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Obama Was Born in Kenya says Kenyan Senate Leader - Here’s Proof
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Jul 26, 2018 10:04:43   #
boofhead
 
PeterS wrote:
You are talking about a mere technicality of a few months in age. You would be welcome to file a challenge but I doubt even your conservative supreme court would deny citizenship to a child who's mother was without question rightly an American. As for the natural born clause what if Trumps mother had been visiting Ireland when she gave birth to Donald--what is the basis of the argument that he isn't an American citizen naturally born--that that isn't the case because by accident he was born in Ireland? This is the reason Ted Cruse was confident he had a right to run for office even though he was born in Canada by an American mother and a foreign father--according to you, unnaturally born...

As for the worthlessness of the Constitution what makes it worthless is when the laws it provides are relative whether they apply to your man or only to the opposition. That's what would make it worthless nothing more...
You are talking about a mere technicality of a few... (show quote)


Just saying that the Constitution is worthless makes you incapable of judging it. It matters not what you or I think about it; it is the law of the land and does not need to be interpreted. It is clear in what it says, no matter whether you or like it or not and must be followed.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:15:22   #
boofhead
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>>All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.

Someone born of a American Mother would in turn be a Citizen with no need to go through the naturalization process ergo they would be "Natural Born Citizens" no matter how much it would upset the agenda of conservatives in this once great country. President Obama, based on the constitution, was a natural born citizen of this country irrespective of whether he was born in Kenya or here in the United States. You guys are welcome to run around in as many circles as you like but Obama was a legitimate president of these United States much to the chagrin of conservatives in this once great county....
Snip>>> b i All the sources routinely us... (show quote)


Not true, the founders specifically wrote in the requirement for natural born and they used the definition of the time which is a higher standard than simply citizen. Most people of the time were citizens by naturalization or were born in the country as a result of the creation of the USA. But the founders wanted something more for the President and they required him to be natural born which meant a citizen born of two citizens. The parents did not have to be natural born or native born they could be naturalized but they both had to be citizens at the time of the applicant's birth. We have twisted it since, which is a mistake and damages the Constitution as well as our fidelity to the laws and weakens the country. Their purpose was explained in their writings and it was to ensure loyalty. They believed that the child would follow the loyalty of the father and for proof that they were right, look at what Obama did while in office. Their fears were genuine and prescient.

IF Obama was born in Kenya he could still be a natural born citizen IF his parents were citizens of the US at the time of his birth. His Dad was not and his Mom could not pass on her citizenship because she was not qualified on the basis of residency of the US at the time. So he would not, under those conditions, even be a citizen of the US much less natural born therefore he was not qualified.

Whenever we ignore the law for expediency or personal profit we should expect to be caught out and suffer whatever consequences are appropriate. In this case, cancelation of all that Obama did as President.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:17:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Everything of Obama from birth until now is made up of lies and deceptions.
I believe he was born in Kenya. His grandmother reported that. Grandmothers don't lie.
Then another Kenya official James Orengo who was with the Kenya Parliament at that time, just reported that Obama was born in Kenya.
Birth certificate released in Kenya with his baby foot print was the real one.
The fake certificate created in Hawaii showed a very flawed report that had many inconsistencies of the real BC.

Barack Obama had fooled the American people. He was not qualified to be a president of the United States.

Until he left his office, with powerful armies to destroy this country and the succeeding president Trump. It is called the Deep State. Consisting of powerful Obama officials. Brennan CIA Director, Clapper, head of the National Intelligence. DOJ Loretta Lynch, Rod Rosenstein, FBI Mueller and followed by Comey, and all the FBI officials have been running the underground forces destroying our country. All planned out by Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Now, Judicial Watch have got all the actors of the FISA WARRANT, DOSSIER used to surveillance of the campaign election of president Trump, and until now in order to plant fake theories about the president.

Now they all came to light. Who signed the FAKE DOSSIER . Brennan, Clapper, Susan Rice, James Comey, Stzrock, Mcabe, Rosenstein.
All of them need to be locked up.
================== br Everything of Obama from bir... (show quote)


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Great Post but

SCOTUS was also involved in the Conspiracy to approve Obama’s win in that secret Closed door meeting the next day absent Scalia...

I saved it in archives... I’m trying to find it...

This Scumbag and his cohorts pulled off the biggest scam of the past 200years.

SCOTUS is guilty by association for approving his eligibility behind closed doors... That’s not their DAMN JOB !

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Jul 26, 2018 10:18:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
His mother was American. Why does it matter where he was born?


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You’re back 2 or 3 books by now Peter, you should try and catch up...

