopic Liberal drivel, but it is most emphatically not truth.


Okay, prove it! Always a problem for you.

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Aug 4, 2018 14:20:58   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Okay, prove it! Always a problem for you.


I can and have proven it time after time after time after time and it does no good. The armor of invincible ignorance and unbeatable self-righteousness is proof against anything. You prove this with every post you type.

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Aug 4, 2018 15:19:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
As many here know, I have commented on this issue frequently and presented what I consider fair and reasonable controls. Federally universal registration. No permit until background check complete not lasting more than thirty days; after that the purchase is legal. All gun sales to be registered, including gun shows, grandfathering, and the internet. No assault-type weapons and magazines limited to ten rounds. Felons who have successfully completed their probation and have no record of violence can buy a gun. People with a record of violence that have a restraining order cannot own a gun. Mentally ill people with a record of violence cannot own a gun. An agency well-funded and well-staffed to do background checks. Local law enforcement's easy access to lodge concerns and complaints with the Federal government, with a branch of the Federal agency specifically dedicated to investigate. Any known member of a Hate Group that has made violent threats against the government or a certain group of people cannot own a gun.
As many here know, I have commented on this issue ... (show quote)
You could have saved some time at the keyboard and stated this with four words---"repeal the second amendment."


rumitoid wrote:
Saying violent crime is down in America is like changing seats on the Titanic.

Fact is violent crime peaked in 1980, and has been on the decline since.

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"The principal public safety concerns with respect to guns are suicides and illegally owned handguns, not mass shootings." Where did you get that? I feel fairly certain that students and their parents across America are far more concerned about mass shootings.

How you feel is irrelevant. The traumatic experiences of students and parents directly affected by gun violence are purely subjective.

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"A small number of factors significantly increase the likelihood that a person will be a victim of a gun-related homicide." Lol, what? Makes no sense. Unless that "small number of factors" means being Black in a ghetto, or something like that.

Yes, the factors surrounding the likelihood of being a homicide victim are quite limited. It doesn't take a genius to research this.

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"Gun-related murders are carried out by a predictable pool of people." Again, lol, what on earth does that have to do with anything. Marriages are carried out by a predictable pool of people. And....?

Again, there is a voluminous body of statistics and psychological research into what compels a person to commit murder. IOW, those who kill another fit a specific psychological profile.

rumitoid wrote:
Okay, prove it! Always a problem for you.
Thetrace, Vox, USAtoday, and CBS news???
You do realize, don't you, that these are not crime research institutes, crime statistics analysis centers, or law enforcement archives? You must be aware that these sources are what you call "media" where the 1st amendment right to free speech allows them to write opinions and points of view subject to biases, ideological prejudices, politicization, selective sourcing or cherry picking, data manipulation or spin, and even fictional short stories. Such sources are notoriously unreliable in reporting facts.

Due to your opinionated responses above, it is obvious that you are not honestly seeking the facts on gun crime, rather you are propagating an anti-gun political agenda. If it is facts you are looking for, it isn't difficult to access the facts about gun violence.

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Aug 4, 2018 15:20:19   #
Big dog
 
rumitoid wrote:
Have you bothered to look up our gun violence as compared to other First World countries. Do so and be appalled, well, hopefully.

"Higher rates of gun ownership are not associated with higher rates of violent crime." States with the lowest rates of firearm ownership (Connecticut, Hawaii, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, California, Florida, Illinois, and Maryland) had significantly lower rates of firearm-related assault and robbery, firearm homicide, and overall homicide.

States with the highest gun-ownership levels (Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota, Arkansas, Arizona, West Virginia, North Dakota, Idaho, Mississippi, and Alabama), meanwhile, had 6.8 times the rate of firearm assaults, 2.8 times the rate of firearm homicides, and twice the rate of overall homicides than states with the lowest gun-ownership levels. https://www.thetrace.org/2015/06/new-study-is-latest-to-find-that-higher-rates-of-gun-ownership-lead-to-higher-rates-of-violent-crime/

More guns equal more death in every city and every state? That should be easy enough to fact-check. "Within the United States, a wide array of empirical evidence indicates that more guns in a community leads to more homicide," David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, wrote in Private Guns, Public Health. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/8/9870240/gun-ownership-deaths-homicides

"Violent crime is down and has been on the decline for decades." You have proven the adage, "Statistics lie, and liars use statistics." Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds. Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

Saying violent crime is down in America is like changing seats on the Titanic.

"The principal public safety concerns with respect to guns are suicides and illegally owned handguns, not mass shootings." Where did you get that? I feel fairly certain that students and their parents across America are far more concerned about mass shootings.

"A small number of factors significantly increase the likelihood that a person will be a victim of a gun-related homicide." Lol, what? Makes no sense. Unless that "small number of factors" means being Black in a ghetto, or something like that.

"Gun-related murders are carried out by a predictable pool of people." Again, lol, what on earth does that have to do with anything. Marriages are carried out by a predictable pool of people. And....?
Have you bothered to look up our gun violence as c... (show quote)

You DO seem preoccupied with firearms. How's about all the people that die EVERY DAY by automobiles, or teenagers texting and driving, or SO many other concerns that Should be addressed.
Please, stop believing that You have the answer when Your way allowed MILLIONS of people to die in Germany during the Reign of hitler, Russia during the Reign of Stalin and SO many other places and times when the citizens rights to firearm ownership were "controlled for their protection".

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Aug 4, 2018 15:21:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BigMike wrote:
Why do you want to lie like that about people you don't know?

1) The NRA is not to blame for any of this shit.

2) Asserting they're "OK" with gun violence is base hyperbole. Too bad you can't be sued for libel.


And, considering the corruption we are seeing in the FBI, CIA and the left at present, it would be pure stupidity for us to consider giving up an iota of our gun freedom.

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Aug 4, 2018 15:24:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Crayons wrote:
No gun zone's have the highest level of violence...like the city of Chicago,
look that one up sunshine...your leftist list of todays talkin points 'holds no water'


If the Chicago gangs had a drop on integrity and honor, they'd ban guns and fight only with knives.

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Aug 4, 2018 16:11:44   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
I can and have proven it time after time after time after time and it does no good. The armor of invincible ignorance and unbeatable self-righteousness is proof against anything. You prove this with every post you type.


So you claim, I have never seen it. So now you forsake truth and evidence for ad hominem attacks, resorting to just a troll, tired of having your so-called sources reduced to BS rubble. My condolences.

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