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Apr 27, 2018 20:08:34   #
boofhead
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
There have been hundreds of takeoffs and landings with remote control 757's for years ~ as a matter of fact, these landings are more accurate than humane pilot landings ~ If you watch the ground crews working on commerical airlines out on the tarmacs, you will see them hook-up their "roll around consoles" to these jets which takes over "full control" of these planes ~ Once connected the pilots have no control whatsoever over these aircraft ~

As for the building uprights, these were what the buildings were "suspended" on ~ sorta like free standing with attachments ~ it is absolutely impossible that these beams would all break apart with the same slanted cuts ~ if you were to buy the pancakel effect, then these uprights would have remained independant and would have remained mostly entact with some twists, etc ~ If was also a bit suspect that these [Thermite cut beams] were rapidly hauled off in a caravan of trucks that had GPS systems installed to monitor them so they could get evidence loaded on bargages and off to China for salvage sales??

Of all of the hundreds of unanswered questions, I find that the most "hard to swallow' is that a fairly fragile airframe of these jets can just blow right through 3 walls of 3 feet thick re-enforced w steel walls of the Pentagon?? Many small missiles will not even do this feat!!!

And for the noted scientist that were trying to explain away everything; I never heard their explanation of how all of these cars in the surrounding areas were catching on fire and explosing from the "INSIDE" out and and not ignited from the outside in by smoke and dust? EMP of their electrical systems....
There have been hundreds of takeoffs and landings ... (show quote)



Your first paragraph is simply nonsensical. Not only does it not make sense I think it is meant to be a joke. "Rollaroundconsoles". Where did you drag that from? Automatic landings more accurate than manual? Total garbage. The auto landing is done when the vis is too low for the pilot to see the runway but if he can see he is always capable of putting the airplane right where he wants it on landing. The auto land does not improve the accuracy, just allows it to be legal when the vis is too low for a visual landing. And so far there is NO Automatic Takeoff system in a commercial airliner. It could be fitted but it is NEVER done and there are no systems available in these types of aircraft to allow it to happen. Military airplanes designed for the purpose can do it but even then I doubt that it would actually take place especially with people on board. The pilot can easily take off even with zero visibility and can do it accurately so why bother with auto systems?

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Apr 27, 2018 21:21:37   #
Carol Kelly
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I need time to read this, will reply again tomorrow.


I may be one of the sheeple, but I can’t wrap my mind around any of this. What’s to be gained here? How would we feel if our loved ones were blown to bits or burned to toast and not by enemies, but friendly fire so to speak? If it can’t be proven , what good is it to drag it out again?

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Apr 27, 2018 21:31:33   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Don't waste your time, bubba, I've already seen them all. Not a single attempt to explain how two 110 story towers were rigged for explosive demolition is feasible.

What leaves my head spinning is how many people are so disconnected from reality that they will fall for any conspiracy that fits their personal agenda. You for one, have posted dozens of conspiracy theories of all varieties without objectivity, reason, logic or critical thought. Your apparent distrust of your fellow human beings and your unwavering hostility toward government is the driving force behind everything you post here.
Don't waste your time, bubba, I've already seen th... (show quote)


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You can think whatever you like, I seriously just don’t care what you think about me though, I know I’m right and you’ve been brainwashed with so much bullcrap you can’t see any other scenario...

I’m not here for anyone’s accolades either although they are nice of course.
I’m here to post and expose the Lies, wreckage, Trickery and Deceit..
I’m here to show you what they’ve done all the while they spin it to you otherwise (hence your programming)
I’m here to show you who Needs to be put in the dirt and in this case the Bankster families with Bush and operatives from A to Z are guilty of MURDER Flat OUT !

You see the Same schools of thought can’t trick you with your Fireman’s Science of Chemicals and Physics because the result is catastrophic and deadly... same applies to mathematics...

Unless of course the usual Sick n Twisted Mother Ph**kers above are building a Bomb or false flag...

Isn’t it awesome how no matter which way you slice it everything circles back to the perpetrators.

In conclusion you’re right about 2 things:

I don’t trust my fellow human Lying, cheatin, stealing, backstabbing, 2 faced, scheming, murdering, filthy beings and I’m certainly not letting off the Throttle until this Fraud Government is removed and put in the dirt too.

You have a great deal of learning to go to understand how evil and dangerous our Society has become,
To see what happened to our great Republic
To come to terms with the toxic evil spreading, the invasions, the plots to destabilize us... it’s all around you and I don’t need to further list the details here.

