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Jun 8, 2018 10:56:32   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Morgan wrote:
So you like my idea That would work fine until private contractors complain about taking work away from the private enterprises, we can't please everyone. I think forming funds is a great idea.

Speaking of funding I've always thought if people received an unemployment check have the work for that also, at least part-time, that way they can still use their time off to look for work.
So you like my idea img src="https://static.onepo... (show quote)


Actually, I would support the death penalty for dope mules caught sneaking into this country with their poison. Maybe not pot, but most other drugs. Set up a guillotine at the border and have Pay-per-View beheadings. (Mexican viewing would of course be free of charge, as a public service.)

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Jun 8, 2018 11:24:56   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Most of the new world now is socialism or socialists, do you know that a Mexican dollar will cost you a nickel yes 5 cents to buy. All of Central America and most of South America are all in the same boat.
I lived in CA for a few years, I have seen how the governments work or don't. I seen a man start a business, he had parts sent to him from the USA to fix sewing machines, he had lots of work and was happy,
then the men in suits came and held out their hands if he did not pay them his parts never showed up anymore. Corruption is the name of all of these countries. It seems built into there culture.

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Jun 8, 2018 16:15:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, absolutely not, do not take the babies away from their mothers.

It's worth isolating this comment from the rest of your post because it shows how the value of a mother-child bond is universal. I think EVERYONE will agree with this part of your post... well, except for Trump and Sessions, obviously.

no propaganda please wrote:

Send both the mother and her children back where they came from, ILLEGALLY after all.

Are you suggesting we send them back illegally? Because grammatically, that *IS* what you are saying.

no propaganda please wrote:

For those who were children years ago when they came here, but are now adults, send them back as adults to the country of origin.

Why? According to federal law, they didn't do anything wrong.

no propaganda please wrote:

On the other hand, if they have committed a crime since getting here, then punishment and then deportation should be mandatory.

Punishment and THEN deportation? Why? American justice is supposed be a pragmatic system based on the idea of removing a potential threat from free society. That's what we have prisons for. If you're going to deport someone anyway that purpose is already being served... so, why spend the tax dollars to keep them in our prison system? Your suggestion sounds vindictive.

no propaganda please wrote:

Stop with this world without borders B*S which is, in reality a part of the Soviet one world under communism promotion, in its current stealth form.

LOL - where are the Martians in all this no pro? Don't you have Martians in your fantasy?

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Jun 8, 2018 16:17:49   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Loki wrote:
Actually, I would support the death penalty for dope mules caught sneaking into this country with their poison. Maybe not pot, but most other drugs. Set up a guillotine at the border and have Pay-per-View beheadings. (Mexican viewing would of course be free of charge, as a public service.)

LOL - were you one of those zit-faced kids in school that spend class drawing pictures of stickmen killing the teachers and hanging the principal?

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Jun 8, 2018 18:06:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?

Last month, Steven Wagner, an official with the department of health and human services, told a Senate committee that his agency had “lost track” of 1,475 immigrant children who had been seized after crossing the US-Mexican border; some of these kids, it was feared, had been turned over to human traffickers.
That also:

The ACLU and the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School have also charged that US border guards beat and abused migrant children, and threatened them with sexual violence.

and...that a Honduran mother had been separated from her 18-month-old toddler for two months. We’ve seen images of children caged in cells like stray puppies at a shelter; two, three and four year old children huddled on cots under thin Mylar blankets; of weeping parents embracing their terrified children while immigration officers wait to grab the tearful kids.

One has to ask is this who we are? Is this who Lady Liberty shines her torch for? Wasn't this the country held out its arms to the downtrodden seeking refuge? now we pull children away from mothers, or family, as the Nazis did, pulling families apart?

Is this the way to go? or who we've become? There must be another way.

We use to be the country known for its humanitarian ways now we have the UN and foreign countries objecting to our inhumane practices. Welcome to the Trump administration and making us great again.
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as... (show quote)


Hi Morgan... I'm glad you posted this. It's a huge issue.

Actually, if you look at our history, you will find a LOT of atrocities. America herself has always been a struggle between good and evil. You and I have had the good fortune to live in America during the hegemony because that's when a nation has so many advantages that even the evil can be well-behaved and still get what they want. But we are entering a new era where we are loosing that hegemonic advantage and good behavior isn't working so well for the evil anymore.

Trump represents that evil. He wants to ditch a lot of the global institutions set up by the American hegemony and revert to more defiant policies. To secure his position in our democracy he is taking the fascist route by tapping into the undercurrents of bigotry and extreme hatred. Immigration policies have always been a favorite campaign for fascist upstarts.

