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Once Again, for You Disbelievers, More Facts About Present-Day Climate Change
Jul 29, 2018 14:37:54 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I gotta tell ya, Mike, global warming alarmists ar... (show quote)
Blade Runner, thanks for the references. As stated, the very first one was a genuine eye opener, understandable and, I believe, accurate. Genuine Kudos!!
Jul 29, 2018 14:52:27 #
Icebreaker in Hudson Bay â In late July
July 28, 2018
Email from reader on the eastern shore of Hudson Bay.
_______________________
Hi Robert,
I'm in Puvirnituk, Nunavik, and the merchant ships had to call in the ice breaker to open the water ways to get out of the Hudson bay. I can see the ice breaker in the distance. It is sitting there waiting for the boats to finish unloading.
When asked about the ice everyone is saying it's not normal this time of year.
Have a nice day.
Sidney B.
July 28, 2018
Email from reader on the eastern shore of Hudson Bay.
_______________________
Hi Robert,
I'm in Puvirnituk, Nunavik, and the merchant ships had to call in the ice breaker to open the water ways to get out of the Hudson bay. I can see the ice breaker in the distance. It is sitting there waiting for the boats to finish unloading.
When asked about the ice everyone is saying it's not normal this time of year.
Have a nice day.
Sidney B.
Richard94611 wrote:
b 'Historically unprecedented summer heat' will n... (show quote)
Jul 29, 2018 14:57:34 #
Now they’re waging war on plastics!
May 16, 2018 by Robert
Global warming turned out to be a hoax. Now plastics have usurped dangerous manmade climate change’s role as the threat to planetary survival!?” This informative commentary by Tom Harris sets the record straight on some of the absurd claims against these truly miracle materials.
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“Plastics are vital for modern health, technology and civilization – for food packaging, furniture, cars, shoes, heart valves, water pipes, toys, protective helmets, smart phones and countless other products that we rely on every day,” says Paul Driessen. “And yet, demonstrating once again how totally out of touch with reality they are, radical environmentalist groups are now demanding an end to plastic.
“Anti-plastics campaigns are huge and growing – driven forward by Earth Day organizers and the UN’s upcoming, taxpayer-funded World Environment Day, which has chosen “Beat Plastic Pollution” as its theme this year. Most want all plastics eliminated, but some say it will be OK to continue making and using plastics – if they are manufactured from manmade biofuels. Of course that would mean growing more specialty plants on billions of acres of land that today is food crop land or wildlife habitat. Sadly, this insanity is what we have come to expect from activists who oppose drilling for, producing and using Mother Nature’s own biofuels: the oil and natural gas that natural geologic processes have put right under our feet.”
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Now they’re waging war on plastics!
Earth Day Network’s misguided anti-plastic campaign is a sign of more nonsense to come
By Tom Harris
Earth Day Network (EDN) chose “End Plastic Pollution” as their theme for this year’s April 22 Earth Day. It is just the tip of the anti-plastic activism that now consumes environmental extremists. A Google search on “Plastic Pollution Coalition” (a group claiming to represent “more than 500 member organizations” dedicated to “working toward a world free of plastic pollution and its toxic impacts”) yields almost 90,000 hits, including a video actor Jeff Bridges made for the campaign.
Even the United Nations has joined in, making “Beat Plastic Pollution” the theme of its June 5 World Environment Day, “a global platform for public outreach that is widely celebrated in over 100 countries.”
But demanding heavy-handed action on the comparatively minor problems that plastics present makes no sense. To help the public assess these attacks against this miracle material, let’s consider what leading environmental thinkers have to say about issues EDN raised on Earth Day, beginning with its use of the term “Plastic Pollution.”
Canadian ecologist and Greenpeace cofounder Dr. Patrick Moore stresses that plastic is not toxic. “It’s litter, not pollution. Many people find it unsightly, and the solution is to educate people not to discard it into the environment and to organize, as is done on highways, to have it removed.”
EDN also says plastics are “poisoning and injuring marine life.” As Moore notes, “Plastic does not ‘poison’ anything. It’s non-toxic. Do they think our credit cards, made with PVC plastic, are ‘toxic’?” Of course, plastics can release toxins when burned, but not when they are simply littered into the general environment. So burning should be done under careful emission control standards.
