Israel Murders Dozens of Protesters in Cold Blood
May 16, 2018 19:28:29 #
JoyV wrote:
None of the Islamic nations in the ME are accepting Syrian and Palestinian refugees, Jordan has been overwhelmed with them, and King Abdullah has refused to accept anymore. The expense of dealing with them is enormous.The Jews did not bring the US into the war. But t... (show quote)
May 16, 2018 19:28:44 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
straightUp wrote:
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands... (show quote)
I have to wonder how many of you leaners among others like you have any idea what a nation that has its own governing powers has any right to govern itself and if the UN actually has that power. Nations that are sovereign have that right to determine what happens to their people and things you seem to want to skip over.
May 16, 2018 19:33:28 #
JoyV wrote:
The term, "mostly peaceful protest" has been heard a lot from the left these days. Either its a peaceful protest or it isn't.
Apparently, you've never taken part in a large and diverse protest. If you did you would know that when 80 out of 3,000 people become confrontational, it's "mostly" a peaceful protest.
JoyV wrote:
If I remember my geography, Gaza borders Egypt as well as Israel. Does Israel prevent them from leaving via Egypt? Oh! Egypt has closed that border to Palestinians and NOT at any request from Israel. Egypt cites the threat of violence by Palestinians.
If I remember my geography, Gaza borders Egypt as well as Israel. Does Israel prevent them from leaving via Egypt? Oh! Egypt has closed that border to Palestinians and NOT at any request from Israel. Egypt cites the threat of violence by Palestinians.
You don't put much thought into these morsels of anti-Arab rhetoric do you?
1. Egypt didn't close the border until 2007 and the reason why is because in 2006 the Palestinians elected Hamas as their provisional government. Hamas is associated with the Muslim Brotherhood that has been banned in Egypt since 1954.
2. Egypt closing their border (for whatever reason), doesn't make Israel any less guilty.
...Egypt isn't controlling all the resources going in and out of Gaza. Israel is.
...Egypt isn't blocking every attempt the Palestinians make to be recognized, Israel is.
...Egypt isn't killing them. Israel is.
JoyV wrote:
So if Palestinians impose too great a threat to Egyptians to be allowed into the Sinai; how much more of a threat do they pose to Israelis?
So if Palestinians impose too great a threat to Egyptians to be allowed into the Sinai; how much more of a threat do they pose to Israelis?
My previous answer invalidates this premise. But nice try. You should join the liar league. ;)
JoyV wrote:
In fact the free movement of Palestinians into and out of Gaza was only terminated in 1993 after many incidents of terror perpetrated by the freely moving Palestinians and in particular the 1st intifada. After the 2nd intifada more restrictions were imposed. But in recent years the restrictions have been reduced. 47 checkpoints have been terminated. 140 roadblocks have been removed. Another 140 roadblocks have been opened to traffic.
In fact the free movement of Palestinians into and out of Gaza was only terminated in 1993 after many incidents of terror perpetrated by the freely moving Palestinians and in particular the 1st intifada. After the 2nd intifada more restrictions were imposed. But in recent years the restrictions have been reduced. 47 checkpoints have been terminated. 140 roadblocks have been removed. Another 140 roadblocks have been opened to traffic.
Yes, Israel is always willing to be kinder when the Palestinians behave and accept their subhuman fate.
JoyV wrote:
As for water and electricity, if we built a power plant in a border state and allowed Mexico to receive free power from it, would that be a hostile act?
As for water and electricity, if we built a power plant in a border state and allowed Mexico to receive free power from it, would that be a hostile act?
Israel isn't supplying electricity to another sovereign country Joy. A more correct analogy would be if we built a power plant to supply electricity to a fenced strip of Arizona and forced the people to depend exclusively on that supply, THEN used that supply as a political tool, by shutting it off anytime the people there complain. THAT is what Israel is doing.
I'm sure the rest of your post is a similar collection of Zionist propaganda and I'm running short on time so...
May 16, 2018 19:46:35 #
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May 16, 2018 19:54:33 #
[quote.Apparently, you've never taken part in a large and diverse protest. If you did you would know that when 80 out of 3,000 people become confrontational, it's "mostly" a peaceful protest...[/quote]
I never took part in a “large and diverse” protest (Antifa?) because I had to work or study or do something else useful. White Privilege is a bitch. Did you ever get anything useful from your protest besides an arrest?
I never took part in a “large and diverse” protest (Antifa?) because I had to work or study or do something else useful. White Privilege is a bitch. Did you ever get anything useful from your protest besides an arrest?
May 16, 2018 20:04:29 #
straightUp wrote:
Israel isn't supplying electricity to another sovereign country Joy. A more correct analogy would be if we built a power plant to supply electricity to a fenced strip of Arizona and forced the people to depend exclusively on that supply, THEN used that supply as a political tool, by shutting it off anytime the people there complain. THAT is what Israel is doing.
I'm sure the rest of your post is a similar collection of Zionist propaganda and I'm running short on time so...
I'm sure the rest of your post is a similar collection of Zionist propaganda and I'm running short on time so...
I could not help but notice your deafening silence on the matter of the atrocities going on in Syria. I also couldn't help but notice the same silence obtains when ISIS beheads innocent hostages.
When Boko Haram kidnaps and makes sex slaves out of young girls you must think that is none of your affair.
When Israelis shoot protesters, many of whom were actually armed, you can't shut up.
May 16, 2018 20:13:28 #
Richard Rowland wrote:
Jezzzus, do you ever tire of spouting off about that. So what that they passed thru there 10,000 BC, so did a lot of others. This Biblical fairy tale that the Jews wrote, what would ya expect them to claim.