As I'm sure you've noticed, OPP has it's own fair share of posters who love to hate immigrants. That's why responses like no-pro when he said immigrants who commit crimes should be punished THEN deported tend to focus more on punishing them than solving any problems.

But I gotta say... this policy of ripping families apart goes beyond what I would think even the most deplorable Americans would accept. I mean it happened under Obama, but it was never a policy! In fact, that's why he set up the DACA policy to try and keep immigrant families together. But Trump is making the separation of children from their parents a policy! Even after it was discovered that his administration lost 1500 children!

Another stat that bothers me, is that since Trump came in, deportations have actually decreased while arrests have increased. That means they are filling prisons with people. And they are privatized prisons, with a profit motive and NO constitutional obligations. I don't know if you are following the prison-industrial complex but if you are then you know... those immigrants are being used as slaves.

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Jun 8, 2018 18:20:47   #
Mikeyavelli
 
straightUp wrote:
Hi Morgan... I'm glad you posted this. It's a huge issue.

Actually, if you look at our history, you will find a LOT of atrocities. America herself has always been a struggle between good and evil. You and I have had the good fortune to live in America during the hegemony because that's when a nation has so many advantages that even the evil can be well-behaved and still get what they want. But we are entering a new era where we are loosing that hegemonic advantage and good behavior isn't working so well for the evil anymore.

Trump represents that evil. He wants to ditch a lot of the global institutions set up by the American hegemony and revert to more defiant policies. To secure his position in our democracy he is taking the fascist route by tapping into the undercurrents of bigotry and extreme hatred. Immigration policies have always been a favorite campaign for fascist upstarts.

As I'm sure you've noticed, OPP has it's own fair share of posters who love to hate immigrants. That's why responses like no-pro when he said immigrants who commit crimes should be punished THEN deported tend to focus more on punishing them than solving any problems.

But I gotta say... this policy of ripping families apart goes beyond what I would think even the most deplorable Americans would accept. I mean it happened under Obama, but it was never a policy! In fact, that's why he set up the DACA policy to try and keep immigrant families together. But Trump is making the separation of children from their parents a policy! Even after it was discovered that his administration lost 1500 children!

Another stat that bothers me, is that since Trump came in, deportations have actually decreased while arrests have increased. That means they are filling prisons with people. And they are privatized prisons, with a profit motive and NO constitutional obligations. I don't know if you are following the prison-industrial complex but if you are then you know... those immigrants are being used as slaves.
Hi Morgan... I'm glad you posted this. It's a huge... (show quote)

You commit a crime and you go to jail without your family. Kids too.
Illegals are just that, and they should be sent back to Merdahole Meheeko where they're from. Or wherever these animals came from. Time to clean up.
Oh, there's a place called Benaayzooayla that needs you. It's perfect for you. All Spanish speaking Socialists looking for more money.

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Jun 8, 2018 18:46:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - were you one of those zit-faced kids in school that spend class drawing pictures of stickmen killing the teachers and hanging the principal?


Were you one of those zit faced kids dealing heroin to their classmates? No wonder you side with the wetbacks.

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Jun 8, 2018 18:49:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - where are the Martians in all this no pro? Don't you have Martians in your fantasy?





"It's worth isolating this comment from the rest of your post because it shows how the value of a mother-child bond is universal. I think EVERYONE will agree with this part of your post... well, except for Trump and Sessions, obviously."

Then you will agree that it is wrong to separate criminal mothers from their children. After all, the bond is universal, so if the mother is a crack head murderess, then she should not be separated from her child. Children of US citizen criminals are separated from their parents every day. Where is your outrage when that happens? Oh, that's right, they're criminals of the wrong nationality.

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Jun 8, 2018 19:56:14   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You commit a crime and you go to jail without your family. Kids too.
Illegals are just that, and they should be sent back to Merdahole Meheeko where they're from. Or wherever these animals came from. Time to clean up.
Oh, there's a place called Benaayzooayla that needs you. It's perfect for you. All Spanish speaking Socialists looking for more money.

I like it where I am. But I will do everything I can to make sure as many people from Benaayzooayla come here and take your job. Because to be honest, I don't like my burgers flipped by racist assholes that are too hateful to learn basic laws, like the fact that childhood arrivals crossing the border are not actually breaking the law.

When you grow up maybe we can talk about that.

