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Feb 24, 2014 10:05:20   #
deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston
 
Just watch the videos about islam.

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Feb 24, 2014 10:06:54   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Oh you never know,, some people are not as eloquent, but are very very concerned,,, one of the major problems is trusting others. That is something that so many people have been burned on, that they really dont want to try anymore.

What can be learned from our political mess, is simply if you dont govern yourself,, ie through religion, through morals, through decency, education, or even sex, someone will fill the void and govern you.


Perhaps you mis understood my point or read something in that I had not intended, but I appreciate the concern.

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Feb 24, 2014 10:07:59   #
deb_bus Loc: fort worth and wichita falls tx, and houston
 
Just watch the videos about islam.

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Feb 24, 2014 10:27:11   #
Ve'hoe
 
You know what I think,,,, that is something we could discuss over some pitchers of beer and shuffle board,,,, may take several nights.... and probably not accomplish much,,, but what the hell??

Btfkr wrote:
what?! How can both of us be right? :?

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Feb 24, 2014 11:17:02   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
You know what I think,,,, that is something we could discuss over some pitchers of beer and shuffle board,,,, may take several nights.... and probably not accomplish much,,, but what the hell??


Now that my friend you are probably right about :wink: And while we are talking, and of course not to offend, just looking for answers. In your traditional culture weren't you somewhat "socialistic"?

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Feb 24, 2014 11:42:38   #
madshark
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Like, old fashioned, hate mongering, venomspewing, racists, worn out ridiculous old military idiots,,,,etc etc etc,,,

The problem is, the left has had control of ALL conversations for so long, and they have brought this on themselves. I have warned people here too, and got my a-- sandpapered for the attempt.

The Left is losing the deathgrip on the conversations, and people are finding their voices around the phoney limitations of politcal correctness and the purported and phoney civility the left has nurtured and beaten the middle and right sides of the conversation with for the last 40 years....

Congratulations gentlemen you awaked the sleeping giant. Now DEAL with him,,, cause he/she is pissed and tired of being shut down.
Like, old fashioned, hate mongering, venomspewing,... (show quote)


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Feb 24, 2014 12:42:58   #
Ve'hoe
 
Yes indeed,,, people dont get that, but is was true,,,, the Chief however, was a pseudo-political "appointment" but could be inherited,,, however it could be taken by force ie: Red Cloud, and Crazy Horse (they killed the incumbents)

We had no "money" per se, but there were "things" of value, and like all societies,, money (er things of value) talks,,,,the rest of us walk. So there was greed and avarice even in the absence of $$$.

Either way it was NOT all rosey and wunnerful afore the white man came.....it was pretty damned brutal, not like Dances with Wolves.....

Btfkr wrote:
Now that my friend you are probably right about :wink: And while we are talking, and of course not to offend, just looking for answers. In your traditional culture weren't you somewhat "socialistic"?

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Feb 24, 2014 13:14:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Yes indeed,,, people dont get that, but is was true,,,, the Chief however, was a pseudo-political "appointment" but could be inherited,,, however it could be taken by force ie: Red Cloud, and Crazy Horse (they killed the incumbents)

We had no "money" per se, but there were "things" of value, and like all societies,, money (er things of value) talks,,,,the rest of us walk. So there was greed and avarice even in the absence of $$$.

Either way it was NOT all rosey and wunnerful afore the white man came.....it was pretty damned brutal, not like Dances with Wolves.....
Yes indeed,,, people dont get that, but is was tru... (show quote)


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Feb 24, 2014 13:41:25   #
Art
 
ginnyt wrote:
Art,

I have the same difficulty. People post things that sound so harsh. I then respond with a clam down things could be worse for them to say....I was making a joke or it was sarcasm. Without the benefit of an emotioncon or a LOL... something to give a hint to the emotion, how the heck are we supposed to know. Anyway, I was not trying to be critical of anyone, just inviting the post creator back into the conversation.


:)

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Feb 24, 2014 15:21:04   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
banjojack wrote:
Quickly, deficient one. We don't have all day.