“The main reason birds and fish eat bits of plastic is to get the food that is growing on them,” Moore adds. “But they’re both quite capable of passing bones and other fairly large objects through their digestive systems.” Plastics are no exception.
Paul Driessen, senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow and author of books and articles on energy and environmental policy, points out that “some animals do ingest plastics or get caught in plastic loops and nets. But the notion that marine life (and people) are being poisoned by chemicals in plastics has no scientific basis.”
EDN next complained about “the ubiquitous presence of plastics in our food.” Moore responded, “This is complete nonsense. If a bit of plastic gets in our food it is passed right through the digestive system.”
“Plastic wraps and containers help preserve food and keep bacteria out,” Driessen emphasized. “Which is worse? Barely detectable trace amounts of chemicals in our bodies, or serious bacterial outbreaks?”
EDN also worried about plastic “disrupting human hormones.” Physician and lawyer John Dale Dunn, a lecturer in Emergency Medicine at the Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center in Fort Hood, Texas, dismisses this concern. “Hormone disrupter scares … are based on junk science. Many extensive studies have shown no toxic or lethal effects from BPA, which is a beneficial chemical that has promoted progress and provided new products that are well received and very helpful.
“The debunking of hormone disruptor researchers and their claims has been definitive and devastating,” Dunn notes. “JunkScience.com director Steve Milloy also has been prolific in his criticisms of hormone disruptor junk science,” as this excellent article explains.
Bizarrely and unbelievably, EDN proclaimed plastic as “threatening our planet’s survival.” Reminiscent of how Comedian George Carlin poked funat the plastics scare, Driessen dismisses this hyperbole. “Earth has survived huge meteor strikes, massive ice ages, Devonian and other mass extinctions, and other planetary calamities. Now plastics have usurped dangerous manmade climate change’s role as the threat to planetary survival!?”
EDN promotes “a global effort to eliminate primarily single-use plastics.” Steve Goreham, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of “Outside the Green Box – Rethinking Sustainable Development,” responds: “Single use plastics are a boon for humanity. Packaging food in plastics instead of animal skins, wood, metal, glass and paper brings major sanitation, convenience and health benefits, as well as lower cost. The solution is biodegradable plastics for single-use products, not elimination of plastic.”
In keeping with their climate alarmism, EDN said they want “alternatives to fossil fuel-based materials.” Driessen replies: “It is absurd to suggest that non-oil and gas sources would make plastics better – or that it could be done without turning nearly the entire planet into a massive biofuel farm to provide energy and plastics. The impacts on water supplies, croplands and wildlife habitat lands would be devastating.”
As retired NASA-JSC engineer Alex Pope explains, “fossil fuels and fossil fuel products have made life better for billions of people on this Earth…. This better life is due to energy from fossil fuels and to fossil fuel products, especially plastic products.… The war against fossil fuels and fossil fuel products is all the same war. I think they know they are losing many parts of the war against using fossil fuels for energy,” so now they are cranking up the war against vital fossil fuel products that enhance and safeguard lives.
EDN wants “100% recycling of plastics.” Goreham brushed this idea aside. “100% recycling of plastics is not an economically sound policy. Either landfilling, incinerating, composting or recycling plastics is best, based on cost and applicability. Today’s landfills are environmentally friendly in modern nations.”
EDN wants people to “reduce, refuse, reuse, recycle and remove plastics.” Driessen says “this will work in some places and cultures. But where people have no food, sanitation, clean water, jobs, electricity or real hope for the future, do you really think they will worry incessantly about plastics?”
The first Earth Day was held on 22 April 1970 in response to the legitimate concerns of millions of people that reducing air, land and water pollution needed to happen more quickly. The movement grew, until today Earth Day Network president Kathleen Rogers estimates that “more than 1 billion people in 192 countries now take part in what is the largest civic-focused day of action in the world.”
This should surprise no one. All sensible people are environmentalists. We want to enjoy clean air, land and water, and we like to think future generations will live in an even better environment. These were the original Earth Day objectives, and I am happy to have presented at Earth Day events in the early 1990s.
However, as Henry Miller and Jeff Stier observe in a Fox News article, “In recent years, Earth Day has devolved into an occasion for professional environmental activists and alarmists to warn of apocalypse, dish up anti-technology dirt, and proselytize. Passion and zeal now trump science, and provability takes a back seat to plausibility.” That is sending science and rational thinking backward hundreds of years.
