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Jun 20, 2018 14:17:13   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks, and I'm writing on this private response. Please have patience with me. I have the strange condition the Dr.s say imposed via my spinal problems broke in 3 places that condemned me to this damn wheelchair. I have dementia I'm told caused via my neck injury. I honestly wake and mentally totally convinced of something that clearly isn't me. There is more that goes with it, but I probably said too much already.
Thanks in advance for your patience.

Welcome to the club I had. dementia so bad I didn't know who I was or where I was for almost three months but the doctor's got me on several different medications that really help.

Semper Fi

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Jun 20, 2018 17:11:36   #
Cripple
 
Thank you, us old Jarheads gotta stick together!


old marine wrote:
Welcome to the club I had. dementia so bad I didn't know who I was or where I was for almost three months but the doctor's got me on several different medications that really help.

Semper Fi

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Jun 20, 2018 19:52:07   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Cripple wrote:
Thank you, us old Jarheads gotta stick together!


Amen brother amen


Semper Fi brother and sister's and all true American patriots every where.

Long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave forever amen and amen

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Jun 23, 2018 08:24:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple wrote:
Thank you! You certainly gave me some places to go and the blame to this privacy. I dislike Congress and those who put those into Congress who made the laws. Always willing to learn. You have a wealth of information for me to research. I look in the mirror that now I've turned into a researcher, where I don't want to be. You are correct, I can't find the answer because there is no answer, maybe Jill Stein was correct and if so, there is a lot of blame to those specific states. You are corrent!


We agree about Congress, yes, Sir, we do...!!
Stonewalling in the finest Nixon tradition they do!!!

Becoming a researcher with your talent is over the top, cripple... Much of my time is research and what is nice about it is the constant learning curve we have because of it...
In your case you could be a teacher educating these junior house representatives!!!

Please take your time in replying or not replying.. No time limits to anything anymore and that is the best...

I suspect in order to extrapolate the things you need or want it would require a subpeana to the vendor as I doubt they will voluntary give you any information.. You may wish to start with Jill Stein to see how far she went with the issue too..??

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Jun 23, 2018 08:38:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks, and I'm writing on this private response. Please have patience with me. I have the strange condition the Dr.s say imposed via my spinal problems broke in 3 places that condemned me to this damn wheelchair. I have dementia I'm told caused via my neck injury. I honestly wake and mentally totally convinced of something that clearly isn't me. There is more that goes with it, but I probably said too much already.
Thanks in advance for your patience.


Never to much when sharing...

I have all the patience in the world so leave it right there...

I wish you good health and little pain!! May your angels watch over and bless you always!! 🌹🌺

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Jun 23, 2018 08:40:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
old marine wrote:
Welcome to the club I had. dementia so bad I didn't know who I was or where I was for almost three months but the doctor's got me on several different medications that really help.

Semper Fi


Nice to share!!!

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Jun 23, 2018 11:52:18   #
Cripple
 
Strange Linda, I only checked-in on this hoping it would be you, and it was. Guess I'm lucky.

lindajoy wrote:
We agree about Congress, yes, Sir, we do...!!
Stonewalling in the finest Nixon tradition they do!!!

Becoming a researcher with your talent is over the top, cripple... Much of my time is research and what is nice about it is the constant learning curve we have because of it...
In your case you could be a teacher educating these junior house representatives!!!

Please take your time in replying or not replying.. No time limits to anything anymore and that is the best...

I suspect in order to extrapolate the things you need or want it would require a subpeana to the vendor as I doubt they will voluntary give you any information.. You may wish to start with Jill Stein to see how far she went with the issue too..??
We agree about Congress, yes, Sir, we do...!! br S... (show quote)

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Jun 23, 2018 12:31:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple, ironically as I was reading this article you immediately came to kind~~

Last year, Defcon's Voting Village made headlines for uncovering massive security issues in America's electronic voting machines. Unsurprisingly, voting-machine makers are working to prevent a repeat performance at this year's show.