More revelations are coming on this scumbag, soon he wont be able to give speeches or show his face in public anymore.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:19:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
boofhead wrote:
If he was born in Kenya his Mom did not have the qualifications under the law as it was written at the time to pass on her citizenship therefore he was not even an American, much less Natural Born as the US Constitution requires for the office of President. Why does it matter what the Constitution says? If the Constitution has no value what does this mean to the Nation? What does this mean to our laws and culture if the Constitution is worthless? The bedrock to our legal system is the Constitution and if that goes away so too does everything else and this country becomes just what the Democrats want it to be: lawless. Of course that is exactly what they intend so I can see that it matters not a whit to them, but I can for sure tell you that it matters a lot to me.
If he was born in Kenya his Mom did not have the q... (show quote)


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That’s right and SCOTUS gave him the final Thumbs up absent Scalia in that secret meeting after he won...

SCOTUS are traitors and co conspirators.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:20:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
You are talking about a mere technicality of a few months in age. You would be welcome to file a challenge but I doubt even your conservative supreme court would deny citizenship to a child who's mother was without question rightly an American. As for the natural born clause what if Trumps mother had been visiting Ireland when she gave birth to Donald--what is the basis of the argument that he isn't an American citizen naturally born--that that isn't the case because by accident he was born in Ireland? This is the reason Ted Cruse was confident he had a right to run for office even though he was born in Canada by an American mother and a foreign father--according to you, unnaturally born...

As for the worthlessness of the Constitution what makes it worthless is when the laws it provides are relative whether they apply to your man or only to the opposition. That's what would make it worthless nothing more...
You are talking about a mere technicality of a few... (show quote)


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So you think our Constitution is worthless ? Wtf ?

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Jul 26, 2018 10:22:18   #
Sicilianthing
 
Betta wrote:
According to our Constitution both parents must be born and bred American citizens. Which would make it questionable that even little Marco Rubio was allowed to run for POTUS. Marco has not one drop of American blood. Both of his parents arrived here from Cuba and were not legal citizens when he was born on our shores. He was around 6 when they became legal citizens.

An article written in June of 2004 states "Kenyan born Obama all set for the senate." Google that and the way back machine will show you the article with his face on it. The article also discusses RINO Ryan.

Bath house whore barry is here on an expired foreign student from Indonesia visa. Both he and his sister have a COLB (certificate of live birth) from Hawaii. His sister was actually born in Indonesia. One can be from any country in the world but if you live in Hawaii for a period of one year you can get a COLB stating you were born there. They give them out like candy on halloween. Bath house whore barry never showed a legal birth certificate that we all get when born in America. He doesn't have one because he wasn't born here. He showed everybody his COLB with numerous inconsistencies in it. Joe Arpio has all the goods on barry gathered by his cold posse when they investigated the matter. DC looked the other way. They KNOW bath house whore barry is not an American citizen. He is in fact an illegal alien.
According to our Constitution both parents must be... (show quote)


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Bullseye JACKPOT !

There it IS !

And the Scumbag Co Conspirators at SCOTUS gave him the pass...

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Jul 26, 2018 10:23:56   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>>All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.

Someone born of a American Mother would in turn be a Citizen with no need to go through the naturalization process ergo they would be "Natural Born Citizens" no matter how much it would upset the agenda of conservatives in this once great country. President Obama, based on the constitution, was a natural born citizen of this country irrespective of whether he was born in Kenya or here in the United States. You guys are welcome to run around in as many circles as you like but Obama was a legitimate president of these United States much to the chagrin of conservatives in this once great county....
Snip>>> b i All the sources routinely us... (show quote)


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Wow Dude, someone is seriously working overtime to feed you this BullCrap and reprogram your thinking literally...

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Jul 26, 2018 10:24:21   #
Sicilianthing
 
Justsss wrote:
Betta, it just goes to show that some on here like little petey would prefer that we not have a Constitution. It doesn’t fit the communist way.


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Bullseye !

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Jul 26, 2018 10:24:57   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
And you would prefer that the constitution be used to violate the rights of citizens in this country all to be politically expedient in allowing you to discriminate against your political enemies. It seems you prefer Fascism over everything else...


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Again, another twisted narrative

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Jul 26, 2018 10:26:50   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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That was why Obama did not follow the constitution. He created his own called "Political Correctness." When he left, he left a very powerful underground agency called the "Deep State" that destroys all incoming Republican president. And that is Donald Trump. He ensured that Hillary must win to protect and cover his malicious destructions of the United States.

Now that underground Deep State has came to light, and all the participants involved. We now see how the Kenyan Obama destroyed the United States of America.
================ br That was why Obama did not fol... (show quote)


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Mostly he did the Cover up to protect his/their Muslim infiltration of our Agencies and Government as a whole...
This is why the Muslim Brotherhood was gaining so much strength, ranks and monetizing during Obama’s term.

