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May 20, 2018 09:01:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
No, I always welcome the truth. When you come across some truth, please share. Fact is, eagle, you are not the arbiter of truth, no single person has that power.


"Fact is, eagle, you are not the arbiter of truth, no single person has that power." - BR
I sure am not the "arbiter of truth" BR, but I have done a whole lot of study since the 1960's, and I will present what I have discovered over these decades.

You find the truth boring, BR?
Trying to stop our soldiers from dying for BS, will never bore me.
Hundreds of thousands of other casualties dying for BS will never bore me either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

So here are a couple more videos that "bore" you;

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years
https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw


There is a running thread why not much happens to change our government handlers from promoting globalism, a One world government.
Here is why not much has changed under either party, when it comes to foreign policy;

Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRA-Elist.html - Initial List of Council on Foreign Relations Members

Hillary Clinton Frankly Reveals the CFR Is Running the USA ...
Hillary Clinton spills the beans at the inauguration of the new office for Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, D.C. Some have said it was simply a slip of the tongue but whatever the perception is Clinton frankly revealed who's running the show in these United States:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2T-5Pd3oYY
Zionist control of CFR: http://www.rense.com/general48/captiv.htm

Some Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Facts
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:
Bush Sr. - CFR,B (R)
Bush Jr? Cabinet CFR (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Heny Kissinger BB,CFR,TC (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC,BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB George Soros - CFR,BB (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR,TC (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D
Leon Panetta CFR (D)
Lee Hamilton CFR,TC (R)
Robert Reich CFR (D)
Condoleezza Rice CFR (R)
Susan Rice CFR (D)
Donna Shalala CFR/TC (D)



THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR(R)
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN Spinner BB/CFR/TC/92 (D)
Robert B. Reich CFR (D)

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May 20, 2018 10:41:30   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JoyV wrote:
Your idea of what is beautiful is far from mine. I don't see beauty in using children as shields. I don't see beauty in burning tires pouring copious amounts of toxic smoke into the air. I don't see beauty in needless death.

I don't either... obviously you have no clue what I was referring to. 

JoyV wrote:

Israel has not suppressed or controlled any western news agencies broadcasting in Gaza. Nor could it without international consequences if it tried. And the news has been very anti-Israeli. So how are Israelis obscuring it?

You don't have to suppress news agencies to open alternate channels and flood the media market with lies. My brother's Jewish wife's sister used to get paid to edit pro-Israeli opinions. Before that she was a museum curator so that show's her "experience".

JoyV wrote:

I grew up as a second class citizen being an American Indian. My mother spent time in Carlisle Indian School before it closed for good. I understand being oppressed.

I don't think your're understanding reaches that level. Not if your using the Carlisle Indian School as a reference. And people of Indian decent today claiming to know what oppression is like is no more ludicrous than blacks today saying they know what it's like to be a slave in chains. I'm not saying the Indians weren't oppressed, just that I doubt seriously that YOU are familiar enough to make such silly statements.


JoyV wrote:
But being oppressed doesn't mean you will stupidly set yourself on fire accidentally. It certainly doesn't compel you to use your own women and children as living shields.

It all depends on how oppressed you are. If your very lives are being threatened then yes, it's compelling enough to launch counter attacks in any way you can, even if you know you're going to die doing it because at least that way they have the honor of going down fighting for their families. And I get so tired of that stupid "they hide behind civilians bull****" Every other ******* excuse... "They hide behind their own women and children". That's just the excuse Israel comes up with when they kill women and children. The only reason why the U.S. Army didn't use the same excuse when they laid waste to entire Indian villages is that prevailing sentiment among Americans was that Indians were savages, including the women and children. Due to modern media and global awareness, Israel has to be more creative with their excuses. 

JoyV wrote:

As for Hamas' meager resources, it has enough to pay every martyred family $3000 a month for years. The Palestinians receive billions of dollars a year from the US alone.

No they don't. That's just a blatant lie!

It's one thing to enter the argument with some misconceptions Joy but to continue to hoist lie after lie in a desperate attempt to discredit the suffering of the Palestinian people just because you're taking a side is disgusting. I'm sure your ancestors are turning over in their graves.

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May 20, 2018 10:54:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
emarine wrote:
I find it ironic when the two of you talk prejudice... unfortunately most humans are prejudice in one way or another including me...

