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Liberals on Suicide Watch: Mueller cant Indict Trump for Russian Collusion
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May 18, 2018 15:44:41   #
moldyoldy
 
king hall wrote:
Your ass is in the wind pal. I can name 40 dems, one of which is Ted Kennedy, all convicted!
As to your "bent as the Republicans" please name one Republican that's guilty of deserting a pregnant woman heplessly traped in a submereged vehicle.


How does that make it a crime by an administration?

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May 18, 2018 17:09:48   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
working class stiff wrote:
Opinions on this matter are still not settled and may go to SCOTUS.

“It is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties,” the Starr office memo stated. “In this country, no one, even President Clinton, is above the law.” Ken Starr

http://www.newsweek.com/can-trump-be-indicted-obstruction-justice-id-bet-against-president-attorney-798568

Just substitute Trump for Clinton and viola.
Opinions on this matter are still not settled and ... (show quote)

A President had to be IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE FIRST!

Then he can be charged, then a Grand Jury can indict him, then he can be arrested and jailed, bond can be set or denied according to the evidence, then hee can go to trial. Even if he is convicted he can appeal for years before going to prison.

The same applies to Obummer and Hillary Beast thay have money enough and enough crooked lawyers to keep them from going to prison for years.

God bless America and President Trump

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May 18, 2018 17:58:09   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
moldyoldy wrote:
How does that make it a crime by an administration?

He was a Demon-Rat in Congress so he was part of the admistration.


God bless America and the President

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May 18, 2018 18:32:43   #
Cripple
 
Deceit! We all know what evil deals in deceit. I had to ask myself “Who are you? Who am I?” If I believe in such deceit, if I encourage such deceit by my conduct or lack of conduct, I am just as guilty as those who practice deceit. I can hardly believe myself, soul-searching!
I think I could pass a 5th grade science test, though I see way too many adults (including media) who could not pass a 5th grade science test. I have concluded, despite of what is said and titles he/she may have, these people are TV show Hosts and not journalists. They are reading a script and not news.
I was lied to on two occasions from the same network within minutes of each other. Opposition research happens with almost every Presidential campaign in the last few decades. Who does that research does so for money. A person sells this research to whoever will buy it. Who can purchase such research I asked myself. Is it the person doing the research who commits Treason performing research within the U.S. or those buying the opposition research commits Treason purchasing (via money or other return favor) such opposition research. Makes sense to me it is the later. Where can I go that would be credible to do my own research in this area?
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The above was a cut-n-paste. YES, if you purchase (with money or something else) opposition research from a foreign entity you are guilty. A violation of above is a bit more than a misdemeanor, rather a felony. I was lied to, deceit. I can no longer patronize the network, media, show, host and especially the liar that said such that I argued with a friend of mine (a good friend I can now see that).
U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4.
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Read it yourself! Can a sitting President be convicted? Well you are indicted before you are convicted. Yes, a President would then be impeached and my conclusion on the deceit was proper. What evil practices deceit? Is that who you are?
I contacted my state voting people and I’m now an Independent. A person whose allegiance to a political party makes them ignore truth, ignore the simple written law and Constitution I printed above will no longer have me in any way support or even a vote. I dislike you for what you have done to me. “Everything we say/do is a direct result of your own personal ethics.” So who are you?
Yes, there is a violation of law as quoted above, yes a sitting President can not only be indicted but convicted. I know who I am.

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May 18, 2018 21:31:07   #
son of witless
 
moldyoldy wrote:
No indictments, or even hints of crime, unlike trump who has new crimes daily. How can you even make such stupid comments when even fox has to admit to trumps crimes.


True no indictments, but plenty of hints of crime. Fast and Furious come to mind.

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May 19, 2018 09:37:36   #
Cripple
 
Thanks, did research on that one as well. 6 indictments with 5 guilty pleas not counting Russians and Russia companies.
Another reason I'm so down on deceit and the media. Lies from everywhere. Maybe too much time researching court records, must be a credible source for me to quote, didn't use to do that either.

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May 19, 2018 10:09:29   #
moldyoldy
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks, did research on that one as well. 6 indictments with 5 guilty pleas not counting Russians and Russia companies.
Another reason I'm so down on deceit and the media. Lies from everywhere. Maybe too much time researching court records, must be a credible source for me to quote, didn't use to do that either.


You must use quote reply so that we know who you are responding to

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May 19, 2018 10:26:47   #
jelun
 
Please do.
40? Convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors?


king hall wrote:
Your ass is in the wind pal. I can name 40 dems, one of which is Ted Kennedy, all convicted!
As to your "bent as the Republicans" please name one Republican that's guilty of deserting a pregnant woman heplessly traped in a submereged vehicle.

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May 19, 2018 10:29:32   #
jelun
 
Did research on what one? And let us know what the situation is that you are talking about?

Cripple wrote:
Thanks, did research on that one as well. 6 indictments with 5 guilty pleas not counting Russians and Russia companies.
Another reason I'm so down on deceit and the media. Lies from everywhere. Maybe too much time researching court records, must be a credible source for me to quote, didn't use to do that either.