You are either oblivious to it and think everything’s just normal as always, that this is just the way things are and will always be... you’re living in a LIE !

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Apr 27, 2018 21:31:52   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I may be one of the sheeple, but I can’t wrap my mind around any of this. What’s to be gained here? How would we feel if our loved ones were blown to bits or burned to toast and not by enemies, but friendly fire so to speak? If it can’t be proven , what good is it to drag it out again?


Exactly Carol.....These conspiracy theorists are a little coo coo for coco puffs!!!!

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Apr 27, 2018 21:40:23   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I realize it is convenient for you to totally ignore the human factor in all this and rely solely on printed material, or photos and videos, but the fact remains that 256 people and 19 hijackers aboard those planes were killed instantly. 2702 others died in the fires and the collapses.

9/11 was a human tragedy, Sici, those who were killed, those who did the killing, and those who are suffering for the rest of their lives. In light of that, what was or was not printed on paper is irrelevant. What is relevant are the testimonials of thousands of family members, friends and associates of those who died.
I realize it is convenient for you to totally igno... (show quote)


>>>>

What is relevant is the unrelenting pursuit of the truth to expose and bring the Household names to a jury of our Peers in Shackles,
prosecute,
convict,
Sentence
and Execute on the National Lawn for the World to see.

This is what needs to happen to the perpetrators who walk amongst us and this will bring Closure to those you mention.

Do not Justify the acts or the suffering to guys like me, we no longer subscribe to your line of thinking.

It’s OVER and they’re going to Pay for it one way or the Hard way.

Now sit back and watch what is revealed in the coming months and years as investigators continue to dig.

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Apr 27, 2018 21:42:51   #
Sicilianthing
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I may be one of the sheeple, but I can’t wrap my mind around any of this. What’s to be gained here? How would we feel if our loved ones were blown to bits or burned to toast and not by enemies, but friendly fire so to speak? If it can’t be proven , what good is it to drag it out again?


>>>>

Because they’ve lied to you.

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Apr 27, 2018 21:44:04   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
There have been hundreds of takeoffs and landings with remote control 757's for years ~ as a matter of fact, these landings are more accurate than humane pilot landings ~ If you watch the ground crews working on commerical airlines out on the tarmacs, you will see them hook-up their "roll around consoles" to these jets which takes over "full control" of these planes ~ Once connected the pilots have no control whatsoever over these aircraft ~

As for the building uprights, these were what the buildings were "suspended" on ~ sorta like free standing with attachments ~ it is absolutely impossible that these beams would all break apart with the same slanted cuts ~ if you were to buy the pancakel effect, then these uprights would have remained independant and would have remained mostly entact with some twists, etc ~ If was also a bit suspect that these [Thermite cut beams] were rapidly hauled off in a caravan of trucks that had GPS systems installed to monitor them so they could get evidence loaded on bargages and off to China for salvage sales??

Of all of the hundreds of unanswered questions, I find that the most "hard to swallow' is that a fairly fragile airframe of these jets can just blow right through 3 walls of 3 feet thick re-enforced w steel walls of the Pentagon?? Many small missiles will not even do this feat!!!

And for the noted scientist that were trying to explain away everything; I never heard their explanation of how all of these cars in the surrounding areas were catching on fire and explosing from the "INSIDE" out and and not ignited from the outside in by smoke and dust? EMP of their electrical systems....
There have been hundreds of takeoffs and landings ... (show quote)

A thousand and one questions and theories and nary a one explained to the satisfaction of all. I'm not qualified to offer any insight as I don't know about why certain support beams would be cut in a uniform fashion if, in fact, such was the case. Was the debris shipped to China in secrecy? No idea! But I do know something about training for unique operations. Time invested. The extreme value placed on 'shut-mouth'. The acceptance of the odds that say "a round trip isn't in the cards". Cognizant of such intricacies, odds, and pressures, I am asked to recognize 14 goat ranchers and 5 team captains, 3 of which had the extensive education of a G.E.D., managed to train for a period of 2 years spanning half the world w/o ever whispering a syllable of their end game. Would not such commitment to a brotherhood and tenacity to product development afford those 19 men the title, *greatest soldiers since the Spartans*? I DON'T THINK SO! CAN'T SEE IT!

