alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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son of witless,
Once in office, Bush 1 found it very challenging to keep his promise. Why? Because, as is typical of GOP politicians, the Bush campaign's figures had been based on the assumption that the high economic growth of the late 1980s would continue throughout his time in office. And, that he could claim credit for it, just like Trumpet is doing. Instead, a recession began. We’ll see who takes credit for the next recession. Many economists say another one is on its way, VERY SOON!

By 1990, rising budget deficits, fueled by a growth in mandatory spending and a declining economy, began to greatly increase the federal deficit. The Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Balanced Budget Act mandated that the deficit be reduced, or else mandatory cuts, unpalatable to BOTH Republicans and Democrats, would be made. Reducing this deficit was a difficult task. New cuts, of any substance, would have to come either from entitlement programs, such as Medicare or Social Security, or from defense spending. Nowadays, the GOPTPers heavily FAVOR cutting any and all “mandatory spending.” However, nowadays the GOPTPers do NOT include defense spending.

The budget for the next fiscal year proved far more difficult. Bush initially presented Congress a proposed budget containing steep spending cuts and no new taxes, but congressional Democrats dismissed this out of hand. Negotiations began, but it was clear little progress could be made without a compromise on taxes. Richard Darman, who had been appointed head of the Office of Management and Budget, and White House Chief of Staff, John H. Sununu, both felt such a compromise was necessary. Other prominent Republicans had also come out in favor of a tax increase, including Gerald Ford, Paul O'Neill, and Lamar Alexander.

At the end of June, 1990, Bush released a statement stating that, "... it is clear to me that both the size of the deficit problem and the need for a package that can be enacted require all of the following: entitlement and mandatory program reform, tax revenue increases, growth incentives, discretionary spending reductions, orderly reductions in defense expenditures, and budget process reform."

The key element was the reference to "tax revenue increases" now being up for negotiation. An immediate furor followed the release. The headline of the New York Post the next day read "Read my Lips: I Lied." Initially some argued that "tax revenue increases" did not necessarily mean tax increases. For example, he could mean that the government could work to increase taxable income. However, Bush soon confirmed that tax increases were on the table.

To me, this showed Bush 1 was more willing to admit a mistake and that his promise can no longer be kept. It, also, shows Bush 1 has far more positive character in one fo his fingernail clippings than Trumpet has in his entire body. I have no doubt that Trumpet would use his typical M.O. of choosing to lie to cover his many mistakes, then, double-down on his lies. Then, he would blame the Dems for not being willing to bow to his demands and cut spending only on the social programs while INCREASING spending on defense. Immediately afterwards, he would accuse the “Fake Media” of portraying him in a bad light, saying nothing about his own words and actions being the cause of the reported news.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I wonder how many non-Trump people we have who have always considered what we would have been like with Hillary sitting in that chair. I decided in 2000 that if she ever got nominated by anybody I would have to vote for anyone else running. I wanted Carson just like I wanted the other black man in 2008. Other means a black man that couldn't get the Republican nomination that year. My son was really mad and blamed the Dems for all the lies, etc about him and I had a real time explaining that Herman was dug into by the establishment Republicans who just didn't want him.

I had said for years that I would never vote for Hillary and I didn't. I did find that I had to vote for Trump to avoid the bitch but it wasn't so hard and I am very satisfied with him so far as too many of his lies came from the establishment and the Demoncraps. Oh well, they keep talking about his thousands of lies that most of them didn't come out of his mouth.

son of witless

I was not being critical of President Bush. I was describing the political reasons for why he lost to Bill Clinton. Even when he ran against Reagan in the Republican primaries I was a Bush supporter. I know what the Democrats did to defame him. My point was that no matter how angry you are with your party, and I include the DNC too, it is foolish to not support it. Again all of us complain about the two parties. Well I am sorry, two is all you are going to get, Period.

The path to get what you want is in the primaries. Examples. President Trump. He could have gone Ross Perot third party. He did not. He won the Republican Party nomination and is running the country. On the Democrat side, now that Hillary and whatever faction she represented have gone up in flames, the Bernie crazies are taking over the party. They did not not split off into their own party. If there are any sane people left in the DNC they will have to rip that party out of the hands of the Marxists. I do not see it occurring.

Back to the Republicans. Trump will dominate the RNC at least until 2020. If he wins reelection it will be 2024. For those in the RNC who really cannot stand Trump, well guys you need to be ready to take over the party 2024. Until then, if you do not support Trump you will get a lot worse in the form of the next Obama. Come on. Is Trump really so horrible ??????????????????????????????????????????

debeda

Most of his "lies" are things like "they wiretapped Trump tower" and he was called a paranoid liar... NOT lie maybewromg term, but he was under surveillance) a lot of the so called "lies" are things Prez Trump has said that later proved to be true.

Cripple

Did you read what I wrote? Well, I'm still reading, there has to be an option not previously considered. I must agree that our history is not one to admire. I know of the checks & balances having two political parties.
Please read a quick post I'm working on. Thinking of a title between old & boring. Something like that. Republicans have a bad history, Democrats have a bad history. Well, no rambling from me any more.

Cripple

Thanks for your thoughts. I've learned to handle it. When anyone goes looking for stupid people, well God must love stupid people since there are so many of them, lol.

I've lived in So. Arizona most my life. Republicans, under Bush senior, Bush directed that anyone whose property was found with drugs or aliens illegally crossing the border would have their land seized. WOW, what a bunch of "pissed-off" people around here. See some rancher would only have to own/lease the land that has some landmark. The plane flies over, drops the drugs. Someone picks-up the drugs at a later time or even is there waiting. Some ranchers actually paid people who rode horseback & in a jeep armed, mostly 30-30's, to stop the drugs. Walls really mean nothing. It's a 1st century answer to a 21st century problem. Driving the drugs/guns over the border via truck (even pick-up) stopped about 20 years ago. If there are "bad people" coming over they come in comfort, via plane under assumed name & such. The drugs & people coming into our country is by boat. The drugs that are seized via the border over the ground (people on foot) is minor & meant to distract from where drugs are really coming in. In their eyes drugs are worth more than people, they're flown over the border. The people coming over on-foot are those who, 90% in my experience, are more honest & hard working than U.S. society. They are running away from a terrible economy, corruption and in about half the cases, well more than half the last few years, an actual war-zone. I've been in a war-zone before and the direct stories I heard all those years ago is a war-zone. If someone who came across the border on-foot who turns into a bad-guy (MS 13 example) is a "foot soldier" strange they are actually proud they are in a gang. I guess all that time to get a Masters in Criminal Justice taught me too much. The only Marines stationed at Fort Huachuca are the ones who man this balloon thing that runs radar from up in the sky to the ground. By the time they can log in a plane flying across our border, report it, the plane is back in Mexico air space. You should see what that Mexican Air Force does to these planes, shoot them down, better shots than we are. Regardless, the directive to seize property was reversed. These ranchers were law-abiding then, just caught in the middle & Bush senior agreed, after a while.

So much I could tell you. Unfortunately, what the rest of the country is being told about the border is far, FAR from what is actually happening.
See, in those days I traveled a lot all over So. Arizona from Yuma, Nogales to Douglas. I'm full of it (lol) means a lot of stories I could tell you.