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Jul 19, 2018 19:02:31   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
Lady Radiance, writing from the heart and years of experience on this forum, I must say that your apology merits my most humble acceptance. I believed I understood from where you were coming, yet needed you to understand from where I was coming, also. Your kind words were extraordinary in their graciousness and highly uncommon on a forum that often lends itself to criticism, hostility and disrespect towards others. In my heart and mind, you deserve both the highest praise and respect for your kindness, thoughtfulness and considerate words. Again, you humble me.

I thank you.
Lady Radiance, writing from the heart and years of... (show quote)

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Slatten, I cried for my mistakes. And I cried you've accepted my apology. I hope people understand my feelings, sensitive to the feelings of others I have hurt, especially to those who deserve the utmost respect.

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Jul 19, 2018 20:52:30   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Almost every human being is working now with the 3.8% unemployed. There are about 608 thousand jobs available waiting for qualified applicants.
Tax cuts for the low income is now taking effect. Corporate tax cuts are now showing positive effects.
How?
** When more people work, they are able to provide the supply and demand.
**More demands mean more revenue and profits to businesses thus businesses pay more taxes.
** More people working means these people now are taxpayers, instead of handouts during the Obama years. During Obama, taxpayers spend hundreds of billions of dollars to feed these people.
** Now we collect more taxes as a result because most people work.
** Fact is president Trump has been able to reduce $1 trillion of budget deficits during his 18 months of his administration.
**Our stock market is roaring high. The 501k retirement of workers are also soaring high.
**Most Muslim extremist are eliminated. Most Drug Cartels are stopped, and criminal illegals reduced.
**More Us companies are coming back to the US. Thus providing more employment and our US Treasury collect taxes when their business operation returns home.
** More benefits will show up by year-end when taxes are finalized both corporate and individual.
** President Trump appointed brilliant and constitutional SCOTUS.
** President Trump is trying to motivate Russia with a peace agreement to save our planet and for saving millions of people. This follows what God ordered his people. "Love one another as I have loved you"
And God in Genesis " Be fruitful and replenish the earth." As people get old and die new ones come in. Genesis 1:28
**President Trump asserted his authority when convinced NATO members comply with the 2% agreement which they have breached for a number of years. Now NATO will be more solvent as the members provide their fair share.

During the democrat administration these were their accomplishments.
Of course the drug addicts, MS 13 gangster, and BLM are not qualified. Their brains are so screwed up, could not handle any productive ways except killing and duping their brains. These are cultivated and protected by democrats. E.g. Democrats protect the Sanctuary cities where these criminals are hidden, and by inviting more illegal drug dealers come to America.
Democrats invited 23 million illegals costing us taxpayers more than $116 billion annually not including all the drugs they poison our people.
Democrats invited millions of Muslims including radicals and ISIS, with their main objective, to make the US for Islam, that Obama called religion of peace.

Their masterpiece are lying and corruptions. Very smart they called that.
Liberals prefer handouts. And complain to protect their baby killing.
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You've got that all right! Let this troll wallow in his second hand memes.

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Jul 20, 2018 07:22:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)


Mr. Newman is wrong on several counts. Firstly, Hillary did not "violate government guidelines vis-a-vis her emails; what she violated was Federal law, several felonies worth. That's why it pays to have someone who has made several million dollars off of his association with you as a lead prosecutor.

Then there was the little matter of Whitewater, in which Billy Boy invoked Executive Privilege to protect himself and his partner in crime.
Concerning Jared Kushner's "violations, whether real or imagined, let us not forget Billy Boy's $500,000 fee for a 15 minute speech in the Rodina, concurrent with the Uranium deal that Hillary had so much to do with.
Concerning Trump's so called "affair" with Stormy Daniels, this happened when he was a private citizen, while Billy Boy indulged his own propensity for getting his schlong wet while occupying public office, both in Arkansas and DC. Not one affair, but a steady stream of them.
Trump is "courting a dictator responsible for assassinations?" Well the Clintons didn't have to do that. Judging by the number of people associated with them who have wound up dead, they don't court assassins, they train them.
Trump is blunt, outspoken, and a lousy liar. The Clintons. Slick Willie especially, are suave, and in contrast to Trump, are consummate liars, polished and professional.

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Jul 20, 2018 07:33:11   #
Idaho
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Tell me please what has he done for the working man.


He has given me hope for the US for the first time in over 10 years. If he gets Washington waste under control and gets the criminals into jail, for all I care he can skim off half the savings made as his personal reward - we would all still be miles ahead!

MAGA

More and more proud of our president!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E8G_oKr_6H4

If there were a blue wave (virtually impossible) in November, civil war would follow soon after - and then WW3 as the deep state tries to hide its failings and let’s the U.N. come in and pick over the bones.