I agree and actually I remember talking about that with Loki some time back when I said it's human nature to be prejudiced but keeping it to ourselves is what makes us civil.

emarine wrote:
with that said here are some simple truths... the Arabs are and have always been the aggressors towards Israel...

I'm sure if Muslims decided one day to make the state you live in a Muslim State and told you to move aside as they bulldoze your house, you would understand the sentiment a little better.

emarine wrote:
Israel has accepted a two state solution from the start where as the Arabs have not & declared a war...

While this is true, I can also understand why the Arabs rejected the two-state solution. Using my example again, would you accept that Muslim State knowing that it's not occupying ALL the of the US, just the part where you live? Would that make it acceptable to you?

emarine wrote:
The Arabs were defeated every time and still provoke war..

Maybe the reason why people don't get this is because they can't tell apples from oranges... "Arab" is a reference to a race. "Israel" is a reference to a country. The U.S. fought the Filipinos, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Chinese and the Vietnamese but if I were to use your semantics I would just be saying it was the same dumb-ass Asians that keep coming at us. 

If you're referring to the Arab League of Nations, they've been chill since 1974. All the attacks since then were from stateless entities like Hamas and Hezbollah... the only two Arab nations to attack Israel since 1974 was Syria (once) and Lebanon (twice). In none of these cases will you find a situation where Israel didn't have a ridiculous advantage in terms of weapons and funding.

The wars with the Arab nations that stretch from 1947 to 1974 are often described as the Arab-Israeli Wars and they don't all fit into your description either...

The First Arab-Israeli War, 1947-49, did not start with an attack on the State of Israel because the State of Israel wasn't recognized by ANYONE as a sovereign nation yet. "Israel" was literally a stateless terrorist organization that did the same thing ISIS was trying to do by declaring a "rightful" domain. In fact the U.S. and Britain imposed restrictions on arms coming into Palestine (which is what the place was called then) BECAUSE they were... terrorists. So... the terrorists snagged a deal with Czechoslovakia for smuggled shipments of weapons that were intended for the Nazis (including brand new Messerschmidts) then they declared their independence and yeah, they basically kicked ass. I guess that's terrorism done right.

The Second Arab-Israeli War in 1956 did not start with an attack on Israel either. This time Israel attacked the Arabs... specifically, Egypt and Israel was joined by the British and the French. So not only was Israel the aggressor but they had two super-powers on their side while Egypt was alone defending it's borders. What was happening here is that Nasser had just nationalized the Suez Canal. So the British and French basically tried to do what the U.S. did in Iraq and change the regime. But then the UN stepped in to say the invasion was a violation of international law, which of course they did during our invasion of Iraq but the difference is the British, French and Israelis complied. Bush went ahead anyway, which is what G.W.Bush is officially registered as a war criminal. 

The Third Arab-Israeli War, 1967... Incredibly, this is yet another one where Israel attacked first. They launched air strikes on Egyptian airbases. Israel justified their attacks by saying that Egypt closed the Straights of Tiran to Israeli shipping, which they did, but that's not the same thing as attacking their country. The surprise air strikes just about destroyed the entire Egyptian airforce, then Israeli ground forces invaded the Sinai and took Gaza. That's when Nassar induced Syria and Jordan to attack Israel. Israel won mostly because none of the Arab nations had a plan because they weren't expecting a fight. Israel DID have a plan because they WERE expecting to fight because THEY were planning on taking the Sinai! They also took the Golan Heights from Syria and the West Bank from Jordan. The UN, (probably regretting by now that they recognized the State of Israel in the first place) said you have to give those territories back and Israel basically told the UN to **** off.

The Fourth Arab-Israeli War, 1973 (Yom Kippur War) technically, this war did not start with an attack on Israel either because the territories they attacked technically belonged to them, not Israel. Egypt moved forces into the Sinai, which according to the UN still rightfully belonged to Egypt and Syria moved into the Golan Heights which according to the UN still rightfully belonged to Syria. So these countries were simply trying to get their territory back. There were no plans to attack the recognized State of Israel. 

emarine wrote:
Israel has returned occupied land in trade for peace only to be attacked again unprovoked ...

First of all, they never returned any of the West Bank back to Jordan, they never returned the Golan to Syria and they never returned the Gaza to Egypt. All they did is withdraw their troops from the Gaza Strip while maintaining control of everything going in and coming out, including water, and electricity. Do you know why they pulled the troops out? Because the Geneva Convention applies human rights standards to occupying forces. So Israel pulled their forces out so the law no longer applies and now they can use their siege-like advantages to literally turn Gaza into a living hell. It's pretty sick.

emarine wrote:
both people have equal rights to live there...