According to Voting Village organizers, they're having a tough time getting their hands on machines for white-hat hackers to test at the next Defcon event in Las Vegas (held in August). That's because voting-machine makers are scrambling to get the machines off eBay and keep them out of the hands of the "good guy" hackers.

Village co-organizer Harri Hursti told attendees at the Shmoocon hacking conference this month they were having a hard time preparing for this year's show, in part because voting machine manufacturers sent threatening letters to eBay resellers. The intimidating missives told auctioneers that selling the machines is illegal -- which is false.

Electronic voting-machine manufacturers -- and anyone with a stake in keeping their flaws secret -- have oodles of reasons to prevent Defcon's Voting Village from having a repeat performance of last year's (perfectly legal) mass hacking of e-vote boxes.

Voting-machine hacking at Defcon isn't new; the conference has been joyfully cracking voting machines since 2004. The problems with voting-machine security, and the industry's unwillingness to acknowledge the problems discovered at Defcon, have ensured the voting machine hacking challenge has been coming back year after year.

In fact, the machines are so badly maintained, notoriously backdoored and easily hacked that even Defcon hackers massively stress out in forums and chat spaces about their own local and federal voting process.

As you'd expect, e-vote machine hacking was more popular than ever last year at Defcon.

But 2017's e-vote hackfest was markedly different because it was officially the first time a large-scale hack of voting machines had occurred (openly, anyway) because the act of hacking them is considered illegal. Not at Defcon's 2017's mass e-vote hack-a-palooza: That was thanks to the hard work of law professor Andrea Matwyshyn. She cleared the way for scores of hackers to legally throw everything they had at voting machines for all to see.

Voting-machine makers with anything to hide couldn't have been happy about that. If you remember the headlines after last year's Defcon, the results that came out of the Voting Village were beyond problematic. Shocking, even.

Defcon's hackers breached every single voting machine in the Village. Some in minutes; many in under an hour-and-a-half. E-vote machines were popped by hackers without insider knowledge and by hackers who didn't even specialize in voting machines.

One attendee remarked on Twitter, "Horrifyingly, some were hacked wirelessly (ie no physical access). Many hadn't had OS or basic software patches in over a decade." They added, "Others had been sold off after use, but hadn't been wiped; still had voter data on them. Didn't hear of any with any credible audit trail."

Please continue reading article its enough to make you mad seeing how little concern there is by our representstives to ensure the sacred right of our vote!!


https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/26/voting-machine-makers-are-already-worried-about-defcon/

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Jun 23, 2018 12:38:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple wrote:
Strange Linda, I only checked-in on this hoping it would be you, and it was. Guess I'm lucky.


What a nice compliment you made.. Thank You very much...

A sunrise in Belize...
A sunrise in Belize......

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Jun 23, 2018 12:42:37   #
Cripple
 
Thank you Linda. Your help well no price-tag could be applied, you're a very good person! I will concentrate on which is illegal. Reading so much my eyes are about to fall out, lol. You're doing quite well.

lindajoy wrote:
Cripple, ironically as I was reading this article you immediately came to kind~~

Last year, Defcon's Voting Village made headlines for uncovering massive security issues in America's electronic voting machines. Unsurprisingly, voting-machine makers are working to prevent a repeat performance at this year's show.

According to Voting Village organizers, they're having a tough time getting their hands on machines for white-hat hackers to test at the next Defcon event in Las Vegas (held in August). That's because voting-machine makers are scrambling to get the machines off eBay and keep them out of the hands of the "good guy" hackers.

Village co-organizer Harri Hursti told attendees at the Shmoocon hacking conference this month they were having a hard time preparing for this year's show, in part because voting machine manufacturers sent threatening letters to eBay resellers. The intimidating missives told auctioneers that selling the machines is illegal -- which is false.

Electronic voting-machine manufacturers -- and anyone with a stake in keeping their flaws secret -- have oodles of reasons to prevent Defcon's Voting Village from having a repeat performance of last year's (perfectly legal) mass hacking of e-vote boxes.