All this demonstrates the wisdom of Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt’s proposed rule to require that data underlying scientific studies used to justify federal environment and energy policies be open to public inspection and criticism. This means actual evidence, full independent peer review, and data, methodologies, computer codes and algorithms will no longer be kept secret.
Sterling Burnett, senior fellow for environment and energy policy at The Heartland Institute, calls Pruitt’s proposal “one small step for regulatory reform, one giant leap for scientific integrity and political transparency.” EDN and its allied groups should have to prove plastics are dangerous pollutants, before governments take any actions against them.
Meanwhile, Goreham reminds us how important plastics are to health and safety in modern societies. “They are a miracle material. We fabricate food containers, boat paddles, shoes, heart valves, pipes, toys, protective helmets and smart phones from plastic.”
Even EDN and some other anti-plastics groups seem to recognize that plastics are indispensable for numerous applications, since they also call for manufacturing these products. They just want them made from manmade hydrocarbons (biofuels, et cetera), instead of from the oil and natural gas that Mother Nature created and left beneath Earth’s surface for humanity to use to improve our lives in countless ways.
Hopefully, applying Pruitt’s new rule, and ignoring the groundless claims of extreme eco-activists, will ensure that plastics are with us for a long time to come.
Tom Harris is executive director of the Ottawa, Ontario-based International Climate Science Coalition.
May 16, 2018 by Robert
Global warming turned out to be a hoax. Now plastics have usurped dangerous manmade climate change’s role as the threat to planetary survival!?” This informative commentary by Tom Harris sets the record straight on some of the absurd claims against these truly miracle materials.
____________________
“Plastics are vital for modern health, technology and civilization – for food packaging, furniture, cars, shoes, heart valves, water pipes, toys, protective helmets, smart phones and countless other products that we rely on every day,” says Paul Driessen. “And yet, demonstrating once again how totally out of touch with reality they are, radical environmentalist groups are now demanding an end to plastic.
“Anti-plastics campaigns are huge and growing – driven forward by Earth Day organizers and the UN’s upcoming, taxpayer-funded World Environment Day, which has chosen “Beat Plastic Pollution” as its theme this year. Most want all plastics eliminated, but some say it will be OK to continue making and using plastics – if they are manufactured from manmade biofuels. Of course that would mean growing more specialty plants on billions of acres of land that today is food crop land or wildlife habitat. Sadly, this insanity is what we have come to expect from activists who oppose drilling for, producing and using Mother Nature’s own biofuels: the oil and natural gas that natural geologic processes have put right under our feet.”
__________________
Now they’re waging war on plastics!
Earth Day Network’s misguided anti-plastic campaign is a sign of more nonsense to come
By Tom Harris
Earth Day Network (EDN) chose “End Plastic Pollution” as their theme for this year’s April 22 Earth Day. It is just the tip of the anti-plastic activism that now consumes environmental extremists. A Google search on “Plastic Pollution Coalition” (a group claiming to represent “more than 500 member organizations” dedicated to “working toward a world free of plastic pollution and its toxic impacts”) yields almost 90,000 hits, including a video actor Jeff Bridges made for the campaign.
Even the United Nations has joined in, making “Beat Plastic Pollution” the theme of its June 5 World Environment Day, “a global platform for public outreach that is widely celebrated in over 100 countries.”
But demanding heavy-handed action on the comparatively minor problems that plastics present makes no sense. To help the public assess these attacks against this miracle material, let’s consider what leading environmental thinkers have to say about issues EDN raised on Earth Day, beginning with its use of the term “Plastic Pollution.”
Canadian ecologist and Greenpeace cofounder Dr. Patrick Moore stresses that plastic is not toxic. “It’s litter, not pollution. Many people find it unsightly, and the solution is to educate people not to discard it into the environment and to organize, as is done on highways, to have it removed.”
EDN also says plastics are “poisoning and injuring marine life.” As Moore notes, “Plastic does not ‘poison’ anything. It’s non-toxic. Do they think our credit cards, made with PVC plastic, are ‘toxic’?” Of course, plastics can release toxins when burned, but not when they are simply littered into the general environment. So burning should be done under careful emission control standards.