That's a pretty narrow statement. Inmates in our federal prison have a right to live here too. 

emarine wrote:
Gaza is run by Hamas a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood who in 1928 declared Palestine Arab only land & declared holy Jihad on all non Muslims...

Jewish Ghetos in Nazi Germany were run by Jews too. Just because you put someone in charge of something doesn't mean your giving them control.

emarine wrote:
It is Hamas who imprisons the people of Gaza not Israel...

Gaza IS a prison!

emarine wrote:
Israel defends against Arab aggression & the Arabs lose & suffer every time...

You already spouted off that false image and I already debunked it.

emarine wrote:
Arabs teach their children hatred & death toward Israel... Israel teaches math & the sciences to over 1 million Arab children in Israel as well as their own children...

That's not about a difference in culture, it's a difference in socioeconomics and freedom. When people are oppressed to the point of inhumanity, they pass fear and hatred to their children. When people are privileged and happy, they pass science and literature. 

emarine wrote:
I agree Trump was foolish moving the embassy inciting more hatred from Arabs who are all about hate from childhood... Brainwashing children to hate promotes the lack of freedom in Gaza & prevents a two

Which was the Zionist plan all along. They never wanted a two-state solution, they want the Palestinians to either die or accept their fate as sub-humans and one way to insure that is to push them into the most intolerable situations possible which guarantees their violent behavior which in their mind justifies their execution.

Zionists... Not the Israeli people, not the Jews of the world... but the Zionists controlling the Israeli government. 

NO BETTER THAN ISIS!

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May 20, 2018 11:05:49   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
straightUp wrote:
Which was the Zionist plan all along. They never wanted a two-state solution, they want the Palestinians to either die or accept their fate as sub-humans and one way to insure that is to push them into the most intolerable situations possible which guarantees their violent behavior which in their mind justifies their execution.

Zionists... Not the Israeli people, not the Jews of the world... but the Zionists controlling the Israeli government. 

NO BETTER THAN ISIS!


"..... Zionists... Not the Israeli people, not the Jews of the world... but the Zionists controlling the Israeli government.

NO BETTER THAN ISIS!" - straightUp

I agree with you on your take on the whole Israeli Zionist fabrication.

Thanks for taking the time, point by point.
A keeper.

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May 20, 2018 11:30:20   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
straight, The way that the US can help Israel is to sell it the weapons it needs to defend itself.

Yes, if you want to support an oppressive regime.

saltwind 78 wrote:
Israel has never asked the US to fight it's battles unlike every ally we have.

The only time ANY ally has asked the US to fight was during WW2 when Germany was literally taking over the world (not just Europe) and we were sitting on our hands because we couldn't tell which side we liked better.

saltwind 78 wrote:
Iran is enemy of both Israel and the US.

It would seem so.

saltwind 78 wrote:
The correct statement is Israel will have to defend itself, and the interests of the US by taking on Iran.

That would be suicide.

saltwind 78 wrote:
Iran is a much larger country than Israel, but Israel has always fought it's own battles, and never asked any other country to fight it's battles.

They never had to fight a country as strong as Iran.

saltwind 78 wrote:
The terrorists in Gaza were not just holding a peaceful protest, they were trying to cross the border into Israel to kill Israelis.

I'm certain that's not the case. What are they going to kill them with sticks and insults? No, my dramatic friend, I think it's far more likely that some of the more excitable protesters (probably kids) got carried away in the excitement and started to get physical with the fence. I've seen similar things like that right here in the U.S.

saltwind 78 wrote:
Many, many of the peaceful protesters were members of Hamas, carrying weapons. They fight from behind children. Many children were killed in this terrorist operation. The question is, what were children doing in a planned violent operation?

*sigh* I'm not going to argue with your fantasies.

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May 20, 2018 11:32:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"..... Zionists... Not the Israeli people, not the Jews of the world... but the Zionists controlling the Israeli government.

NO BETTER THAN ISIS!" - straightUp

I agree with you on your take on the whole Israeli Zionist fabrication.

Thanks for taking the time, point by point.
A keeper.



