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May 21, 2018 20:24:11   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
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What’s Wrong With Those Texans?

That’s the question the Associated Press asks, following the school shootings in Santa Fe: “School shooting may not bring change to gun-loving Texas.”

Guns are so hard-wired into Texas culture that last week’s deadly rampage at Santa Fe High School is considered unlikely to result in any significant restrictions on access to weapons in the Lone Star State.
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[T]he state’s 20-year dominance by the Republican Party all but guarantees the meetings will be dominated by calls to boost school security and “harden” campuses — an idea backed by the NRA — instead of demands for gun restrictions, said Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University.

What’s interesting is that the AP never hints at what “gun restrictions” the State of Texas ought to adopt. Indeed, it becomes obvious that the AP reporter, speaking for liberals and the mainstream of the Democratic Party, doesn’t much care: any restrictions will do.

In the Santa Fe case, the murderer, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, was too young to buy firearms, so tightening of firearms purchasing procedures wouldn’t have applied to him. The guns he used belonged to his father who, as far as we know, purchased them legally and would have been able to do so under any regime that has been proposed. The AP actually admits that the “gun restrictions” advocated by the Left would have done no good:

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, is jailed on murder charges in Friday’s attack. Authorities said the Santa Fe High student opened fire with his father’s shotgun and .38-caliber handgun.

Gun control advocates around the country have long pressed for such measures as expanded background checks and a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, but such measures would probably have had no effect on the Santa Fe High shooting.

“Probably?” Those measures certainly would have been ineffective. But it doesn’t matter: in the AP’s eyes, resistance on the part of Texans to taking futile steps is blameworthy, while the one action that probably will work, most of the time–guarding and hardening schools as potential targets–is dismissed as “backed by the NRA.”

What the AP essentially admits is that virtue signaling is an end in itself, divorced from any intent to actually achieve any positive result. But then, why, exactly, is it virtue?



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May 21, 2018 21:18:46   #
Weaver
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/whats-wrong-with-those-texans.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29

What’s Wrong With Those Texans?

That’s the question the Associated Press asks, following the school shootings in Santa Fe: “School shooting may not bring change to gun-loving Texas.”

Guns are so hard-wired into Texas culture that last week’s deadly rampage at Santa Fe High School is considered unlikely to result in any significant restrictions on access to weapons in the Lone Star State.
***
[T]he state’s 20-year dominance by the Republican Party all but guarantees the meetings will be dominated by calls to boost school security and “harden” campuses — an idea backed by the NRA — instead of demands for gun restrictions, said Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University.

What’s interesting is that the AP never hints at what “gun restrictions” the State of Texas ought to adopt. Indeed, it becomes obvious that the AP reporter, speaking for liberals and the mainstream of the Democratic Party, doesn’t much care: any restrictions will do.

In the Santa Fe case, the murderer, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, was too young to buy firearms, so tightening of firearms purchasing procedures wouldn’t have applied to him. The guns he used belonged to his father who, as far as we know, purchased them legally and would have been able to do so under any regime that has been proposed. The AP actually admits that the “gun restrictions” advocated by the Left would have done no good:

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, is jailed on murder charges in Friday’s attack. Authorities said the Santa Fe High student opened fire with his father’s shotgun and .38-caliber handgun.

Gun control advocates around the country have long pressed for such measures as expanded background checks and a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, but such measures would probably have had no effect on the Santa Fe High shooting.

“Probably?” Those measures certainly would have been ineffective. But it doesn’t matter: in the AP’s eyes, resistance on the part of Texans to taking futile steps is blameworthy, while the one action that probably will work, most of the time–guarding and hardening schools as potential targets–is dismissed as “backed by the NRA.”

What the AP essentially admits is that virtue signaling is an end in itself, divorced from any intent to actually achieve any positive result. But then, why, exactly, is it virtue?