“The main reason birds and fish eat bits of plastic is to get the food that is growing on them,” Moore adds. “But they’re both quite capable of passing bones and other fairly large objects through their digestive systems.” Plastics are no exception.
Paul Driessen, senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow and author of books and articles on energy and environmental policy, points out that “some animals do ingest plastics or get caught in plastic loops and nets. But the notion that marine life (and people) are being poisoned by chemicals in plastics has no scientific basis.”
EDN next complained about “the ubiquitous presence of plastics in our food.” Moore responded, “This is complete nonsense. If a bit of plastic gets in our food it is passed right through the digestive system.”
“Plastic wraps and containers help preserve food and keep bacteria out,” Driessen emphasized. “Which is worse? Barely detectable trace amounts of chemicals in our bodies, or serious bacterial outbreaks?”
EDN also worried about plastic “disrupting human hormones.” Physician and lawyer John Dale Dunn, a lecturer in Emergency Medicine at the Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center in Fort Hood, Texas, dismisses this concern. “Hormone disrupter scares … are based on junk science. Many extensive studies have shown no toxic or lethal effects from BPA, which is a beneficial chemical that has promoted progress and provided new products that are well received and very helpful.
“The debunking of hormone disruptor researchers and their claims has been definitive and devastating,” Dunn notes. “JunkScience.com director Steve Milloy also has been prolific in his criticisms of hormone disruptor junk science,” as this excellent article explains.
Bizarrely and unbelievably, EDN proclaimed plastic as “threatening our planet’s survival.” Reminiscent of how Comedian George Carlin poked funat the plastics scare, Driessen dismisses this hyperbole. “Earth has survived huge meteor strikes, massive ice ages, Devonian and other mass extinctions, and other planetary calamities. Now plastics have usurped dangerous manmade climate change’s role as the threat to planetary survival!?”
EDN promotes “a global effort to eliminate primarily single-use plastics.” Steve Goreham, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of “Outside the Green Box – Rethinking Sustainable Development,” responds: “Single use plastics are a boon for humanity. Packaging food in plastics instead of animal skins, wood, metal, glass and paper brings major sanitation, convenience and health benefits, as well as lower cost. The solution is biodegradable plastics for single-use products, not elimination of plastic.”
In keeping with their climate alarmism, EDN said they want “alternatives to fossil fuel-based materials.” Driessen replies: “It is absurd to suggest that non-oil and gas sources would make plastics better – or that it could be done without turning nearly the entire planet into a massive biofuel farm to provide energy and plastics. The impacts on water supplies, croplands and wildlife habitat lands would be devastating.”
As retired NASA-JSC engineer Alex Pope explains, “fossil fuels and fossil fuel products have made life better for billions of people on this Earth…. This better life is due to energy from fossil fuels and to fossil fuel products, especially plastic products.… The war against fossil fuels and fossil fuel products is all the same war. I think they know they are losing many parts of the war against using fossil fuels for energy,” so now they are cranking up the war against vital fossil fuel products that enhance and safeguard lives.
EDN wants “100% recycling of plastics.” Goreham brushed this idea aside. “100% recycling of plastics is not an economically sound policy. Either landfilling, incinerating, composting or recycling plastics is best, based on cost and applicability. Today’s landfills are environmentally friendly in modern nations.”
EDN wants people to “reduce, refuse, reuse, recycle and remove plastics.” Driessen says “this will work in some places and cultures. But where people have no food, sanitation, clean water, jobs, electricity or real hope for the future, do you really think they will worry incessantly about plastics?”
The first Earth Day was held on 22 April 1970 in response to the legitimate concerns of millions of people that reducing air, land and water pollution needed to happen more quickly. The movement grew, until today Earth Day Network president Kathleen Rogers estimates that “more than 1 billion people in 192 countries now take part in what is the largest civic-focused day of action in the world.”
This should surprise no one. All sensible people are environmentalists. We want to enjoy clean air, land and water, and we like to think future generations will live in an even better environment. These were the original Earth Day objectives, and I am happy to have presented at Earth Day events in the early 1990s.
However, as Henry Miller and Jeff Stier observe in a Fox News article, “In recent years, Earth Day has devolved into an occasion for professional environmental activists and alarmists to warn of apocalypse, dish up anti-technology dirt, and proselytize. Passion and zeal now trump science, and provability takes a back seat to plausibility.” That is sending science and rational thinking backward hundreds of years.