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May 20, 2018 11:33:26   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/dTg4qnyUGxg

Its not surprising that the Muslim Brotherhood was founded In1928 The Zionist immigratin from Eastern Europe and Russia began in 1918-19 and violence broke out In1920 in Palestine. This video is a 2004 BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares " that tracks the rise of radical Islam and American Neo Cons the politics of the politics of fear. Part 1 of 3 parts very educational


So the terrorist attacks with dead and wounded have been a fabricated fantasy of the politicians to gain power? Are the deaths fantasies? Are the incidents we've all seen and read about made up? Or are the politicians paying people to perpetrate them?

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May 20, 2018 11:36:37   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/dTg4qnyUGxg
I get my take on history from history I don't believe in belief-- I try and stick with the facts and evidence If new evidence is found that overturns the existing facts, Then my way of thinking changes so I don't believe in belief or absolutes. I have no use for radical Islam but I do recognize that the Radicals are manufactured by such things as invasion and Occupation of Iraq. This Video of the 2004 BBC documentary " The Power of Nightmares" The Rise Of The Politics of Fear part 1 of three parts is great help in understanding the problem between Islam and the US
https://youtu.be/dTg4qnyUGxg br I get my take on h... (show quote)


If you get your history from history, why the youtube links. Anyone can post anything legal on youtube. It is hardly a primary source of history.

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May 20, 2018 11:43:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JoyV wrote:
If you get your history from history, why the youtube links. Anyone can post anything legal on youtube. It is hardly a primary source of history.


Everything and all is on You Tube, Joy. One has to use their brain to discern truth from fiction.One has to know their sources.
That takes time and energy. Try it.
BTW; The MSM does not afford the opportunity to see all sides.

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May 20, 2018 12:13:28   #
Nickolai
 
JoyV wrote:
If you get your history from history, why the youtube links. Anyone can post anything legal on youtube. It is hardly a primary source of history.





It depends on who is making the video If it is a credible source such as History channel, National Geographic. BBC . PBS, or just some opinion channel. There is a lot on good history on YouTube It just depends who is producing the material. When you are shown the old original film with the actual historical figures speaking of historical events and is produced by a reputable producer you can expect that it is accurate history. As far as opinion shows there opinion shows across the spectrum and I give them no credibility

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May 20, 2018 12:21:23   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
How the Jews blackmailed Woodrow Wilson into WW-l

WORLD WAR I broke out in the summer of 1914. Within two years Germany had won the war.

The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the British convoys from the Atlantic Ocean and leaving Britain without ammunition and food for her soldiers.
At that time the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. And the Italian army had collapsed.
Not a shot had been fired on German soil yet Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis which means: “Let’s call the war off and let everything be as it was before the war started.”
England, in the summer of 1916, was considering Germany’s peace terms. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was offering them or going on with the war and being totally defeated.
While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, led by the Jew, Chaim Weitzman, who later became the 1st President of Israel, went to the British War Cabinet and said: “Don’t capitulate to Germany. You can win this war if the United States comes in as your ally. We can arrange this. But in return, you must promise us Palestine once the tide turns in your favor.”

THE ZIONIST JEW CHAIM WEITZMAN was a Russian born chemist who moved to England in 1904. By 1915, Weitzman had developed a chemical process of producing acetone from maize. Acetone was a vital ingredient in production of artillery shells which Britain and her allies had a short supply of in the beginning of World War I.
It was during this period that Weitzman, through the mediation of Walter Rothschild, met Sir Arthur James Balfour, the First Lord of the Admiralty, and David Lloyd George, Britain’s Minister of Munitions.

Both of these political figures were under the influence of the Rothschild banking dynasty, of which the Zionist Jew, Walter Rothschild, was the head. It did not hurt Weitzman’s goals when in 1916 Lloyd George became the British Prime Minister and Arthur Balfour the Foreign Secretary.
It was through this connection that the Balfour Declaration granted “a Jewish homeland within Palestine.” The Balfour Declaration was officially written to Walter Rothschild in 1919. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain’s promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon for getting the United States into the war.
During this time period in America, President Woodrow Wilson was campaigning for his re-election in 1916 on his popular campaign slogan, “He Kept Us out of War.” But on April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war against Germany. What made Wilson change his mind?