No one wants to address the real problem in these situations. When I was a kid you never heard of situations like are happening in America today. Why don’t we look at the differences in yesteryears and today. One; a large percent of people in America went to some kind of Christian Church. Most schools began the day with a prayer. Most of the rules that govern the school day were principals taught from the Christian Bible. Many had the Ten Commandments on the wall some place. If you got in trouble at school and were corrected at school, I also got corrected at home. Our courts and many of our law were a reflection of the teachings of our Savior and the Holy Scriptures. The Ten Commandments hung some where in or on or court building. Everyone knew the Golden Rule. Most were taught to obey the governing authority’s. A big difference from what I see displayed on the TV new today. It’s not the guns that’s the problem but the problems in the home, school and courts. Taking guns away want solve the problems as long as Man’s morals remain the same. There is always another way to do the dastardly deed.


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May 21, 2018 21:40:23   #
rumitoid
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/whats-wrong-with-those-texans.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29

What’s Wrong With Those Texans?

That’s the question the Associated Press asks, following the school shootings in Santa Fe: “School shooting may not bring change to gun-loving Texas.”

Guns are so hard-wired into Texas culture that last week’s deadly rampage at Santa Fe High School is considered unlikely to result in any significant restrictions on access to weapons in the Lone Star State.
***
[T]he state’s 20-year dominance by the Republican Party all but guarantees the meetings will be dominated by calls to boost school security and “harden” campuses — an idea backed by the NRA — instead of demands for gun restrictions, said Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University.

What’s interesting is that the AP never hints at what “gun restrictions” the State of Texas ought to adopt. Indeed, it becomes obvious that the AP reporter, speaking for liberals and the mainstream of the Democratic Party, doesn’t much care: any restrictions will do.

In the Santa Fe case, the murderer, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, was too young to buy firearms, so tightening of firearms purchasing procedures wouldn’t have applied to him. The guns he used belonged to his father who, as far as we know, purchased them legally and would have been able to do so under any regime that has been proposed. The AP actually admits that the “gun restrictions” advocated by the Left would have done no good:

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, is jailed on murder charges in Friday’s attack. Authorities said the Santa Fe High student opened fire with his father’s shotgun and .38-caliber handgun.

Gun control advocates around the country have long pressed for such measures as expanded background checks and a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, but such measures would probably have had no effect on the Santa Fe High shooting.

“Probably?” Those measures certainly would have been ineffective. But it doesn’t matter: in the AP’s eyes, resistance on the part of Texans to taking futile steps is blameworthy, while the one action that probably will work, most of the time–guarding and hardening schools as potential targets–is dismissed as “backed by the NRA.”

What the AP essentially admits is that virtue signaling is an end in itself, divorced from any intent to actually achieve any positive result. But then, why, exactly, is it virtue?



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Sorry, but are you freaking nuts? Always you guys say that any measures to limit gun violence are useless "in this situation," and decide to do nothing. Yet never ponder or make an attempt to limit the violence in that situation. Sheer freaking madness. I know you can't hear yourselves spotting this nonsense. You have been inculcated by a violent culture of Christian righteous judgment and the NRA to spew this nonsense. It just rolls off your tongue. Rote insanity. You love the Wild West heritage. Hanging cattle rustlers without a trial. Criminals today getting off on technicalities (i.e., The Constitution) drive you nuts.

Sorry, I apologize again. For me, your views are so very far down the rabbit hole as to be unquestionably insane. And you can't see it! That is what drives me crazy. The sun comes up in the East; you say the West with a straight-face. You are serious. Talk about gas-lighting. Alternative reality as fact. Slaughter our children to protect the right to what?

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May 21, 2018 22:32:48   #
Big dog
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, but are you freaking nuts? Always you guys say that any measures to limit gun violence are useless "in this situation," and decide to do nothing. Yet never ponder or make an attempt to limit the violence in that situation. Sheer freaking madness. I know you can't hear yourselves spotting this nonsense. You have been inculcated by a violent culture of Christian righteous judgment and the NRA to spew this nonsense. It just rolls off your tongue. Rote insanity. You love the Wild West heritage. Hanging cattle rustlers without a trial. Criminals today getting off on technicalities (i.e., The Constitution) drive you nuts.