What I can see, the PATRIOT ACT: loss of some real civil liberties the severe curtailing of hundreds of others TSA. HOMELAND SECURITY: (the Homeland is Germany folks. We Americans never spoke like that) Opened with 5,000 government employees. In its second year 50,000 new employees. I.C.E. (paramilitary) Less than 20 years 500,000 new tenured federal employees. What can I SEE? TAXATION W/O REPRESENTATION! EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT! FORFEITURE OF RIGHTS! And if YOU can't, You are in denial. I see young adults, American born babies, who have never know America prior the Patriot Act! THINK PEOPLE; the shrinking of your civil liberties continues at the same time the Bush/Cheney dynasty grows
Mr. President, drain this swamp

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Apr 27, 2018 21:55:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
king hall wrote:
A thousand and one questions and theories and nary a one explained to the satisfaction of all. I'm not qualified to offer any insight as I don't know about why certain support beams would be cut in a uniform fashion if, in fact, such was the case. Was the debris shipped to China in secrecy? No idea! But I do know something about training for unique operations. Time invested. The extreme value placed on 'shut-mouth'. The acceptance of the odds that say "a round trip isn't in the cards". Cognizant of such intricacies, odds, and pressures, I am asked to recognize 14 goat ranchers and 5 team captains, 3 of which had the extensive education of a G.E.D., managed to train for a period of 2 years spanning half the world w/o ever whispering a syllable of their end game. Would not such commitment to a brotherhood and tenacity to product development afford those 19 men the title, *greatest soldiers since the Spartans*? I DON'T THINK SO! CAN'T SEE IT!

What I can see, the PATRIOT ACT: loss of some real civil liberties the severe curtailing of hundreds of others TSA. HOMELAND SECURITY: (the Homeland is Germany folks. We Americans never spoke like that) Opened with 5,000 government employees. In its second year 50,000 new employees. I.C.E. (paramilitary) Less than 20 years 500,000 new tenured federal employees. What can I SEE? TAXATION W/O REPRESENTATION! EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT! FORFEITURE OF RIGHTS! And if YOU can't, You are in denial. I see young adults, American born babies, who have never know America prior the Patriot Act! THINK PEOPLE; the shrinking of your civil liberties continues at the same time the Bush/Cheney dynasty grows
Mr. President, drain this swamp
A thousand and one questions and theories and nary... (show quote)

Seriously,King i thought you were different..You really buy into this conspiracy crap that our government OUR GOVERNMENT somehow made 9/11 happen???What was the purpose???Why would they let 3000 plus innocent Americans die on that horrible,horrible day??? Where is your proof???? These are horrible accusations against our gov...I have friends that lost family and friends and loved ones and you are saying our Government did this without any concrete proof????....This is totally insane!!!!

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Apr 27, 2018 22:12:31   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

You can think whatever you like, I seriously just don’t care what you think about me though, I know I’m right and you’ve been brainwashed with so much bullcrap you can’t see any other scenario...

page report "Collateral Damang I’m not here for anyone’s accolades either although they are nice of course.
I’m here to post and expose the Lies, wreckage, Trickery and Deceit..
I’m here to show you what they’ve done all the while they spin it to you otherwise (hence your programming)
I’m here to show you who Needs to be put in the dirt and in this case the Bankster families with Bush and operatives from A to Z are guilty of MURDER Flat OUT !

You see the Same schools of thought can’t trick you with your Fireman’s Science of Chemicals and Physics because the result is catastrophic and deadly... same applies to mathematics...

Unless of course the usual Sick n Twisted Mother Ph**kers above are building a Bomb or false flag...

Isn’t it awesome how no matter which way you slice it everything circles back to the perpetrators.

In conclusion you’re right about 2 things:

I don’t trust my fellow human Lying, cheatin, stealing, backstabbing, 2 faced, scheming, murdering, filthy beings and I’m certainly not letting off the Throttle until this Fraud Government is removed and put in the dirt too.

You have a great deal of learning to go to understand how evil and dangerous our Society has become,
To see what happened to our great Republic
To come to terms with the toxic evil spreading, the invasions, the plots to destabilize us... it’s all around you and I don’t need to further list the details here.

You are either oblivious to it and think everything’s just normal as always, that this is just the way things are and will always be... you’re living in a LIE !
>>>> br br You can think whatever you... (show quote)


Sici, you posted above:
"I’m here to show you who Needs to be put in the dirt and in this case the Bankster families with Bush and operatives from A to Z are guilty of MURDER Flat OUT !"