All he needs is ky jelly.... :oops: :oops: :oops:

I shouldn't have said that. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Feb 24, 2014 16:41:21   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
deb_bus wrote:
I've been saying oscandal is a muslim for a long time. If you didn't watch all the links, then you are ignorant. Sharia law is alive and well in America. And it needs to be stopped. Oscandal has an agenda and it includes sharia law in America. He is a scumbag that is selling out our country. He has got to be stopped. We cannot allow him to bring over any more muslims, who hate us Americans. They only want to muslimize America. Oscandal is at the top of the list of muslims. He was born in kenya - a muslim country. He is a muslim. The only ones who don't watch the links provided above are the ones who will support their God oscandal - no matter what. It's sheer stupidity on their part. I find out my information from Christian websites that tell what's going on first hand. I've been knowing the muslims' agenda for a long time. I also listen to Hal Lindsey who reports all this kind of info and how it's related to the end times. It will be Christians against muslims and their islam law of sharia. Just wait and see. Anybody that doesn't believe this is too scared to admit it's going on. They just want to hide behind their beliefs. It's much more than democrat and republican parties. This is the time to start pulling together and start fighting against sharia law in America. It needs to start with what our kids are being taught in the schools. It needs to start now.
I've been saying oscandal is a muslim for a long t... (show quote)


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Any "religion" that calls for "killing all who do not believe in Allah" is not a religion, but a tyrannical government. People say that Islam is a "religion" when it is really a way of governing a nation. One of the problems with dealing with Islamic people is that those that are not "Islamic" still treat it as a "religion". If it was called what it really is: a form of tyrannical government, even the liberal-minded people might take heed and react differently.
BTW, I have been saying the same thing about obummer since he was a do-nothing senator/community organizer. I also disagreed with Limbaugh, Hannity, et al on the conservative side that "poo-pooed" the idea that he was a Muslim. I told anyone that would listen that someday they would find out that he was Muslim and it's still going to happen. Those that deny it are ashamed of not vetting him prior to his so-called "elections".

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Feb 24, 2014 19:12:31   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Yes indeed,,, people dont get that, but is was true,,,, the Chief however, was a pseudo-political "appointment" but could be inherited,,, however it could be taken by force ie: Red Cloud, and Crazy Horse (they killed the incumbents)

We had no "money" per se, but there were "things" of value, and like all societies,, money (er things of value) talks,,,,the rest of us walk. So there was greed and avarice even in the absence of $$$.

Either way it was NOT all rosey and wunnerful afore the white man came.....it was pretty damned brutal, not like Dances with Wolves.....
Yes indeed,,, people dont get that, but is was tru... (show quote)



Thank you for that insight! Yes, greed. A not so nice part of human nature. And knowing heritage I totally understand you distrust of government and white man!

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Feb 24, 2014 19:15:36   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
PhilosophyMan wrote:
I find it funny.
there are times in some topics and threads that seem like it is two gangs talking.
I feel like some one is going to pull out a gun and start waiving it around. you guys refer to each other in a funny way, like you are on different sides of a DMZ from each other, behind a bunker with a wire-can phone, wittingly insulting one another. borders seem to have been established, who's on what side.
all the centrists tend to get stuck in the middle, and get shot at from either side when they express a distinctly leaning opinion.
please do not take offense to this, but it is quite funny the way I imagine it.
I wish to have some conversations, and some topics posted to actually try to DISCUSS the issues that plague us, but this place at times can seem like,"oh you don't agree with my position on this issue? well your mother is ugly!"
I know I am quite naive when it comes to that but hey, at least I can still maintain a mind fresh to all views (sort of,,,,kinda,,,,maybe.)
thoughts?
I find it funny. br there are times in some topics... (show quote)


I'm glad you see the humor in it. Lots of funny twists and turns to just about every topic. There are many here that will jump to the name calling when they determine the most minor of slights. It is funny to watch, but it is also human nature.

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Feb 24, 2014 19:18:09   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
I'm glad you see the humor in it. Lots of funny twists and turns to just about every topic. There are many here that will jump to the name calling when they determine the most minor of slights. It is funny to watch, but it is also human nature.

I agree with you guys, even though I have to plead guilty to what you're referring to. I wish there more posters like the two of you, because it does gets pretty insane around here.

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Feb 24, 2014 19:23:29   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
LAPhil wrote:
I agree with you guys, even though I have to plead guilty to what you're referring to. I wish there more posters like the two of you, because it does gets pretty insane around here.


Shoot fire Phil. Half of us here are insane in one way or another. :lol:

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