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May 20, 2018 15:45:56   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Nickolai wrote:
In 1914 the population of Palestine was 600,000 of which 94 % were Arab the dominate race for the previous couple thousand years there were 82,000 Christian Arabs and 59,000 Jews. The Zionist movement began in 1897's by Theodor Herzl. Herzl formed the Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish immigration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state. Following the issue of the Balfour Declaration by the British a flood of immigrants into Palestine began in 11918-19 and in 1920 the first clashes began with the Arabs who were rightfully alarme that Palestine had been picked to be a national homeland for Jews. This was Arab land and here was these White eastern European yiddish speaking immigrants fron Russia and Eastermn Europe flooding into their homeland so gands od arabs began attacking them the jews fought back forming terrorist organizations such as the Haganau and the Stern Gang blowing up buildings raiding arab villaes and killing people it was tit for tat with the Jews gradually gaining the upper hand when the UN fgranted state hood to the zionist and with in 20 yuears the aravbs were doomed to third class people status
In 1914 the population of Palestine was 600,000 of... (show quote)


Muslims have been killing Jews since Mohammad got going. Pay back is a bitch.

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May 20, 2018 15:56:03   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Nickolai wrote:
Palestinians cherish their children It's the zionst that doesn't cherish any children but their own. All Palestinians don't need to be paid to protest throw rocks shoot sling shots at Zionist soldiers the symbols of their oppressors. The idea that they are paid is just propaganda from the extreme right. When people protest in the US well its George Soros paying them. A standard right wing talk


Muslims believe a martyr not only goes straight to Paradise and receives 72 virgins (or cute boys), they also can redeem 70 of their relatives. They really do. Do you see why they don't care?

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May 20, 2018 16:47:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
amadjuster wrote:

I suggest you study Islam a little more. That is exactly what they are planning.

Well ya see, I dropped out right before graduating to the evangelist version of Islam, so I'm sure you're right, I'm not as familiar as you are with that material, but I think that's where it becomes a blood lust thing, right?

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May 20, 2018 16:52:35   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
For those who seek the Truth.

Aw, that's nice.

'thing is blade - ya gotta know how to READ it. ;)

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May 20, 2018 16:53:08   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
For far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious criminal acts that the Bible promotes. The so called God of the Bible makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. This God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children. I have included references to the Biblical passages, so grab your Bible and follow along. It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!


Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.
Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself. Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it (Matthew 19:12). I don’t know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice.
And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear: It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid (Luke 16:17). There are many more quotes on this topic at my Do Not Ignore the Old Testament web page.
I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god, and wants people to do good things. I believe that most people want to do good things and behave morally. I also believe that many Christians haven’t really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church. This is understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and obscure references. Also many priests and preachers don’t like to read certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not love.
For far too long priests and preachers have comple... (show quote)
Nik, none of what you say is true. Period.

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May 20, 2018 16:54:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
Aw, that's nice.

'thing is blade - ya gotta know how to READ it. ;)
Oh, I know how to read the Bible, bubba, and more importantly why.

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May 20, 2018 16:57:33   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
straightUp wrote:
Well ya see, I dropped out right before graduating to the evangelist version of Islam, so I'm sure you're right, I'm not as familiar as you are with that material, but I think that's where it becomes a blood lust thing, right?


It’s called Jihad.

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May 20, 2018 17:03:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eagleye13 wrote:
To know the inspired Word, it helps, maybe even necessary to have the original Hebrew and Greek languages, to get to the root of it all.
All the different translations give varying meanings.
The King James with a concordance gives the ability to go to the original language.
Just the study of the word "Gentile/Ethnos" gives a good example.
The Catholic church even removed the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher, because it did not match their doctrine.
The Scofield Bible version may have an agenda behind it.
To know the inspired Word, it helps, maybe even ne... (show quote)
You think I don't know how important a basic working knowledge of the original languages are?

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May 20, 2018 17:26:10   #
emarine
 
Nickolai wrote:
In 1914 the population of Palestine was 600,000 of which 94 % were Arab the dominate race for the previous couple thousand years there were 82,000 Christian Arabs and 59,000 Jews. The Zionist movement began in 1897's by Theodor Herzl. Herzl formed the Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish immigration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state. Following the issue of the Balfour Declaration by the British a flood of immigrants into Palestine began in 11918-19 and in 1920 the first clashes began with the Arabs who were rightfully alarme that Palestine had been picked to be a national homeland for Jews. This was Arab land and here was these White eastern European yiddish speaking immigrants fron Russia and Eastermn Europe flooding into their homeland so gands od arabs began attacking them the jews fought back forming terrorist organizations such as the Haganau and the Stern Gang blowing up buildings raiding arab villaes and killing people it was tit for tat with the Jews gradually gaining the upper hand when the UN fgranted state hood to the zionist and with in 20 yuears the aravbs were doomed to third class people status
In 1914 the population of Palestine was 600,000 of... (show quote)




The lands of Palestine belonged to the Ottoman empire not the non existent Palestinian people... they owned nothing... same for the indigenous Jews... they were just there...freeloaders... there were more Arabs than Jews but the Jews were there long before Islam... so who's right... mob rule or who was there first?... you figure it out & choose for the world... either way the Ottoman's lost control of all the land to the Britts & France who dictated who gets what & where ...the Jews got all of Palestine & some of Trans Jorden ... The Balfour deal but the Arabs bitched until the UN split Palestine into 1/3 of its size than splitting it in half again for the Jews & people in Palestine... the Jews said yes but the Arabs said screw you it's just as easy to kill you all & take the land... I guess the Jews are tougher than they look & purchased their land fair & square until Israel became a state... Maybe the Arabs should quit bitching & fighting & get their shit together & clean up their mess... I don't pity the pathetic...