Let's figure this out at a slower pace without getting so hotheaded. I wish to direct you to another topic I recently posted that you responded to and OPP immediately shut down because I referenced a website for Campaign For Liberty to Audit the Fed. Do you recall this?:

If you can’t do the math you don’t know who is cheating you. Time to Audit the Fed:
my newly edited website is: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-128983-1.html

I reposted this topic under the same title a second time without the referenced website to Campaign for Liberty. You are right that 9/11 is a banking caper. I ask you to go back to my topic that you responded to and read the two pages of new conversations and the data I posted regarding a 59 page report titled: "Collateral Damage 9/11" by E.P. Heidner:

This article by EP Heidner, written on 28 June, 2008,
https://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Collateral-Damage-911-black_eagle_fund_trust.pdf
pages 1-59
Full text of "Collateral-Damage-911-black_eagle_fund_trust.pdf (PDF mirror)
Collateral Damage: U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on
September 11, 2001

and a sequel to the original report, also by E.P. Heidner:

https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Document:Collateral_Damage_911&printable=yes
From Wikispooks
by E. P. Heidner 2010/09/01

In particular, please address the subsequent data I posted explaining the misguided assumption that this banking caper over CIA Black Ops gold (the BlackEagle Trust of NAZI gold and the Golden Lilly treasures of Japanese General Yamashito of WWII) and the later 1989 Russian Mafia lootings of the Kremlin's gold (Project Hammer) attributed to GH Bush, instead of the Clinton Crime family and their protectors, James Comey and Robert Mueller.

These gold treasures seized as war booty are kept outside of the US Treasury and the CIA needs to cash them out by creating bonds that mature with in a decade. The Kremlin gold bonds created on September 12, 1991 matured on September 11, 2001, mostly housed at the Bank of New York, its headquarters in the Twin Towers, where the Russian Mafia was still engaged in organized crime. What happened to the other 800 banks situated in the World Trade Center during their scheduled midnight trades of $400 billion dollars is the mystery of the millenium. Auditing the Federal Reserve Bank is the only way we can track their bailouts of the 800 banks in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and convict the US Intelligence community, the Clintons, Comey and Mueller of treason.

I cannot repost our discussions again, so ask you to go back and pull up my other topic:
If you can’t do the math you don’t know who is cheating you. Time to Audit the Fed:
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-128983-1.html

I ask everybody here on our forum to take your time and read this material thoroughly that we all might put our heads together and solve this [real conspiracy, a banking caper coverup on 9/11/2001[/b]

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Apr 27, 2018 22:22:34   #
Sicilianthing
 
king hall wrote:
A thousand and one questions and theories and nary a one explained to the satisfaction of all. I'm not qualified to offer any insight as I don't know about why certain support beams would be cut in a uniform fashion if, in fact, such was the case. Was the debris shipped to China in secrecy? No idea! But I do know something about training for unique operations. Time invested. The extreme value placed on 'shut-mouth'. The acceptance of the odds that say "a round trip isn't in the cards". Cognizant of such intricacies, odds, and pressures, I am asked to recognize 14 goat ranchers and 5 team captains, 3 of which had the extensive education of a G.E.D., managed to train for a period of 2 years spanning half the world w/o ever whispering a syllable of their end game. Would not such commitment to a brotherhood and tenacity to product development afford those 19 men the title, *greatest soldiers since the Spartans*? I DON'T THINK SO! CAN'T SEE IT!

What I can see, the PATRIOT ACT: loss of some real civil liberties the severe curtailing of hundreds of others TSA. HOMELAND SECURITY: (the Homeland is Germany folks. We Americans never spoke like that) Opened with 5,000 government employees. In its second year 50,000 new employees. I.C.E. (paramilitary) Less than 20 years 500,000 new tenured federal employees. What can I SEE? TAXATION W/O REPRESENTATION! EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT! FORFEITURE OF RIGHTS! And if YOU can't, You are in denial. I see young adults, American born babies, who have never know America prior the Patriot Act! THINK PEOPLE; the shrinking of your civil liberties continues at the same time the Bush/Cheney dynasty grows
Mr. President, drain this swamp
A thousand and one questions and theories and nary... (show quote)


>>>>

Bullseye JACKPOT !

But Trump has been compromised and lost his balls... I will be proving this point between July 4th and Dec 31st.