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Jul 20, 2018 09:59:19   #
vernon
 
jimpack123 wrote:
If you are talking about the 1 percent yes Trump is working for the working people the corrupt Trump mostly is working for his own selfish interest Wake up and vote with your head Blue wave in November



Oh I am very awake and knowing what I know now I will work hard and spend what little i can to stop this rush to communism.

I believe if we don't stop this all out attack on our republic we will destroy any vestiges of freedom that remain in this world.

Call this selfish if you want but I know to be free communism must be defeated.

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Jul 20, 2018 12:18:03   #
F.D.R.
 
Jesus Christ couldn't make the Clinton's clean !

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Jul 20, 2018 13:31:33   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)

You don't seem to realize what President Trump son in law has nothing to do with him.

Maybe you should look at the congress woman whose husband and her owned a large commercial fishing fleet and tuna canning company in California. When her husband was caught catching dolphins and canning them as tuna. Looking at severely stiff ones and possibly a little jail time his congress wife had it all swept under the rug.

That is CONFLICT OF INTREST. But as a socialists democrat they have a "get out of jail free" card.

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Jul 20, 2018 16:27:29   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
sisboombaa wrote:
Parfret, do you have my post confused with another post?
Forgive me getting off topic, but your user name reminds me of a Johnny Carson skit when, as Carnac the Magnificent, he held the envelope next to his forehead and said "SisBoomBah". "SisBoomBah" dutifully repeats Ed McMann. Johnny opens the envelope and says, "Describe the sound made when a sheep explodes". Pandemonium ensues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76wzA2A2T1Q



Again - sorry

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Jul 20, 2018 16:37:18   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Idaho wrote:
He has given me hope for the US for the first time in over 10 years. If he gets Washington waste under control and gets the criminals into jail, for all I care he can skim off half the savings made as his personal reward - we would all still be miles ahead!

MAGA

More and more proud of our president!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E8G_oKr_6H4

If there were a blue wave (virtually impossible) in November, civil war would follow soon after - and then WW3 as the deep state tries to hide its failings and let’s the U.N. come in and pick over the bones.
He has given me hope for the US for the first time... (show quote)


The deep state is the GOP who are getting sick and tired of Trump and his lies and love of Putin so the blue wave will come and because of Trump

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Jul 20, 2018 16:43:22   #
Carol Kelly
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)


I’m sorry but nobody on this planet could make the Clintons look clean.

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Jul 20, 2018 16:43:58   #
Carol Kelly
 
jimpack123 wrote:
The deep state is the GOP who are getting sick and tired of Trump and his lies and love of Putin so the blue wave will come and because of Trump


Rethink that statement.

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Jul 20, 2018 16:49:23   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Rethink that statement.

The deep state was made up by Trump many Gop want him gone but are stuck with him

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Jul 20, 2018 16:49:55   #
son of witless
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)


" But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. "

I admire your audacity in defining the rules of evidence. This must come under rule 105 in the Federal Rules of Evidence. It being admissible against President Donald Jobs. Trump for the purpose of Impeaching a lawfully elected President, but would never ever be used against anyone else, especially a Clinton.

" Rule 106 as submitted by the Supreme Court, now Rule 105 in the bill, dealt with the subject of evidence which is admissible as to one party or for one purpose, but not admissible against another party or for another purpose. "

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_105

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Jul 20, 2018 17:59:11   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
slatten49 wrote:
Rick Newman

Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 in part because voters perceived his opponent, Hillary Clinton, to be a dishonest, self-dealing phony.

Trump has now pulled off the improbable: He makes Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill look like ethical exemplars, compared with the corruption endemic in Trump’s administration.

Whatever you think of Trump, there was legitimacy to his call, back in 2016, to “drain the swamp” and bring fresh blood to Washington. Team Clinton, it turned out, was the perfect foil for Trump, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s six-figure Wall Street speech-making, her shifty explanations for violating government policy by using a private email server, and the money flowing into the Clinton Foundation from shady deal-makers undoubtedly hoping for favors once Hillary ascended to the White House.

How quaint those Clinton controversies seem, compared with the Trump presidency.

Trump’s knifing of American law-enforcement agencies, while on a podium at the Helsinki “summit” with American enemy Vladimir Putin, visibly raised the possibility that Trump might sell out his own country to appease a ruthless dictator who at this moment is working to manipulate the upcoming U.S. elections. Trump is now going even further to aid Russian attacks against the United States, by saying Russia is no longer targeting U.S. elections. Intelligence officials contradict Trump and say Russia is still at it. The president of the United States is defending a foreign government that’s attacking the United States. Right now.