All this demonstrates the wisdom of Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt’s proposed rule to require that data underlying scientific studies used to justify federal environment and energy policies be open to public inspection and criticism. This means actual evidence, full independent peer review, and data, methodologies, computer codes and algorithms will no longer be kept secret.
Sterling Burnett, senior fellow for environment and energy policy at The Heartland Institute, calls Pruitt’s proposal “one small step for regulatory reform, one giant leap for scientific integrity and political transparency.” EDN and its allied groups should have to prove plastics are dangerous pollutants, before governments take any actions against them.
Meanwhile, Goreham reminds us how important plastics are to health and safety in modern societies. “They are a miracle material. We fabricate food containers, boat paddles, shoes, heart valves, pipes, toys, protective helmets and smart phones from plastic.”
Even EDN and some other anti-plastics groups seem to recognize that plastics are indispensable for numerous applications, since they also call for manufacturing these products. They just want them made from manmade hydrocarbons (biofuels, et cetera), instead of from the oil and natural gas that Mother Nature created and left beneath Earth’s surface for humanity to use to improve our lives in countless ways.
Hopefully, applying Pruitt’s new rule, and ignoring the groundless claims of extreme eco-activists, will ensure that plastics are with us for a long time to come.
Tom Harris is executive director of the Ottawa, Ontario-based International Climate Science Coalition.
Richard94611 wrote:
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Jul 29, 2018 15:14:50 #
You are either wrong or lying about the facts., I won't waste my time going through every misrepreentation you have made here, but here are a few:
Polar Bear Decline
https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/polar-bear-population-decline-a-wake-up-call-for-climate-change-action
Older Arctic Ice is Melting
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2016/11/01/shrinking-sea-ice/
A NASA photo lapse presentation shows that, contrary to what you maintain, the ice is melting.
Heat Records are being exceeded in many, many places in the world
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/03/hot-planet-all-time-heat-records-have-been-set-all-over-the-world-in-last-week/?utm_term=.d589cae11f93
Believe whatever you wish to believe, since your mind is closed to facts. Science doesn't care. The changes that have been occuring are accelerating. Fortunately most of the world recognizes that climate change is real, that it is dangerous to human beings, and that it is being caused by the activities of man. The mechanism are well-known and tested. And if you don't believe this, you can sit in the looney bin with all your denying friends and have a good hoot as the water inches up over your shoes.
Polar Bear Decline
https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/polar-bear-population-decline-a-wake-up-call-for-climate-change-action
Older Arctic Ice is Melting
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2016/11/01/shrinking-sea-ice/
A NASA photo lapse presentation shows that, contrary to what you maintain, the ice is melting.
Heat Records are being exceeded in many, many places in the world
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/03/hot-planet-all-time-heat-records-have-been-set-all-over-the-world-in-last-week/?utm_term=.d589cae11f93
Believe whatever you wish to believe, since your mind is closed to facts. Science doesn't care. The changes that have been occuring are accelerating. Fortunately most of the world recognizes that climate change is real, that it is dangerous to human beings, and that it is being caused by the activities of man. The mechanism are well-known and tested. And if you don't believe this, you can sit in the looney bin with all your denying friends and have a good hoot as the water inches up over your shoes.
badbob85037 wrote:
Here are some facts I didn't have to be told but s... (show quote)
Jul 29, 2018 15:24:57 #
Thank you for this post, Permafrost. You have more patience with the deniers than I do.
quote=permafrost]https://slate.com/technology/2018/07/climate-change-heat-wave-whats-to-blame-for-this-summers-heat.html
We are currently in the middle of a scorching hot summer with heat records being set around the world. On July 5, it reached 124 degrees Fahrenheit in Algeria: an all-time record both for the country and the entire African continent. The following day, Los Angeles set an all-time record at 111 degrees. This past Sunday, Japan logged its hottest temperature ever amid a heat wave that’s killed 77 so far. The implication seems clear. Global warming isn’t some far-off hypothetical; It’s happening right here, right now, and we can see it in our thermometers.
But is that completely correct? Hot summer days happen all the time. Can we really say that the scorchers this summer are climate change’s fault?