SHORTLY BEFORE PRESIDENT WILSON’S RE-ELECTION, he received a Jewish visitor in the White House by the name of Samuel Untermeyer.
The Jew Untermeyer was a prominent New York City attorney of the Law Firm, Guggenheim, Untermeyer, & Marshall.
The Firm had as one of its main clients, Kuhn Loeb Bank, of which Jacob Schiff, an agent of Walter Rothschild, was the head. Both Untermeyer and Schiff contributed generously to the National Democratic Committee that installed President Wilson in the White House in both of his elections.
Untermeyer informed President Wilson that he had been retained to bring a Breach of Promise action against President Wilson. Untermeyer’s client was the former wife of a professor at Princeton University at the same time that Wilson was a professor at Princeton University. Untermeyer informed Wilson that his client was willing to accept $40,000 in lieu of commencing the Breach of Promise action.
Untermeyer produced a packet of letters from his pocket written by President Wilson to his colleague’s wife when they were neighbors at Princeton University. These letters established the fact that an illicit relationship had existed between Wilson and the wife of his Princeton colleague. Wilson immediately acknowledged his authorship of the letters. Untermeyer then informed Wilson that his former sweetheart was in dire need of $40,000.
President Wilson informed Untermeyer that he did not have the $40,000 to pay his blackmailer. Untermeyer then volunteered to give Wilson’s former sweetheart the $40,000 out of his own pocket - but on one condition: that President Wilson promise to appoint to the first vacancy on the United States Supreme Court, the Zionist and Talmudic Jew, Louis Dembitz Brandeis.
Without further talk, President Wilson accepted Mr. Untermeyer’s generous offer. Then on June 5 1916, nearly one year before Wilson asked Congress to declare war on Germany, Wilson appointed the Zionist Jew, Louis Brandeis, to the Supreme Court.
Many were surprised that Wilson, the son of a Christian minister, would appoint to the highest court in the land the first Jewish Supreme Court Justice in US history.

President Wilson and Justice Brandeis became unusually intimate friends. Brandeis knew the circumstances behind his appointment by President Wilson and Wilson feared him because of it.
Justice Brandeis, through the advice of his Zionist colleague, Rabbi Stephen Wise, volunteered his opinion to President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German submarine in the English channel with the loss of lives of US citizens justified a US Declaration of War against Germany.
Relying to a great extent upon the legal opinion of Justice Brandeis, (as well as fear of what Brandeis knew of Wilson’s illicit affair), President Wilson appealed to Congress to declare war against Germany.
This Congress did, on April 6, 1917. The Declaration of War against Germany by the United States guaranteed the Jews throughout the world that Palestine would be turned over to them upon the defeat of Germany even though Britain had already promised it to Trans-Jordan upon the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.
Indeed, Congress declared war against Germany because of Wilson’s assertion that Germany had sunk the S.S. Sussex and that US citizens aboard had perished with the ship. But after General Pershing’s troops were fighting in Europe, the hoax was exposed. The S.S. Sussex had not been sunk and no citizens of the US had lost their lives.
But now the United States was officially at war in Europe. In this war, 115,516 American soldiers were killed and 202,002 were maimed for life.
That is what the Anti-Christian Jews of the world conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld.

Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia on July 28, 1914. The next day, Russia reacted, mobilizing its army. On July 31, 1914, the German Empire gave France an ultimatum: in the case of a war between Germany and Russia, France was to remain neutral. At the same time, Czar Nicholas II was requested – also per ultimatum – to halt the Russian mobilization. When this ultimatum was ignored and the Russian government did not recall its army, the German military issued a declaration of war against Russia. On August 1, 1914, Emperor William II signed the war declaration.
This day marked the beginning of what the American historian George F. Kennan (1904 – 2005) described as the 20th century's "seminal catastrophe" – World War I. As if gripped by madness, Europe's political leaders gave up the continent's relative wealth, stable political relations and cultural hegemony over large parts of the world in the summer of 1914. In what seemed to be some sort of secret pact, the crowned rulers of Europe transformed the continent into a battlefield of unimagined proportions, all because of an incident which was insignificant in comparison to its consequences. They were entranced by the prospect of what they stood to gain at the end of the war, and didn't hear the foreboding voices warning them of their own demise.
How the Jews blackmailed Woodrow Wilson into WW-l ... (show quote)


Quite a fanciful tale. The sprinkling of truth almost makes it believable to someone who knows no history.