That rational thinking people have allowed themselves to be hoodwinked by this fairytale...
Hell, most Jews don't believe it themselves, but along comes the gullible goy and falls for this shit.
That rational thinking people have allowed themselves to be hoodwinked by this fairytale...
Hell, most Jews don't believe it themselves, but along comes the gullible goy and falls for this shit.
So if its a fairy tale they wrote, how do you account for the archaeological evidence and Roman history?
For the evidence to back up the "fairy tale" either they had a time machine to go back and plant evidence to match their story they wrote, or they had precognition to know where the evidence would be found so could write their story to match. Yet neither helped them in the numerous atrocities they faced in Europe and Russia. And maybe the same time machine was used to go back to the Roman empire and force them to make sure all details about Palestine matched their narrative.
The other alternative is to believe that if Roman history, archaeological evidence, and their writings all back each other up; just possibly it may be because it is true.
May 16, 2018 20:19:03 #
Loki wrote:
I could not help but notice your deafening silence on the matter of the atrocities going on in Syria. I also couldn't help but notice the same silence obtains when ISIS beheads innocent hostages.
When Boko Haram kidnaps and makes sex slaves out of young girls you must think that is none of your affair.
When Israelis shoot protesters, many of whom were actually armed, you can't shut up.
When Boko Haram kidnaps and makes sex slaves out of young girls you must think that is none of your affair.
When Israelis shoot protesters, many of whom were actually armed, you can't shut up.
Always trying... You should check with the Russians to see if there's any dirt on me. ;)
Short answer. The discussions I initiate almost always relate to things you and I have some degree of control over. Israel for instance, gets a lot of money and political support from the American people.
For the record, Boko Hiram, disgusts me. You should know by now, that I don't value religious influence on politics, I bitterly oppose the disregard for women AND liberal education. But I have little control over what they do. I have more control over what Israel does. So that's what I talk about.
Syria is a shit storm. I don't think ANYONE knows WTF is going on.
May 16, 2018 20:23:26 #
Richard Rowland wrote:
You really wanna compare slingshots to Israeli weaponry?
When a weapon is powerful enough to kill, that another has a weapon more powerful only has meaning if the first is deterred by the more powerful weapon, or if the one with the more powerful weapon uses it first. Whether you are dead by a bullet from a gun, a knife, a rock from a sling shot, a fast moving vehicle, or a forgotten land mine; dead is dead. So I for one wouldn't stand around and let someone kill me with a less powerful weapon simply because it is less powerful. If someone were launching rocks with a deadly hunting weapon (sling shot), I would end their ability to do more harm.
And I'd like to see you try to step out of the way of a rock launched by a sling shot unless you saw the moment of release. They are projectiles moving at speed.
May 16, 2018 21:00:18 #
Loki wrote:
Why are you so insistent on us not hanging on to them? If you spent half the effort bitching about illegal drugs and illegal aliens as you do whining about legally owned firearms, we would live in a drug-free and wetback-free society.
The argument was made that hurling rocks was an effective weapon. If that's the case then there is no need for your AR-15's. As for living in a drug free wet back free society that will never happen so long as people desire drugs and business desired the cheapest labor possible.
May 16, 2018 21:10:49 #
Loki wrote:
I could not help but notice your deafening silence on the matter of the atrocities going on in Syria. I also couldn't help but notice the same silence obtains when ISIS beheads innocent hostages.
When Boko Haram kidnaps and makes sex slaves out of young girls you must think that is none of your affair.
When Israelis shoot protesters, many of whom were actually armed, you can't shut up.
When Boko Haram kidnaps and makes sex slaves out of young girls you must think that is none of your affair.
When Israelis shoot protesters, many of whom were actually armed, you can't shut up.
Let me weigh in on this, Loki. You can correct my premise if I'm wrong. Those places you mention, how much support do they get from the American treasury vis-a-vis Israel? The American taxpayer has every right to question what his money is paying for in Israel.
May 16, 2018 21:18:12 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, Dick, hello, anybody home? It is not my inten... (show quote)
You forgot to address me as Herr. Perhaps as you indicate, global anti-semitism is nothing new and appears to be growing, the confidence you have that "Israel will still be there" could be a bit misplaced.
May 16, 2018 21:32:40 #
amadjuster wrote:
I never took part in a “large and diverse” protest (Antifa?) because I had to work or study or do something else useful.
So then you never had time for vacations or weekend fishing trips, or afternoon barbecue parties. I didn't know you were a slave. Sorry.
amadjuster wrote:
White Privilege is a bitch.
White Privilege is a bitch.
Gee, I've never heard that before. ;)
amadjuster wrote:
Did you ever get anything useful from your protest besides an arrest?
Did you ever get anything useful from your protest besides an arrest?
I never got arrested. I always had a career to protect. Not getting arrested in the US is easy for white liberals like me. We just stay out of trouble. And it's hard to gauge the "success" of a protest. The point is to draw attention to the problem. From there on it's really up to diplomacy and law.
May 16, 2018 21:47:44 #
Richard Rowland wrote:
Give it a rest Blade, America would have nothing to fear from Islam. Islam's problem with America is based on America's association with Israel, pull out of the Mideast and America's problems cease. Our boys cease to return home blown apart or in body bags.
Your semantics attempting to confuse the issues are nonsense.
Your semantics attempting to confuse the issues are nonsense.
Then ow do you explain our conflicts with Muslims before the founding of modern Israel? Our close ties with Israel are an additional reason Muslims are anti-American. It is not the only reason. It certainly wasn't the reason in the 19th century.
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