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May 20, 2018 17:28:52   #
Nickolai
 
amadjuster wrote:
Muslims have been killing Jews since Mohammad got going. Pay back is a bitch.






That's not true When the Moors invaded Spain in711 Shepardi Jews followed them and remained until the Catholics defeated them in 1492 and drove them out The Jews were ordered to either convert to Christianity or die or they could leave with the Muslims. Jews and Muslims lived side by side in the middle east and Palestine for 600 years under the Ottoman Turks Hostilities did not break out until 1920 after the Balfour Declaration in 1918 The Palestinians resisting a Zionist take over and the Zionist determined to take over the land

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May 20, 2018 17:35:55   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JoyV wrote:
This argument is the same as saying because a knife is not as high tech or expensive as a gun; you shouldn't kill someone with a gun if they are assaulting you with a knife with the intent to kill you. In each case the assault results in death if not stopped. To guarantee stopping someone assaulting you with deadly force, you must kill them first. To cry "unfair" that you killed you intended murderer with a more advanced weapon than the would be murderer had; is ludicrous.

Joy, I don't know if you realize but you're making excuses for fear. Now, if you were defending the action of civilians, I would understand, but you're not. You're defending the actions of what you all seem to insists is one of the most effective and fearless military forces in the world... The amazing undefeated IDF that can stand up to anything... except (if one listens to you) the fear of Palestinian street kids with rocks and sticks.

Someone who knows how to use a sling can hurl a rock the size of a golf ball about 100-120 yards. The IDF uses the M24 Sniper System, with a range of 1500 yards. Think about that. Or, here... some perspective...



That dotted line is the fence. Those plumes of black smoke are from the tires to obscure the sniper line of sight as Palestinian kids brave the no-man zone to plant Palestinian flags and hurl rocks. Seriously, they may as well be beating their chests. It's the effectively the same thing. I found this arial view of the protests in the NYT... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/13/world/middleeast/gaza-fence-aerial.html The article describes those fires as being about 300 meters from the fence. So that's like 330 yards, so add 120 yards (their range) and they're not even making it to the fence. The snipers are just taking shots at them from positions along the fence.

Palestinians:
Observers from the International Rescue Committee and the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reported that the majority of protesters acted nonviolently on 30 March[83] and 6 April.[39] Protest camps are set up 700 meters from the border. Protest actions near the camps have been large, diverse in participation, and peaceful.[206] protesters at the camps are engaged in a sit-in protest organized around their tents. Each tent is labeled with the town or village from which its occupants were expelled.[125] On both of the larger protest days, hundreds of primarily young men have approached or entered the 300-meter exclusion zone declared by Israeli military forces, thrown stones, hurled Molotov cocktails, and attempted to plant Palestinian flags.[39][83] A New York Times account describes the purpose of approaching the fence as "a powerful statement of defiance, bravery and national pride" among Palestinians.[207]

Israelis:
While the IDF has not publicly disclosed its rules of engagement, press reports indicate that soldiers are permitted to shoot armed protesters within 300 metres (980 ft) of the fence and unarmed protesters within 100 metres (330 ft).[207] The IDF has stated that its soldiers are advised to first fire warning shots, then wounding shots, before taking fatal shots

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May 20, 2018 17:41:42   #
Nickolai
 
amadjuster wrote:
Muslims believe a martyr not only goes straight to Paradise and receives 72 virgins (or cute boys), they also can redeem 70 of their relatives. They really do. Do you see why they don't care?




Those are the beliefs they have crammed into the heads of young Muslims but the Problems at not religious so much as it is geo political the Religion is used by the leaders to inspire young people to die for the cause Radical Islam is just a tool to manipulate. Both Islam and Christianity are expansionist. Islam from the get go spread the good news to all parts of the world Sweeping accross north Africa andinto Spain and East into Persia, Afghanistan and India, Christianith had precedded it circling the Mediteranean and into Europe. I stil lget Mormoms knocking on my door bringinning me good news. I have an in law went on mission to Kenya and a grand neice on two missions to cicily. I got jumped i na Pentacostel church and a curch of the Nazerne to make the call to Christ and get saved I was 13 thre last time and swore I was never going into a curch ever again except for wedings and funerals.

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May 20, 2018 17:44:17   #
emarine
 
straightUp wrote:
Joy, I don't know if you realize but you're making excuses for fear. Now, if you were defending the action of civilians, I would understand, but you're not. You're defending the actions of what you all seem to insists is one of the most effective and fearless military forces in the world... The amazing undefeated IDF that can stand up to anything... except (if one listens to you) the fear of Palestinian street kids with rocks and sticks.

Someone who knows how to use a sling can hurl a rock the size of a golf ball about 100-120 yards. The IDF uses the M24 Sniper System, with a range of 1500 yards. Think about that. Or, here... some perspective...



Those plumes of black smoke are from the tires to obscure the sniper line of sight as Palestinian kids brave the no-man zone to plant Palestinian flags and hurl rocks. Seriously, they may as well be beating their chests. It's the effectively the same thing.
Joy, I don't know if you realize but you're making... (show quote)




I totally agree... extreme stupidity is pathetic... Maybe if the Arab terrorists taught math & science instead of how to sling rocks the people would know how to take care of themselves... a 2 state solution will not work with extreme Islam calling the shots in Palestine...

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May 20, 2018 17:47:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
emarine wrote:
I totally agree... extreme stupidity is pathetic... Maybe if the Arab terrorists taught math & science instead of how to sling rocks the people would know how to take care of themselves... a 2 state solution will not work with extreme Islam calling the shots in Palestine...
And, that is a fact.

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May 20, 2018 17:50:56   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Nik, none of what you say is true. Period.







Read the passages man It all in there. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees! You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.” While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity. You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

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