You see people who arrived early and escaping repression, to be more patriotic than the people that arrived later on or even today...why is that? There are millions of legal immigrants who are just as thankful to be a US citizen and just as patriotic as your first ancestors. Maybe you do this line of thinking just to feel that you are better than others and have MORE of a right to be here, isn't that the truth? You really haven't any right to say you have any more patriotism than any other American and are no more patriotic. That is only your perception and not the truth.

Your post in defending your patriotism has nothing to do with what I spoke of. I know all about what you've mentioned and more because I do know how we obtained that territory. It has to do with the territory originally occupied by France, who then sold it to Spain and then was later able to reclaim it only to sell it to the newly independent country of North America, the United States of America, under greatest president we ever had, Thomas Jefferson who making a strategic purchase/trade with Napolean after he had acquired them from France which he had originally sold to them.

But no matter, I still would never wish anyone to shoot themselves, even in jest, that's a special kind of hateful person. But I have become accustom to the hateful right and their misdirected spewing.

Apart from what YOU INTEND. Definitions count. US citizen defined; United States citizen defined; American Citizen defined;
citizen defined; national defined. So like so many others. Myself included. define your status and those things you are not.
Do it lawfully. private is an important word. flesh, blood and soul is an important phrase, your gender and where you are.

: I am, I am known as one of the people. ron vrooman the common man, private; Ronald Charles Vrooman in cursive on my birth certificate and as trustee to the Private Membership Association RONALD CHARLES VROOMAN, THE STRAW MAN; also known as Ronald Charles Vrooman Private Attorney Generals by the United States Congress 42 U.S.C.1988 and18 U.S.C.1510 and 18 U.S.C. 1512 and to be known as “One of the People” also “Qualified Criminal Investigator” and “Federal Witness” and by unrebutted affidavit. Status identified and unrebutted. Others to be named and added later. c Status identified and unrebutted. US Navy veteran. The flesh blood and soul, a man, on Oregon, an Oregonian, a Continuous Traveler, a non-US citizen, born August 14, 1938 Reno, Nevada, with two ancestors, a father and son direct blood-line, that fought for New York in our Revolution. General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005] 503 641 8375 ronvrooman38@gmail.com

lexicographers. you miss-use words. you may define for yourself. ignorance and self determination is not conducive to communications.

Does society alone determine whether an act is wrong or not? Is that the question? NO. It is the morals of the society. What about an act that goes undiscovered except to a few? Are moral compasses of the individuals what sets the parameters of the society? The bible states. One must be killed if they wash their car on the Sabbath. I paraPHRASE BUT THE INTENT IS CORRECT.

The history lineage you speak up just in this post is enough for me to ask you to please go ahead and write some books on it I would love to read them.!!!!

I learned more from my grandfather and my father than I ever did in school about history of the wars and what really took place.... Always fascinated by it I can tell you talking to people who lived it are the best historians...

Would you mind taking a moment telling me about the home that originated in 1802? I assume passed down through families is what has kept it free of liens, loans etc. I also assume you have deed and title as well???

I only ask because when I lived in Chicago I looked at a home that was over 112years old and built on an Apple Orchard Farm....It’s design and Wood everything just flabbergasted me.... I was so in mesmerized by it I put in an offer and then went about trying to find out how much insurance would be. What I learned is insurance companies really don’t like homes that are 100 years old.. they wanted and needed to know exactly when it was built, what it was built with, and what it had as far as upgrades to the present time.... After searching for insurance companies that would insure the property I wound up with Lloyds of London no less. I would’ve paid as much in premium for the house as I did for the house... Ok, an Exaggeration here but not by much.

Apart from what YOU INTEND. Definitions count. US citizen defined; United States citizen defined; American Citizen defined;
citizen defined; national defined. So like so many others. Myself included. define your status and those things you are not.
Do it lawfully. private is an important word. flesh, blood and soul is an important phrase, your gender and where you are.

: I am, I am known as one of the people. ron vrooman the common man, private; Ronald Charles Vrooman in cursive on my birth certificate and as trustee to the Private Membership Association RONALD CHARLES VROOMAN, THE STRAW MAN; also known as Ronald Charles Vrooman Private Attorney Generals by the United States Congress 42 U.S.C.1988 and18 U.S.C.1510 and 18 U.S.C. 1512 and to be known as “One of the People” also “Qualified Criminal Investigator” and “Federal Witness” and by unrebutted affidavit. Status identified and unrebutted. Others to be named and added later. c Status identified and unrebutted. US Navy veteran. The flesh blood and soul, a man, on Oregon, an Oregonian, a Continuous Traveler, a non-US citizen, born August 14, 1938 Reno, Nevada, with two ancestors, a father and son direct blood-line, that fought for New York in our Revolution. General Delivery Beaverton, Oregon [97005] 503 641 8375 ronvrooman38@gmail.com