This is the Blame to be laid on SCOTUS for allowing it to proceed.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:27:16   #
Sicilianthing
 
Tug484 wrote:
It matters because his dad was Muslim and that automatically disqualified him.


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Bullseye There it IS !

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Jul 26, 2018 10:33:39   #
Sicilianthing
 
Ofra Ben David wrote:
I agree with you 100% We knew about all these traitor from day one BHO left office, he weaponized our federal agencies, BHO was a fraud and a pathological liar, We do not need to find from any Kenya's PM about his birth place the fact that BHO hide all his personal Info. that along is a fact he was never born in the US, As we like to know which passport he used to travel to Pakistan? or his education record in Colombia? why he change his name? and where? why he used some one else SS.? and so much more, We know so much more about George Washington, than about this liar SOB. I am just praying he will be held accountable for all his lawlessness!
I agree with you 100% We knew about all these tra... (show quote)


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That’s right!

I will spend the rest of my days posting and exposing this Mother F’ er!

My Ancestors are turning in their graves over this, Every Patriot should be out there Fighting to expose this Muslim scumbag and all those who helped put him there including SCOTUS !

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Jul 26, 2018 10:36:48   #
kemmer
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Kenyan Senate Minority Leader: Obama Was Born in Kenya

If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?

By: DEAN GARRISON — JULY 25, 2018

In 2010 a man named James Orengo dropped a bombshell on the floor of the Kenyan Parliament:

If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?” (Emphasis Added)

Orengo carried the title of “Minister of Lands” at the time.

Since that time those parliamentary minutes have been scrubbed on more than one occasion. According to The Post and Email:

The March 25, 2010 “Hansard,” or Minutes of the Kenyan Parliament, has again disappeared from its website. The document contained a clear and unequivocal statement that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and is consequently not a “native American.”

However, Hansards from March 24 and 30, 2010 are still available and presumably all others from this year. This is the second time this document has been removed from the Parliament’s website.

The same document was unavailable for several hours on April 16 and then restored as previously reported, until today.

That report from The Post and Email was from 2010. The minutes may have been reposted and scrubbed since.

But you can not hide on the internet.

__________________________________________

Here is a saved version of those minutes courtesy of Scribbed. Orengo’s comment can be found in the middle of page 31.

Obama Born in Kenya March 25 2010 by syc1959 on Scribd

See Scribd in here:
http://fo.freedomoutpost.com/ga/click/2-255006335-5-295376-640614-4118029-712d3ecf77-d229899823

One might wonder why the minutes were scrubbed by the Kenyan government. Was it related to Orengo’s comments?

It is certainly a possibility because Obama was arguably the most powerful man in the world at the time, and he claims he was born in Hawaii.

In case you think Orengo is a political nutcase, please consider that he now holds the office of Senate Minority Leader and was a candidate for president in 2002. He is one of the most liked and influential political figures in Kenya. Here is a snippet from his WikiPedia bio:

James Aggrey Bob Orengo is a prominent Kenyan politician, activist, senator and lawyer. He has largely served as a politician and widely regarded as one of the best lawyers in Kenya.[citation needed] He is also the few lawyers who the earned a title of Senior Counsel in Kenya, after he was honoured by such with former President Kibaki.

Orengo was elected as an MP for Ugenya Constituency as a KANU candidate in a by-election in 1980, making him the youngest MP in Kenya at the time, at age 29.

He was elected as a member of parliament for Ugenya constituency in 1992 and served up to 1997, and again in 1997; thereafter he served until 2002.

In 2002, he vied for the office of the president and lost.
In 2005, he joined the Orange Democratic Movement party, teaming up with the right honourable Raila Amolo Odinga after a significant stand-off between the two following a fallout from 2002.

In 2007, he vied for the position of Ugena MP, which he won, enabling him to serve in that capacity until 2013.

He was appointed as a Minister of Lands from 2008 to 2013.

He was elected and has served in the Senate of Kenya since 2013 as senator for Siaya County.

He was not the first Kenyan politician to state that our former President was from Kenya. The following is not as concrete as Orengo’s statement, but look at these comments made in a 2008 session of Parliament, courtesy of WND:

And while none of the comments made on Nov. 5, 2008, were quite so blatant in identifying Kenya as Obama’s birthplace, the declarations nonetheless claimed the president-elect as a Kenyan.