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May 19, 2018 11:44:45   #
Cripple
 
Someone said 0 indictments of Republicans all from this Russia Mueller investigation. I had to post he is wrong about that one via my research. Yes, me too, via a certain media show I didn't think there were any indictments either. Am quite disappointed in myself, so gullible to believe some unethical person reading a script. Now each time Trump says "Witch Hunt" only digs a hole for himself deeper in my eyes now that I've discovered the lies.

I was in Vietnam, so many dead I was personally involved with in that godforsaken country. Now I discovered the Gulf of Tonkin (N. Vietnam firing/killing our own Navy) was all a lie, never happened. It was the Gulf of Tonkin that changed the minds of U.S. society to send troops to Vietnam. Yes, I was young, dumb and believed all that.

Remember when we never talked or even thought of people and their political affiliation, Republican/Democrat. Deceit, society believing what we are told from a lying media. Yes, real down on myself and all around me lately. I'm about to take critical thinking to the next level and become a cynic. I have a lot of remember when's in my mind lately. Change I lean against, but like a friend of mine said everyday we wake is change, everyday is change we look forward to. What a contradiction I am. Can't trust anyone anymore.

So when someone brings up something about Democrats & Republicans I say they are all the same, attached themselves to money far more a priority than compared to representing their constituents. Makes me feel like a real dummy, so gullible, believe what I wanted to. When I was told I couldn't pass a 5th grade science test, well I just got more upset, but it looks like that statement was true. Yes, I have some rage against who lied to me.

I made a phone call and now I'm a registered Independent.

jelun wrote:
Did research on what one? And let us know what the situation is that you are talking about?

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May 19, 2018 17:59:32   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
old marine wrote:
A President had to be IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE FIRST!

Then he can be charged, then a Grand Jury can indict him, then he can be arrested and jailed, bond can be set or denied according to the evidence, then hee can go to trial. Even if he is convicted he can appeal for years before going to prison.

The same applies to Obummer and Hillary Beast thay have money enough and enough crooked lawyers to keep them from going to prison for years.

God bless America and President Trump
A President had to be IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM O... (show quote)


Tell that to Mr. Starr. I suppose he might be mistaken.

Like I said...opinions differ. And if impeachment is off the table (e.g. one party refuses to see the malfeasance in front of their face) does that mean that everything the President does is legal? The Nixonian 'if the President does it it's not illegal'. Is a President above the law as long as one part of Congress abets the criminal activity?

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May 19, 2018 19:54:55   #
badbob85037
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Special counsel Robert Mueller was been investigating collusion between Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia to steal the 2016 presidential election from Hillary Clinton. He hasn’t found anything and has been focusing almost entirely on Trump’s sex life, but liberals were really holding out hope that the investigation would result in Trump being impeached or jettisoned into space. Well, that ain’t going to happen. It turns out Mueller can’t actually indict the President, so I am assuming there will be a lot more misery in Liberal Land.

This is from CNN, of all places:

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President’s lawyer.

“All they get to do is write a report. They can’t indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us,” said Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

That conclusion is likely based on longstanding Justice Department guidelines.

The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court.

Don’t cry too hard liberals, CNN wants to give you a little glimmer of false hope:

A lack of an indictment would not necessarily mean the President is in the clear. Mueller could issue a report making referrals or recommendations to the House of Representatives.

Okay, follow me on this one: If the Mueller team is telling the Trump team they can’t or won’t indict President Trump, that’s a pretty good indication that they don’t have anything to support an indictment. In other words, this Russian collision investigation has failed to find any evidence of Russian collusion.

Giuliani tells CNN the special counsel’s team has decided that “they have to follow the Justice Department rules.”

Yeah, Mueller is suddenly going to follow Justice Department rules because he has no reason to issue an indictment. See how that works?

“The Justice Department memos going back to before Nixon say that you cannot indict a sitting president, you have to impeach him. Now there was a little time in which there was some dispute about that, but they acknowledged to us orally that they understand that they can’t violate the Justice Department rules,” said Giuliani.

Understand that this isn’t just Giuliani spouting off about something but rather that Mueller’s team actually reached out to him with this information.

Giuliani added that the only thing Mueller can do is write a report. And what will the content of that report be? That Trump may have banged a porn actress and a Playboy model? Who cares? Bill Clinton did way worse.

I know I mentioned in my headline that liberals are on suicide watch, but there won’t be a mass liberal suicide over this. Liberals never follow thorough with any of their immature threats. Remember how many liberals were going to leave America if Trump won the election? They are all still here.
Special counsel Robert Mueller was been investigat... (show quote)


Suicide watch. I don't have to watch them. Just knowing they are gone is good enough for me.

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May 20, 2018 12:13:56   #
Cripple
 
I must do this again! If you can pass a 5th grade science test, then read the small paragraph, single sentence, of Article 2 Section 4 of your own Constitution, verbatim (that means exactly how it is):

"The President, Vice President and all civil Offi cers of the
United States, shall be removed from Offi ce on Impeachment
for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other
high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Conviction is AFTER indictment! An indictment is a bit necessary prior to conviction in this case. Myself, I just pay attention to the deceit.

working class stiff wrote:
Tell that to Mr. Starr. I suppose he might be mistaken.

Like I said...opinions differ. And if impeachment is off the table (e.g. one party refuses to see the malfeasance in front of their face) does that mean that everything the President does is legal? The Nixonian 'if the President does it it's not illegal'. Is a President above the law as long as one part of Congress abets the criminal activity?

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