1) How do you know the details of private conversations of which the parties would not wanted anyone else to know about?
2)You left out the trigger which became the rallying cry for war. The assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand.
3) Sussex was a cross-English Channel passenger ferry, built in 1896 for the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway (LBSCR). After the LBSCR came to a co-operation agreement with the Compagnie des Chemins de Fer de l'État Français, she transferred to their fleet under a French flag. Sussex became the focus of an international incident when she was severely damaged by a torpedo from a German U-Boat in 1916. After the war she was repaired and sold to Greece in 1919, being renamed Aghia Sophia. Following a fire in 1921, the ship was scrapped.

No one claimed she was sunk as a call to war. Nor were any Americans killed. Wilson told Germany if they continued the practice of sinking passenger ships, the US would break diplomatic relations. The agreement made between Germany and the US was called the Sussex Pledge. It included:
*Passenger ships would not be targeted
*Merchant ships would not be sunk until the presence of weapons had been established, if necessary by a search of the ship
*Merchant ships would not be sunk without provision for the safety of passengers and crew

A year later Germany resumed targeting any and all ships. In response, the US declared war.

Your account of Untermyer makes him sound like some unknown Jew came to see Wilson in a private underhanded meeting. On the contrary, he was well known both in politics and business, and his position would have made visits to the White house and Wilson not only understandable but actually expected. Here are a few of his details:
*Untermyer for years agitated before Congress and state legislatures such measures as the compulsory regulation of stock exchanges.
*He for many years conducted agitations and wrote magazine articles dealing with reforms in the criminal laws, the regulation of trusts and combinations and other economic subjects.
*He was counsel for many reorganization committees, including those of the Seaboard Air Line, the Rock Island railway, the Central Fuel Oil Co., and the Southern Iron and Steel Co.
*In 1915 he acted as a counsel for the U.S. Government in the suit brought against the Secretary of the Treasury and the Comptroller of the Currency by the Riggs National Bank of Washington, D.C., which charged there was a conspiracy to wreck it; the defendants were cleared.
*He took an active part in preparing the Federal Reserve Bank law, the Clayton bill, the Federal Trade Commission bill, and other legislation curbing trusts.
*He was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in 1904, 1908, 1912, and delegate-at-large for the state of New York in 1916.
*He was a strong supporter of President Wilson's administration.

The Jews did not make Germany target the Sussex. They did not make Germany renege on the pledge. And if Wilson asked congress to declare war due to blackmail, why did he wait more than a year to make the request? Your story is filled with more holes than Swiss cheese.

As for the "secret pact" in Europe. Anyone at the time keeping track of current events could see war was brewing long before the assassination. Several close calls had been adverted and there came to be a belief by many that this would always be the case. Some contributing factors in this NOT being the case were Nocholas' weakness and Wilhelm's low intelligence accompanied by fascination with military might and his smug belief in his own superiority. These factors were just additional to all the others and not the cause of the war in and of themselves.

What you consider "secret" was common knowledge to those who kept abreast of events.

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May 20, 2018 12:24:48   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
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“I'm sure if Muslims decided one day to make the state you live in a Muslim State and told you to move aside as they bulldoze your house, you would understand the sentiment a little better.”

I suggest you study Islam a little more. That is exactly what they are planning.

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May 20, 2018 12:26:56   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JoyV wrote:
Quite a fanciful tale. The sprinkling of truth almost makes it believable to someone who knows no history.

1) How do you know the details of private conversations of which the parties would not wanted anyone else to know about?
2)You left out the trigger which became the rallying cry for war. The assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand.
3) Sussex was a cross-English Channel passenger ferry, built in 1896 for the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway (LBSCR). After the LBSCR came to a co-operation agreement with the Compagnie des Chemins de Fer de l'État Français, she transferred to their fleet under a French flag. Sussex became the focus of an international incident when she was severely damaged by a torpedo from a German U-Boat in 1916. After the war she was repaired and sold to Greece in 1919, being renamed Aghia Sophia. Following a fire in 1921, the ship was scrapped.

No one claimed she was sunk as a call to war. Nor were any Americans killed. Wilson told Germany if they continued the practice of sinking passenger ships, the US would break diplomatic relations. The agreement made between Germany and the US was called the Sussex Pledge. It included:
*Passenger ships would not be targeted
*Merchant ships would not be sunk until the presence of weapons had been established, if necessary by a search of the ship
*Merchant ships would not be sunk without provision for the safety of passengers and crew

A year later Germany resumed targeting any and all ships. In response, the US declared war.