Voting-machine hacking at Defcon isn't new; the conference has been joyfully cracking voting machines since 2004. The problems with voting-machine security, and the industry's unwillingness to acknowledge the problems discovered at Defcon, have ensured the voting machine hacking challenge has been coming back year after year.

In fact, the machines are so badly maintained, notoriously backdoored and easily hacked that even Defcon hackers massively stress out in forums and chat spaces about their own local and federal voting process.

As you'd expect, e-vote machine hacking was more popular than ever last year at Defcon.

But 2017's e-vote hackfest was markedly different because it was officially the first time a large-scale hack of voting machines had occurred (openly, anyway) because the act of hacking them is considered illegal. Not at Defcon's 2017's mass e-vote hack-a-palooza: That was thanks to the hard work of law professor Andrea Matwyshyn. She cleared the way for scores of hackers to legally throw everything they had at voting machines for all to see.

Voting-machine makers with anything to hide couldn't have been happy about that. If you remember the headlines after last year's Defcon, the results that came out of the Voting Village were beyond problematic. Shocking, even.

Defcon's hackers breached every single voting machine in the Village. Some in minutes; many in under an hour-and-a-half. E-vote machines were popped by hackers without insider knowledge and by hackers who didn't even specialize in voting machines.

One attendee remarked on Twitter, "Horrifyingly, some were hacked wirelessly (ie no physical access). Many hadn't had OS or basic software patches in over a decade." They added, "Others had been sold off after use, but hadn't been wiped; still had voter data on them. Didn't hear of any with any credible audit trail."

Please continue reading article its enough to make you mad seeing how little concern there is by our representstives to ensure the sacred right of our vote!!


https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/26/voting-machine-makers-are-already-worried-about-defcon/
Cripple, ironically as I was reading this article ... (show quote)

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Jun 23, 2018 17:57:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple wrote:
Thank you Linda. Your help well no price-tag could be applied, you're a very good person! I will concentrate on which is illegal. Reading so much my eyes are about to fall out, lol. You're doing quite well.


Thank You, Cripple...

Im so torn over how haphazardly our votes can be changed and how easy it is to do so...A true mission in finding that needle in the haystack or at least whom needs to be called out over this injustice!!!
Here’s another to read when you have a moment...🙃😉 paper trails a must if there is to be no room for fraud..
Congrss passed out 350 million for the country to fix their problems which is not enough money for say just three states to buy new ones.. Some are 10 and 15 years old and one state says they need 150 million to replace machines~~pppfffttt

Why can’t the feds set up a purchase agreement with x company (ies) for a centralized buyer where all states may use and require all states to in fact use them...Right along with verifiable inspection and test results??.


Reuters) - U.S. election officials responsible for managing more than a dozen close races this November share a fear: Outdated voting machines in their districts could undermine confidence in election results that will determine which party controls the U.S. Congress.

In 14 of the 40 most competitive races, Americans will cast ballots on voting machines that do not provide a paper trail to audit voters' intentions if a close election is questioned, according to a Reuters analysis of data from six states and the Verified Voting Foundation, a non-political group concerned about verifiable elections.

These include races in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Texas, Florida, Kansas and Kentucky. Nationwide, of 435 congressional seats up for grabs, 144 are in districts where some or all voters will not have access to machines using paper records, the analysis shows. While something could go wrong in any of those districts, it is in the close elections where a miscount or a perception of a miscount matters most.

Most of the dozen-plus state and local election officials interviewed by Reuters said they worry about bad actors hacking the older electronic voting machines to alter ballots, and then being unable to verify the results because there will be no paper trail. But the officials worry most about voters losing trust in elections, because officials would not be able to visibly demonstrate that the tally was indeed accurate.

"Voter confidence is a really big thing, and it's the battle I worry about losing," said Pennsylvania's elections commissioner, Jonathan Marks. His state has four of the country’s most hotly contested elections – all of them in counties that use the older machines.