Doling out blame for any single weather event is a tall order because weather is complicated. For one, it’s influenced by many factors: from planetary orbits to ocean currents to human activity. For another, it’s fickle. Yes, we’ve seen a decadeslong trend toward warmer temperatures, but it’s not constant. The East Coast of the United States, for instance, experienced an unusually cold spell this past spring—logging 1,291 record lows (and only 110 record highs) in a single week. How should we square that?
Of course, the strongest evidence for global warming isn’t isolated events like particularly hot days: A single hot day doesn’t prove global warming just like a single cold day doesn’t disprove it. Rather, it’s an ever-growing compendium of global climate data showing consistent, undeniable trends. Though climate change is slow on a human scale, it’s happening at a blistering rate from the perspective of the Earth. If allowed to go on unchecked, it will eventually have real, dire, consequences for people and for the environment. To stop it, our resolve can’t be as fickle as the weather itself.[/quote]
quote=permafrost]https://slate.com/technology/2018/07/climate-change-heat-wave-whats-to-blame-for-this-summers-heat.html
We are currently in the middle of a scorching hot summer with heat records being set around the world. On July 5, it reached 124 degrees Fahrenheit in Algeria: an all-time record both for the country and the entire African continent. The following day, Los Angeles set an all-time record at 111 degrees. This past Sunday, Japan logged its hottest temperature ever amid a heat wave that’s killed 77 so far. The implication seems clear. Global warming isn’t some far-off hypothetical; It’s happening right here, right now, and we can see it in our thermometers.
But is that completely correct? Hot summer days happen all the time. Can we really say that the scorchers this summer are climate change’s fault?
Doling out blame for any single weather event is a tall order because weather is complicated. For one, it’s influenced by many factors: from planetary orbits to ocean currents to human activity. For another, it’s fickle. Yes, we’ve seen a decadeslong trend toward warmer temperatures, but it’s not constant. The East Coast of the United States, for instance, experienced an unusually cold spell this past spring—logging 1,291 record lows (and only 110 record highs) in a single week. How should we square that?
Of course, the strongest evidence for global warming isn’t isolated events like particularly hot days: A single hot day doesn’t prove global warming just like a single cold day doesn’t disprove it. Rather, it’s an ever-growing compendium of global climate data showing consistent, undeniable trends. Though climate change is slow on a human scale, it’s happening at a blistering rate from the perspective of the Earth. If allowed to go on unchecked, it will eventually have real, dire, consequences for people and for the environment. To stop it, our resolve can’t be as fickle as the weather itself.[/quote]
Jul 29, 2018 15:33:14 #
One of the things deniers almost always disapprove of is that climate change researchers get paid for their work. Don't you get paid for your work ? It is true that there has been at least one instance some years back where researchers admitted to fudging their results. But there are many thousands of people throughout the world who are involved in one way or another in studying climate change and how to ameliorate it, and who are getting paid for working. To think that everyone among these many thousands is going to be honest is unrealistic. But there have been very, very few instqances of dishonesty. Most of the people studying climate change and working in this field are honest people or we would have had dozens of complaints from researchers themselves. To think that everyone getting a paycheck is dishonest is simply a reflection of yourself.
Jul 29, 2018 15:45:40 #
Richard94611 wrote:
b 'Historically unprecedented summer heat' will n... (show quote)
Incredible that even in this inaccurate posting warning of the effects of increased heat, nothing is mentioned about the lives saved by reducing the winter temperatures (more people are killed by cold than warmth), the increased output from farming, ad the reduction in energy output for keeping buildings and people warm. But the biggest kicker in this post is in the second paragraph where the increased temperature is admitted to be SIMULATED. IE MADE UP. BASED ON A POOR COMPUTER ESTIMATE and BIASED BEYOND BELIEF.
Why waste your time making this crap up and why should those of us who are capable of reasoning waste our time reading it?
Check out topic: There Never Was a “New Corona Virus”, There Never Was a Pandemic
Jul 29, 2018 16:04:44 #
Folks are so blind to see that's all about MONEY prime example is Al Gore !
https://www.facebook.com/LetFreedomSpeak/videos/854579488082979/
https://www.facebook.com/LetFreedomSpeak/videos/854579488082979/
Jul 29, 2018 16:25:07 #
Richard94611 wrote:
[/quote]Thank you for this post, Permafrost. You have mor... (show quote)
I would not call it patience, Richard... More like resignation.. No matter how many facts they are shown, they refuse to accept even the most obvious..