Your account of Untermyer makes him sound like some unknown Jew came to see Wilson in a private underhanded meeting. On the contrary, he was well known both in politics and business, and his position would have made visits to the White house and Wilson not only understandable but actually expected. Here are a few of his details:
*Untermyer for years agitated before Congress and state legislatures such measures as the compulsory regulation of stock exchanges.
*He for many years conducted agitations and wrote magazine articles dealing with reforms in the criminal laws, the regulation of trusts and combinations and other economic subjects.
*He was counsel for many reorganization committees, including those of the Seaboard Air Line, the Rock Island railway, the Central Fuel Oil Co., and the Southern Iron and Steel Co.
*In 1915 he acted as a counsel for the U.S. Government in the suit brought against the Secretary of the Treasury and the Comptroller of the Currency by the Riggs National Bank of Washington, D.C., which charged there was a conspiracy to wreck it; the defendants were cleared.
*He took an active part in preparing the Federal Reserve Bank law, the Clayton bill, the Federal Trade Commission bill, and other legislation curbing trusts.
*He was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in 1904, 1908, 1912, and delegate-at-large for the state of New York in 1916.
*He was a strong supporter of President Wilson's administration.

The Jews did not make Germany target the Sussex. They did not make Germany renege on the pledge. And if Wilson asked congress to declare war due to blackmail, why did he wait more than a year to make the request? Your story is filled with more holes than Swiss cheese.

As for the "secret pact" in Europe. Anyone at the time keeping track of current events could see war was brewing long before the assassination. Several close calls had been adverted and there came to be a belief by many that this would always be the case. Some contributing factors in this NOT being the case were Nocholas' weakness and Wilhelm's low intelligence accompanied by fascination with military might and his smug belief in his own superiority. These factors were just additional to all the others and not the cause of the war in and of themselves.

What you consider "secret" was common knowledge to those who kept abreast of events.
Quite a fanciful tale. The sprinkling of truth al... (show quote)


Here is a subject worth studying. It effects us all today.

Here is a list of books regarding Banking and the NWO agenda. Seldom found in book stores. Never in libraries; and not on reading lists in our high Schools or Universities. (Amazon is a source):
None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen (short and easy reading . Puts the puzzle together real well)
also –
Say “ No!” to the New World Order by Gary Allen
Descent into Slavery by Des Griffin ( covers many aspects of America’s descent, easy reading )
The World Order by Eustace Mullins (very complete and not too long )
The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin ( very complete )
The Fed RES and our Manipulated Dollar by Martin Larson ( a classic )
The Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson ( Long with an extensive bibliography )
Lincoln Money Martyred by Dr. R. E. Search
Money Creators by Gertrude Coogan
Pied Pipers of Babylon by Verl speer
None Dare Call It Treason by John A.Stormer (1964):
Wish I could take the time to post the Table of contents.
A glimpse:
ch 1) Have We Gone Crazy?
2) The Origin of World Communism
3) The Growth of World communism
4) Words vs Action
6) Education
8) The Press, Radio, and TV
11) Tax Exempt Foundations
13) Internationalism
14)What Can You Do?
Non censored news and commentary:
http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/
For those that can handle the truth; RBN Live ONLINE!

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May 20, 2018 12:29:31   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
The suicide vest was first used in Sri Lankan Civil war between the Hindus and Buddhist that went on for 25 years. The Catholic protestant war in northern Ireland was an echo of the 30 years religious war of the 17 th century in a final act all of which was derived from the Reformation of the Christian church that began in 1517


Suicide bombers do not necessarily mean intentionally putting your own women and children in the path of more danger than yourself. Using them to create a physical wall to fire from behind is far more than those adults who intentionally blow themselves up to take out as many people as they can on the opposing side.

Since I cannot find a site which is not totally unbiased. Here is a video in your search for anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish propaganda, you may have missed.

https://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-the-reality-of-the-peaceful-gaza-border-protests/?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Trump%27s+Plan+Includes+Giving+Away+Parts+of+Jerusalem%3B+Nearly+Half+of+Israelis+Support+Attacking+Iran%27s+Nuclear+Facilities&utm_campaign=20180504_m145265178_Trump%27s+Plan+Includes+Giving+Away+Parts+of+Jerusalem%3B+Nearly+Half+of+Israelis+Support+Attacking+Iran%27s+Nuclear+Facilities&utm_term=March-of-Return-209x139_jpg

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May 20, 2018 12:29:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
amadjuster wrote:
Who does that remind you of?
Yeah, first one to come to mind. I wonder what happened to him.

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