“Could we allow … a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue

the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA?” asked the MP for the Ikolomani Constituency, Dr. Boni Khalwale.
The mood on the floor of the Parliament was so raucous that day that an extended debate occurred on whether or not to call the session off to celebrate Obama’s election victory. Several MPs were even reported missing, allegedly because they were still out partying.

Nominated MP Millie Odhiambo requested of the chair, “The president-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and color. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue.”

Eventually, the chair was compelled to issue an official statement of congratulations in the effort to move the session forward. Deputy Speaker Maalim Farah delivered the statement, in which he echoed Odhiambo’s “son of the soil” language:

“Honorable members, as you may be aware, the people of the United States of America have just had a historic election where the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama, has been elected the 44th president of the United States of America and the first African-American president in the history of that country,” said Farah, “please join me in registering and sending this House’s congratulations to the President-elect Obama for overcoming great odds to emerge victorious.”

What do you think “son of the soil” means?

That was then.

This is 2018.

Do you think it’s possible that Senator Orengo might have found the error of his claim in the last 8 years?

That does not appear to be the case.

Tim Brown recently reported that on Obama’s recent trip to Kenya he made the following statement:

Now, three years ago, I visited Kenya as the first sitting American President to come from Kenya.

That sounds very much like an admission.

Here is a video.

There were stories 3 years ago of Kenyans being offended that their native son did not spend more time with the people and guess what?

Those stories are surfacing again with this trip.

On June 30, 2018 a Kenyan website called The Star had a lot to say about Barack Obama’s then impending visit. It seems that the Luo tribe of Kenya wanted to install Obama as an elder. And look who they reached out to.

Former prime minister Raila Odinga, Siaya Senator James Orengo with the Luo council of elders at Opoda farm in Bondo
It does not appear that Senator James Orengo has changed his opinion on Obama’s birth at all. He seems to be working as a liaison of the Kenyan people in this case, or at least the Luo tribe.
Here are some interesting excerpts from The Star‘s article:

Luo Council of Elders have asked former Prime Minister Raila Odinga to help them get audience from former US president Barack Obama to install him as an Elder.

The elders resolved to engage Raila on their plans to prevent humiliations and disappointment they might encounter in the hands of security as it was the case in the previous years.

“The last time Obama visited when he was the senator we were roughed up by his security after approaching him with respect and honor to installed him as an elder,” Ongadi said.

Ongadi said as Luo Community they show respect to leaders by installing them as elders and Obama being their son they should not be locked out for the ritual.

There is that “son” word again.

Was Obama born in Kenya?

Or are Kenyans simply laying claim to him because his father was born in Kenya?

We know what Senate Minority Leader James Orengo thinks.

Article posted with permission from Dean Garrison
Kenyan Senate Minority Leader: Obama Was Born in K... (show quote)

Oh give it a rest, Sicilian. Nobody cares.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:37:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
boofhead wrote:
Not true, the founders specifically wrote in the requirement for natural born and they used the definition of the time which is a higher standard than simply citizen. Most people of the time were citizens by naturalization or were born in the country as a result of the creation of the USA. But the founders wanted something more for the President and they required him to be natural born which meant a citizen born of two citizens. The parents did not have to be natural born or native born they could be naturalized but they both had to be citizens at the time of the applicant's birth. We have twisted it since, which is a mistake and damages the Constitution as well as our fidelity to the laws and weakens the country. Their purpose was explained in their writings and it was to ensure loyalty. They believed that the child would follow the loyalty of the father and for proof that they were right, look at what Obama did while in office. Their fears were genuine and prescient.

IF Obama was born in Kenya he could still be a natural born citizen IF his parents were citizens of the US at the time of his birth. His Dad was not and his Mom could not pass on her citizenship because she was not qualified on the basis of residency of the US at the time. So he would not, under those conditions, even be a citizen of the US much less natural born therefore he was not qualified.

Whenever we ignore the law for expediency or personal profit we should expect to be caught out and suffer whatever consequences are appropriate. In this case, cancelation of all that Obama did as President.
Not true, the founders specifically wrote in the r... (show quote)


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Bullseye JACKPOT you nailed it...
they did this to prevent anyone from the Tyrannical England and it’s Crown from infiltrating with one of their own.

This is why they went to great lengths to make sure the details you posted above.

Worse is this scumbag is Muslim and The Founders Banned them from coming to America twice long ago...
Then Rule 414 came in 1952 and that is also on the books no one is enforcing...

SCOTUS gave him the pass... they are Co Conspirators of the time... this is a Stain on Kennedy’s Record... he betrayed us... Scalia Wanted nothing to do with it....

Congress is to blame also for going along with it...

Our Gov’t is broken and Hijacked by imposters...

Trump needs to Drop the Hammer and start letting the evidence fly !

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