Why the refuse to do anything, why they seem to hate the earth itself, I will never figure out..
You are posting some very good information.. But the fools will not give them the smallest consideration..
Good work, thank you..
Jul 29, 2018 16:27:38 #
Richard94611 wrote:
Slate.com???? I wonder how many of the hacks that write for Slate have degrees in Atmospheric sciences and Climatology, and if any do, why in the hell are they working for that low rent garbage dump?Thank you for this post, Permafrost. You have more patience with the deniers than I do.
quote=permafrost]https://slate.com/technology/2018/07/climate-change-heat-wave-whats-to-blame-for-this-summers-heat.html
quote=permafrost]https://slate.com/technology/2018/07/climate-change-heat-wave-whats-to-blame-for-this-summers-heat.html
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
Upton Sinclair
100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
100% Predictable Fraud From Government Climate Scientists
1986 – The Year When Climate Fraud Reached A Tipping Point
All Temperature Adjustments Monotonically Increase
Alterations To Climate Data
Arctic Sea Ice Fraud
Biggest Fraud In Science History
Climate Racketeering
CRU Temperature Fraud
CU Sea Level Fraud
NOAA Global Temperature Fraud
NOAA US Temperature Fraud
ystematic Destruction Of The Temperature Record
The 100% Fraudulent Hockey Stick
Global Temperature Record Is A Smoking Gun Of Collusion And Fraud
NASA report verifies carbon dioxide actually cools atmosphere
Scientists are solving the mystery of Earth’s thermostat
Jul 29, 2018 16:42:02 #
You want some references to URLs where they claim the earth is flat ? There are plenty. That's about the level of the information you are trying to push. No go, Blade Runner. The facts are the facts, and no matter what you post, the effect of your posts is minimal, and most of the leaders of the world will continue to fight global warming with whatever strategies they find possible. You are in the nitwit minority.
Blade_Runner wrote:
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Jul 29, 2018 16:54:33 #
R.D.Dukes
Loc: Southern Arizona & central Washington
As a former NASA Scientist we proved long ago that any variation in temperatures have very little to do with man's use of fissile fuels. The made up climate change is for the purpose of gaining riches, Al Gore has gone from millionaire to billion. Lies are lies are lies or Democrats.
Jul 29, 2018 17:07:31 #
I don't think you proved anything, based on your comment that this was "long ago." Much more is known now than was known "long ago." Climate change can certainly help scientists support themselves with research grants, or even to gain a lot of money if the grants are right.
Tell us more about this "proof" that any variation in temperatures has little to do with man's use of fissile (sic) fuels. Since the evidence is overwhelming and comes from many, many sources that fossil fuels are one of the main causes of climate change, and since the mechanisms are very well known and bourne out by research and experiment, I simply doubt your statemenets. To put it kindly, I think you are fibbing.
Tell us more about this "proof" that any variation in temperatures has little to do with man's use of fissile (sic) fuels. Since the evidence is overwhelming and comes from many, many sources that fossil fuels are one of the main causes of climate change, and since the mechanisms are very well known and bourne out by research and experiment, I simply doubt your statemenets. To put it kindly, I think you are fibbing.
R.D.Dukes wrote:
As a former NASA Scientist we proved long ago that any variation in temperatures have very little to do with man's use of fissile fuels. The made up climate change is for the purpose of gaining riches, Al Gore has gone from millionaire to billion. Lies are lies are lies or Democrats.
Jul 29, 2018 17:10:40 #
I might ask who "we" is. Were you one of the people who "proved" it was a fraud. What was your involvement in NASA, and did it have anything to do with cimate change, or were you just designing stairs people could use to get into spaceships ? And approximately what year did NASA allegedly prove what you claim ?
R.D.Dukes wrote:
As a former NASA Scientist we proved long ago that any variation in temperatures have very little to do with man's use of fissile fuels. The made up climate change is for the purpose of gaining riches, Al Gore has gone from millionaire to billion. Lies are lies are lies or Democrats.
Jul 29, 2018 17:14:05 #
You find it incredible that people don't go off subject and talk about things other than the facts that climate change is real, is often a danger to mankind, and is caused primarily by the activities of man ? Go back to middle school.
boofhead wrote:
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