While there is no evidence that any voting machines were hacked in the 2016 presidential election of Donald Trump, there is increased anxiety, in large part because of U.S. intelligence findings that Russia actively sought, mostly through manipulation of social media, to sow distrust.

How do they know there was no evidence when no one does any checks on these machines?? And when found out there is a problem the vendor snatches them back to cover their errors...What a racket!!! holy hell they aren’t even wiped when resold....Pure deriliction!!!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1IW16Z

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Jul 16, 2018 18:26:59   #
Cripple
 
Thanks Linda, Just posted something we both worked on. The product was way too long so I made it an attachment and just posted the voting retype.
That picture of Belize is real good, fantastic I would say. Strange you chose to post the Belize, have been interested in a trip to Argentina myself.
Paul, otherwise cripple2001

lindajoy wrote:
Thank You, Cripple...

Im so torn over how haphazardly our votes can be changed and how easy it is to do so...A true mission in finding that needle in the haystack or at least whom needs to be called out over this injustice!!!
Here’s another to read when you have a moment...🙃😉 paper trails a must if there is to be no room for fraud..
Congrss passed out 350 million for the country to fix their problems which is not enough money for say just three states to buy new ones.. Some are 10 and 15 years old and one state says they need 150 million to replace machines~~pppfffttt

Why can’t the feds set up a purchase agreement with x company (ies) for a centralized buyer where all states may use and require all states to in fact use them...Right along with verifiable inspection and test results??.


Reuters) - U.S. election officials responsible for managing more than a dozen close races this November share a fear: Outdated voting machines in their districts could undermine confidence in election results that will determine which party controls the U.S. Congress.

In 14 of the 40 most competitive races, Americans will cast ballots on voting machines that do not provide a paper trail to audit voters' intentions if a close election is questioned, according to a Reuters analysis of data from six states and the Verified Voting Foundation, a non-political group concerned about verifiable elections.

These include races in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Texas, Florida, Kansas and Kentucky. Nationwide, of 435 congressional seats up for grabs, 144 are in districts where some or all voters will not have access to machines using paper records, the analysis shows. While something could go wrong in any of those districts, it is in the close elections where a miscount or a perception of a miscount matters most.

Most of the dozen-plus state and local election officials interviewed by Reuters said they worry about bad actors hacking the older electronic voting machines to alter ballots, and then being unable to verify the results because there will be no paper trail. But the officials worry most about voters losing trust in elections, because officials would not be able to visibly demonstrate that the tally was indeed accurate.

"Voter confidence is a really big thing, and it's the battle I worry about losing," said Pennsylvania's elections commissioner, Jonathan Marks. His state has four of the country’s most hotly contested elections – all of them in counties that use the older machines.

While there is no evidence that any voting machines were hacked in the 2016 presidential election of Donald Trump, there is increased anxiety, in large part because of U.S. intelligence findings that Russia actively sought, mostly through manipulation of social media, to sow distrust.

How do they know there was no evidence when no one does any checks on these machines?? And when found out there is a problem the vendor snatches them back to cover their errors...What a racket!!! holy hell they aren’t even wiped when resold....Pure deriliction!!!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1IW16Z
Thank You, Cripple... br br Im so torn over how h... (show quote)

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Jul 16, 2018 22:31:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks Linda, Just posted something we both worked on. The product was way too long so I made it an attachment and just posted the voting retype.
That picture of Belize is real good, fantastic I would say. Strange you chose to post the Belize, have been interested in a trip to Argentina myself.
Paul, otherwise cripple2001


Hello Paul, nice to see you!! I’m going to check out your post as its peaked my interest...

Yes, Belize was so unique in its history and culture..Rather warm and high humidity though.... Like everything your body readjusted and after a couple of days of water and cave exploring all went well...The ruins simply amazing...

Don’t just think about going to Argentina, do it!!!!! I’m sure you will have an amazing time.

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