Before Trump’s capitulation to Putin, the president deserved the benefit of the doubt from rational observers on the question of Russian aid for his 2016 campaign, because there was no public evidence that Trump knowingly solicited or accepted any Russian help. But Trump’s defense of Putin is now evidence in itself. What does Putin have on Trump that would compel the American president to turn on his own country? Everybody wants to know, as Trump might say.

It’s now undeniably clear that Trump puts self above country, self above party and self above voter. Is Trump’s alliance with Putin an act of self-preservation? Is it personal opportunism? Is Trump doing Putin a favor in exchange for return favors? We don’t know, yet, but if there’s a trail of illegal Russian money in the Trump presidential campaign, or in Trump’s far-flung business empire, it’s likely that special prosecutor Robert Mueller knows about it, which means the public will, eventually. It’s now obvious why Trump has been trying for months to torpedo Mueller’s investigation, even though Trump claims to have done nothing wrong: If anybody knows the real reason Trump fawns over Putin, it’s Mueller.

Americans expect politicians to be self-serving. Trump doesn’t disappoint. But if you voted for Trump as a repudiation of Billary-style greasiness, you got duped. Team Trump is abusing its power in ways Hillary Clinton couldn’t even dream of – perhaps even to cover up crimes by the man elected to run it.

Then there are the more routine forms of corruption. Three Trump Cabinet members have resigned, so far, for abusing the perks of office. Former EPA commissioner Scott Pruitt stayed on the job for months after a vast pattern of grifting emerged, as if Trump saw no problem and was simply waiting for the flap to die down. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, meanwhile, has violated government stock-ownership rules meant to prevent top officials from benefiting from their own policy decisions. It might be an honest mistake, but there’s so much mendacity in the Trump administration that it is time to presume guilt rather than innocence.

Boy Wonder Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and White House factotum, has violated government ethics guidelines by retaining ownership in his family’s real-estate company while working for the government. There’s some evidence Kushner’s privately owned company has already enjoyed favored treatment from lenders and other business partners because of Kushner’s newfound access to power. Kushner had no experience in government before Trump became president, and he’s only at the White House because he fulfills Trump’s loyalty requirement. Competence and capabilities are irrelevant.

The Treasury Department just changed disclosure rules for some political groups in a way that will allow more rich donors to contribute anonymously to organizations that lobby for favored candidates and causes. Just what America needs: more opportunities for powerful people, including foreigners, to secretly manipulate U.S. elections. There’s much more, including unqualified companies getting government business because of personal friendships with Trump officials.

Trump has Clintonized the White House, and gone much further. He certainly matches Bill Clinton’s sneaky infidelity, with his porn-star affairs and secret hush payments. Hillary Clinton alienated voters by, among other things, shirking responsibility for her mistakes and rarely taking the blame for anything gone wrong. But she was an amateur compared with Trump, who lies every day, calls his own statements “fake news” and now courts a dictator associated with numerous assassinations. Even the Clinton Foundation, which took money from every opportunist hoping to get an audience with a Clinton, didn’t stoop that low.

This isn’t a defense of Hillary Clinton. She lost the 2016 election because of her own arrogance and mistakes. But it’s time for those who thought they were getting something better, in Trump, to realize they were wrong.
Rick Newman br br Donald Trump won the presidency... (show quote)


Everyone has an opinion about that statement. I am not OK with some statements made by Trump, but he has done nothing, that has been proven to be detrimental to this country, at this present time. I pray and hope that will always be the case.

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Jul 20, 2018 18:07:06   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We're still waiting to talk about the elephant that was in the room in 2016...............................Russian operations against the US. I hear folks say " the votes were not changed or tampered with ", as though that was the only effort Russia made to screw us up. Even if that WERE the only issue, most States announced that conclusion BEFORE any forensic analysis of their electronic systems was undertaken, and many States have YET to do such an analysis.

To what extent did Russian disinformation campaigns sway American voters? Was it purely coincidental that Russian efforts and Trump campaign efforts, targeted the SAME districts at the SAME time in the very districts that gave Trump the Electoral College win? Had the Russians not conducted anti Clinton operations, would she still have lost? There are other questions that need answering, and many of them cannot be answered even if asked, and more importantly, even if some of them ARE answered, nothing much will change - except maybe making Americans a little smarter and less likely to succumb to such actions in the future.
We're still waiting to talk about the elephant tha... (show quote)


Obama knew about this try by the Russians to influence the election and even said in Sept of 2016, not verbatim "no one in their mind would think that this election could be rigged". Yet one person on his staff ordered this investigation to be ended before he spoke about this situation.
It seems that many thought ole Hillary would win handily. Was that coincidental? Hmmm!

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