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Apr 27, 2018 22:26:19   #
Sicilianthing
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Sici, you posted above:
"I’m here to show you who Needs to be put in the dirt and in this case the Bankster families with Bush and operatives from A to Z are guilty of MURDER Flat OUT !"

Let's figure this out at a slower pace without getting so hotheaded. I wish to direct you to another topic I recently posted that you responded to and OPP immediately shut down because I referenced a website for Campaign For Liberty to Audit the Fed. Do you recall this?:

If you can’t do the math you don’t know who is cheating you. Time to Audit the Fed:
my newly edited website is: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-128983-1.html

I reposted this topic under the same title a second time without the referenced website to Campaign for Liberty. You are right that 9/11 is a banking caper. I ask you to go back to my topic that you responded to and read the two pages of new conversations and the data I posted regarding a 59 page report titled: "Collateral Damage 9/11" by E.P. Heidner:

This article by EP Heidner, written on 28 June, 2008,
https://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Collateral-Damage-911-black_eagle_fund_trust.pdf
pages 1-59
Full text of "Collateral-Damage-911-black_eagle_fund_trust.pdf (PDF mirror)
Collateral Damage: U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on
September 11, 2001

and a sequel to the original report, also by E.P. Heidner:

https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Document:Collateral_Damage_911&printable=yes
From Wikispooks
by E. P. Heidner 2010/09/01

In particular, please address the subsequent data I posted explaining the misguided assumption that this banking caper over CIA Black Ops gold (the BlackEagle Trust of NAZI gold and the Golden Lilly treasures of Japanese General Yamashito of WWII) and the later 1989 Russian Mafia lootings of the Kremlin's gold (Project Hammer) attributed to GH Bush, instead of the Clinton Crime family and their protectors, James Comey and Robert Mueller.

These gold treasures seized as war booty are kept outside of the US Treasury and the CIA needs to cash them out by creating bonds that mature with in a decade. The Kremlin gold bonds created on September 12, 1991 matured on September 11, 2001, mostly housed at the Bank of New York, its headquarters in the Twin Towers, where the Russian Mafia was still engaged in organized crime. What happened to the other 800 banks situated in the World Trade Center during their scheduled midnight trades of $400 billion dollars is the mystery of the millenium. Auditing the Federal Reserve Bank is the only way we can track their bailouts of the 800 banks in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and convict the US Intelligence community, the Clintons, Comey and Mueller of treason.

I cannot repost our discussions again, so ask you to go back and pull up my other topic:
If you can’t do the math you don’t know who is cheating you. Time to Audit the Fed:
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-128983-1.html
Sici, you posted above: br "I’m here to show... (show quote)


>>>>

yes Indeed and I remember so I will go back there over the weekend and review everything again...
Thank You so much for your efforts...

Please stay in the fight it’s going to get really ugly in the next 6months.

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Apr 27, 2018 22:26:48   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

Bullseye JACKPOT !

But Trump has been compromised and lost his balls... I will be proving this point between July 4th and Dec 31st.


Trump has not been compromised, and he is still perfectly proportioned, in all due respect to the President.

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Apr 27, 2018 22:27:14   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
There were no commercial plane crashes on September 11, 2001
by Editor

Mongoose
Thanks to Alert Reader.

EVERY supposed one of the 256 passengers on 9-11 paid for their tickets in cash on THE MORNING 0f 9-11! NOT ONE used a single credit card and there are no electronic receipts from anyone or any company anywhere in the world. Why? There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.

Except for the supposed Atta and all of his massive incriminating evidence on a supposed suicide flight….NOT ONE single supposed passenger parked a car at any airport on 9-11 NOT ONE. Why? There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
There were no commercial plane crashes on Septembe... (show quote)



I always loved how Atta's passport magically was recovered at ground zero! It's the magic bullet theory all over again. The jet engine that was supposedly recovered at ground zero did not match the engines used on those planes either. Also, read and review pictures on Tower #6.

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Apr 27, 2018 22:28:34   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

yes Indeed and I remember so I will go back there over the weekend and review everything again...
Thank You so much for your efforts...

Please stay in the fight it’s going to get really ugly in the next 6months.


You are quite welcomed. This is going to take some new thinking.

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Apr 27, 2018 22:29:40   #
Sicilianthing
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Trump has not been compromised, and he is still perfectly proportioned.


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No you are wrong, you are all wrong... Trump has been compromised and I will prove it between July 4th and Jan 1

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