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Jun 8, 2018 20:05:29   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
I like it where I am. But I will do everything I can to make sure as many people from Benaayzooayla come here and take your job. Because to be honest, I don't like my burgers flipped by racist assholes that are too hateful to learn basic laws, like the fact that childhood arrivals crossing the border are not actually breaking the law.

When you grow up maybe we can talk about that.


When these childhood arrivals are teenage gang bangers they need to stay on their own side of the border. When they arrive with their parents they are separated from those parents just like the children of American criminals. I see you still have trouble with the concept of illegal. Also with the definition of racist. In all fairness, you seem to have the concept of asshole down pat.
If these illegals don't want their kids taken away, then stay the hell out.

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Jun 8, 2018 20:10:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Show me the source that children crossing the border are not breaking the law.... Thank you

straightUp wrote:
I like it where I am. But I will do everything I can to make sure as many people from Benaayzooayla come here and take your job. Because to be honest, I don't like my burgers flipped by racist assholes that are too hateful to learn basic laws, like the fact that childhood arrivals crossing the border are not actually breaking the law.

When you grow up maybe we can talk about that.

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Jun 8, 2018 20:31:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Loki wrote:
Were you one of those zit faced kids dealing heroin to their classmates? No wonder you side with the wetbacks.


He could have been one of those kids who was shunned by the others for constantly poking his finger in cat behinds..

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Jun 8, 2018 20:38:52   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Loki wrote:
"It's worth isolating this comment from the rest of your post because it shows how the value of a mother-child bond is universal. I think EVERYONE will agree with this part of your post... well, except for Trump and Sessions, obviously."

Then you will agree that it is wrong to separate criminal mothers from their children. After all, the bond is universal, so if the mother is a crack head murderess, then she should not be separated from her child. Children of US citizen criminals are separated from their parents every day. Where is your outrage when that happens? Oh, that's right, they're criminals of the wrong nationality.
i "It's worth isolating this comment from th... (show quote)

I didn't say it's wrong to separate a mother and child. I said the value of a mother-child bond is universal. When are you going to learn how to read?

As for all those U.S. citizen criminals, my opinion depends on their crime and to a larger extend the welfare of the child. If the mother is murderess she should probably be separated from her child, but a lot of U.S. citizens get arrested for stupid shit like possession of marijuana and that's no reason to separate a mother from her child... nor is crossing a border. Also, children that get taken away from their incarcerated parents by the courts tend to be cared for, not abused and raped by disgusting ICE officers, handed over to traffickers or just lost.

Try all you want Loki, but this one turd you can't polish. Morgan is right, the whole world is watching this and trump is turning America into a shithole.

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Jun 8, 2018 21:01:48   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
I didn't say it's wrong to separate a mother and child. I said the value of a mother-child bond is universal. When are you going to learn how to read?

As for all those U.S. citizen criminals, my opinion depends on their crime and to a larger extend the welfare of the child. If the mother is murderess she should probably be separated from her child, but a lot of U.S. citizens get arrested for stupid shit like possession of marijuana and that's no reason to separate a mother from her child... nor is crossing a border. Also, children that get taken away from their incarcerated parents by the courts tend to be cared for, not abused and raped by disgusting ICE officers, handed over to traffickers or just lost.

Try all you want Loki, but this one turd you can't polish. Morgan is right, the whole world is watching this and trump is turning America into a shithole.
I didn't say it's wrong to separate a mother and c... (show quote)


Exaggerate much? Regarding the universality of the mother child bond, if said bond is universal as you claim, then the crime should not matter. Universal does not lend itself well to describing conditional separations such as you mention. Your own reading comprehension could use a little going over.
What sort of abuse are you speaking of? You mean the poor little darlings in cages in 2014 when those pictures were taken? I do believe your hero Obama "PRAISE HIM! HALLELUJAH!" was president during that period.
Speaking of polishing turds, you should try it. You haven't done very well with apples.

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Jun 8, 2018 23:37:47   #
Mikeyavelli
 
straightUp wrote:
I like it where I am. But I will do everything I can to make sure as many people from Benaayzooayla come here and take your job. Because to be honest, I don't like my burgers flipped by racist assholes that are too hateful to learn basic laws, like the fact that childhood arrivals crossing the border are not actually breaking the law.

When you grow up maybe we can talk about that.

In Arabic or Spanish? Your preferred languages?
Any illegal needs to go home. The law includes their biological mistakes. Ain't my responsibility.
Benaayzooayla needs you. Until your money runs out.
Not too many raysiss Schumerholes flip burgers. Common Core Graduates flip burgers and subsist on SNAP cards.

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