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You are one of the newest ones here so I will try to communicate with you even if you did not honor my request and tell me where I am wrong.

Of course we all want the same things. That's a given. We want health, happiness, a way to make a living, a good investment for our children, etc. No one is arguing that.

Where the problems lie is IN HOW WE GET THERE. The effort I put forth showcased some of those problems and WHY they are problems. Look. I value individual freedom more than any other thing in the world. If I lose freedom, I have no reason to live. I would think every human on the face of the earth would value that freedom just as much as I do. It appalls me that some actually do not value it. I say all that to then say this: most laws are written to RESTRICT individuals and businesses. A few laws are actually neutral, but not many. Our nation has TONS of federal laws, no hyperbole in that declaration. When is enough enough? Most laws are written NOT because they are needed, but for 2-3 simpleton reasons: for votes, for money, for more power, to get that politician's name in the National Archives. The American citizen is seldom IF EVER considered........and almost without exception those laws deny some Americans the freedom that is not supposed to be infringed.

That's the version of reality without any rancor. Next I will address your mention of the Republican's going for big government, which I do NOT deny .... I quit the Republican Party after supporting it for 50 years because it was becoming the same wasteland as the Democrat party has been for 50 years. I don't dislike Democrats. I dislike Democrat Politicians. I also dislike Republican Politicians. I definitely viscerally dislike progressives. It suffices to say they dislike me far more than I dislike them. Why do they dislike me? 1) Because I want the Constitution to be the guiding factor in our laws, and I don't want it interpreted in ways to sneak things in. We either live with it properly or we overthrow America and live like savages. 2) Most people don't agree with the Progs, so when the Progs want something, they legislate it. That way, they have control over conservatives who have no say in the law. Conservatives have never tried to do that. Conservatives HAVE tried to REVERSE, via legislation, legislation progs had put in place. If you can name any legislation conservatives have introduced initially just to get their way on issues that were originally impartial and widely accepted, and especially if that happened before Clinton took office, I would gratefully accept it.

I don't know how much history you know or care about, but where we are going as a nation is headfast toward tyranny. Our only hope is that our bankruptcy and economic collapse will do enough damage that the tyrant will go home. NO conservative wants tyranny. No liberal does either, if he is a real liberal. Progs apparently don't mind, as long as the tyrant is one of their choosing, and THAT tells me how smart Progs are. Progs OWN the Democrat Party. Now, please, tell me exactly HOW we get around that boulder.


I could go on and on, but I truly feel as though my time has been wasted, judging from some of the comments. No one here is truly working on making things right because most Republicans cow-tow just like their leaders and lie if the truth sounds unkind. And that is how the devil wins every time.

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We could solve a good part of our problems if we could stop the blame game. I agree with that. But it will not happen because solutions require honest assessments. Any solution that is merely a re-run of what created the problem to start with is not a solution. America is divided into two separate and opposite mind-sets that I see no way around. I won't be silly enough to group them into political parties as both major parties seem to have nothing but disdain for their constituents. Both constituencies should fire their parties, but won't.

Group A citizens want the Constitution followed as originally written and intended. That group wants a small federal government that is not constantly in the faces of every day citizens. That group wants government to run the country's affairs - not the people's lives. That group wants to be able to live their lives and experience those things it chooses to experience and it does not, and will never, want government meddling with their children's heads.

Group B citizens wants a huge government, and with Obama they are getting more than they've ever before experienced. I will say, but not believe, that group wants EVERYBODY TO BE EQUAL, whereas the Group A merely wants everyone to have the same liberties to be the best they can be.

Group A wants businesses to flourish because it believes that is one factor in having a healthy economy and work for those who will actually work. Group B blames business for all of its woes and causes more and more restrictions to be placed on businesses, thereby actually causing some of the harm they accuse the businesses of causing. I would wager a LOT that all union leadership spots belong to Group B, and thereby is causing some of the troubles we are having economically.

Group A wants to live a life free of government interference. Group B wants government to regulate most activities in personal lives and in business ownership.

Each group will try to use government to control behaviors, but Group B can't rest until it gets its way and will do whatever it takes to get government regulation to put an end to anything Group A believes in. Group B will vehemently deny that accusation, but they are already wrong. All of our regulating agencies in the United states belong to and are staffed by Group B thinkers and we don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the restrictions on citizens these agencies have ORDERED. No one elected them, no asked them to represent us, and many of us are diametrically opposed to their policies and actions, but we don't have a say who gets appointed and hired to issue orders to us. Suffice to say it is killing our country.

So there is no question about what I say about who, Group A is the group who believes in the US Constitution, small government, and freedom from government oppression; conservatives.

Group B is the group who believes the US Constitution can be interpreted any way that group feels it should be interpreted to suit their needs, regardless what it plainly says. Group B believes the bigger the government and the more oppressive it is to their opponents, the better. Group B will never, under any circumstances, chastise their leaders to make them better people. Group A WILL chastise their leaders.

As long as these circumstances exist, there will be no getting together to solve the nation's problems because our citizens ARE the major part of our problems. If everyone lived according to principles and honesty, no one would put up with scum and trash in our government.