Sorry, I apologize again. For me, your views are so very far down the rabbit hole as to be unquestionably insane. And you can't see it! That is what drives me crazy. The sun comes up in the East; you say the West with a straight-face. You are serious. Talk about gas-lighting. Alternative reality as fact. Slaughter our children to protect the right to what?
Sorry, but are you freaking nuts? Always you guys ... (show quote)

There you go, blaming the NRA again. Do you have any idea who the NRA is ? It's not a political party, it's not a foreign entity, it's not some grassroots bunch of hillbillies. IT'S THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ! Get with the program OR just move to Venezuela. PLEASE.

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May 21, 2018 22:43:35   #
rumitoid
 
Big dog wrote:
There you go, blaming the NRA again. Do you have any idea who the NRA is ? It's not a political party, it's not a foreign entity, it's not some grassroots bunch of hillbillies. IT'S THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ! Get with the program OR just move to Venezuela. PLEASE.


The Real American People in the NRA are 80% for reasonable gun restrictions. It is the heads of the NRA that are bonkers for violence. Ollie North is certifiable.

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May 21, 2018 22:49:42   #
Weaver
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/whats-wrong-with-those-texans.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29

What’s Wrong With Those Texans?

That’s the question the Associated Press asks, following the school shootings in Santa Fe: “School shooting may not bring change to gun-loving Texas.”

Guns are so hard-wired into Texas culture that last week’s deadly rampage at Santa Fe High School is considered unlikely to result in any significant restrictions on access to weapons in the Lone Star State.
***
[T]he state’s 20-year dominance by the Republican Party all but guarantees the meetings will be dominated by calls to boost school security and “harden” campuses — an idea backed by the NRA — instead of demands for gun restrictions, said Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University.

What’s interesting is that the AP never hints at what “gun restrictions” the State of Texas ought to adopt. Indeed, it becomes obvious that the AP reporter, speaking for liberals and the mainstream of the Democratic Party, doesn’t much care: any restrictions will do.

In the Santa Fe case, the murderer, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, was too young to buy firearms, so tightening of firearms purchasing procedures wouldn’t have applied to him. The guns he used belonged to his father who, as far as we know, purchased them legally and would have been able to do so under any regime that has been proposed. The AP actually admits that the “gun restrictions” advocated by the Left would have done no good:

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, is jailed on murder charges in Friday’s attack. Authorities said the Santa Fe High student opened fire with his father’s shotgun and .38-caliber handgun.

Gun control advocates around the country have long pressed for such measures as expanded background checks and a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, but such measures would probably have had no effect on the Santa Fe High shooting.

“Probably?” Those measures certainly would have been ineffective. But it doesn’t matter: in the AP’s eyes, resistance on the part of Texans to taking futile steps is blameworthy, while the one action that probably will work, most of the time–guarding and hardening schools as potential targets–is dismissed as “backed by the NRA.”

What the AP essentially admits is that virtue signaling is an end in itself, divorced from any intent to actually achieve any positive result. But then, why, exactly, is it virtue?

The problem is not guns but the lack of respect for life which speakers of a persons morals. America has taken the guide book and it’s teachings out of the public arena. This leaves a spiritual void across America which transfers into a lack of self control. Man can always find something to use to do their dastardly deeds.


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May 22, 2018 10:06:01   #
bahmer
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Real American People in the NRA are 80% for reasonable gun restrictions. It is the heads of the NRA that are bonkers for violence. Ollie North is certifiable.


That is pure bullshit and you know it. The NRA would never go for this kind of malarkey. Why don't you be honest for a change what you really want is complete and total gun confiscation like in the UK and Australia and until you get you will be constantly ranting about something to get it. You on the left are so into gun confiscation that all you do is concentrate on confiscation. If there is one gun left after your laws it will be one gun to many right?

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May 22, 2018 19:51:16   #
teabag09
 
Rumi is to be ignored, he talks about our insanity yet never reads his own shit, which in and of it's self is true insanity. Mike
bahmer wrote:
That is pure bullshit and you know it. The NRA would never go for this kind of malarkey. Why don't you be honest for a change what you really want is complete and total gun confiscation like in the UK and Australia and until you get you will be constantly ranting about something to get it. You on the left are so into gun confiscation that all you do is concentrate on confiscation. If there is one gun left after your laws it will be one gun to many right?

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