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Apr 25, 2018 14:10:25   #
son of witless
 
Morgan wrote:
Yes, overpopulation, except that has more to do not with poverty, but religion and culture. Monogamy is not the majority rule in the world and that creates many, many people, and trying to change ones religious beliefs is a big boulder to move up the hill.


Poverty, religion, and culture cannot be separated out. Religion and culture are part of the strategies that people employ to survive in difficult places. If you can raise living standards population takes care of itself. Western nations are an example. Most of them have a declining population problem. Their birth rates are too low. Japan in reality is a Western nation and has that problem. One of the reasons for it's aggression in the early 20th century up to WW2 was it's high birth rate. Now it is peaceful and rich and it's birth rate is too low.

If it can be done in Japan, it can be done anywhere. I agree that in certain regions when economic times are good certain cultures and religions raise their birth rates instead of using prosperity to make permanent improvements in living standards.

Which brings me back to one of my central points. If over population in certain parts of the globe is a primary factor in poverty and suffering, then why are liberals so jacked up to raise the population densities of North America ?

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Apr 25, 2018 14:17:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
I am in no way criticizing the American way of life. Personally I try to leave as large a carbon footprint as I can because it is a sign of good living. Having said that, I in fact leave a very small carbon footprint compared most of the liberals I am related to. My small carbon footprint is strictly involuntary on my part. I happen to be in walking distance of most places I need to go and I bike for exercise, not to save the freaking planet.

When I was young people who knew me made fun of me because I used to turn my heat off and let the winter time temperature in my house go down to the low 50s and even 40s. That was poverty, not environmentalism on my part. Now I am older, fatter, married, and richer so it is in the 70s or even 80s in the winter.

Our modern appliances all consume energy and emit Carbon waste. A guy with no air conditioning, cooking his food over a wood fire is not producing the amount of CO2 that even a modest living American such as I produce just by opening my refrigerator and having a beer.
I am in no way criticizing the American way of lif... (show quote)


Every time you open a beer, it emits co2 into the atmosphere. Then there the belches of co2 from drinking it. We need tougher restrictions on beer!

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Apr 25, 2018 14:18:15   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
In response to: Apple Now Runs On 100% Green Energy

Apple has Lost a lot of ""Greeen"" the past few days with their new ""google app overloaded"" $1000.00 Iphone.
Heck if folks want a great smart phone go for an Unlocked, pre android 51, International phone that can be stripped out, rooted, used as a Router/Programmable VPN options/open DNS programmable, & almost a dozen radio frequencies to choose from. etc.

OH, Thats right...ISP's in the U.S. don't want you to have the International Phones...I have 2...They've been re-flashed
and are more secure/quieter/use less data than the "Black Phone"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-24/spectacular-miss-key-apple-supplier-paints-ominous-picture-iphone-demand

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Apr 25, 2018 14:23:34   #
son of witless
 
archie bunker wrote:
Every time you open a beer, it emits co2 into the atmosphere. Then there the belches of co2 from drinking it. We need tougher restrictions on beer!


Don't even joke about that. Democrats monitor this board and that is a very bad idea to put in from of their pointy heads.

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Apr 25, 2018 14:41:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Don't even joke about that. Democrats monitor this board and that is a very bad idea to put in from of their pointy heads.


Sorry..........

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Apr 25, 2018 15:02:37   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Don't even joke about that. Democrats monitor this board and that is a very bad idea to put in from of their pointy heads.


The more Co2 there is, the more it makes plant's grow...so if the Antifa SJW's dont like it, There are some
Mar's missions planned...I hear Elon Musk is teaming up with Jeff Beelzebub, in building some pretty shaky
blow up in outer space rockets...

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Apr 25, 2018 15:33:48   #
son of witless
 
11r20 wrote:
The more Co2 there is, the more it makes plant's grow...so if the Antifa SJW's dont like it, There are some
Mar's missions planned...I hear Elon Musk is teaming up with Jeff Beelzebub, in building some pretty shaky
blow up in outer space rockets...


Therefore Global Warming is self correcting. I think it should be a government mandate that we all grow gardens. I think those of us who already garden should be paid by the government for the carbon our plants take out of the atmosphere. I want my carbon credits.

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Apr 25, 2018 15:49:36   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
I want my carbon credits.


this is sarc, right?

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Apr 25, 2018 17:19:09   #
son of witless
 
11r20 wrote:
this is sarc, right?


Yea but. When the next brain dead Democrat moves into the White House, you see if my joke doesn't actually happen.

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Apr 25, 2018 19:41:48   #
Morgan
 
son of witless wrote:
Poverty, religion, and culture cannot be separated out. Religion and culture are part of the strategies that people employ to survive in difficult places. If you can raise living standards population takes care of itself. Western nations are an example. Most of them have a declining population problem. Their birth rates are too low. Japan in reality is a Western nation and has that problem. One of the reasons for it's aggression in the early 20th century up to WW2 was it's high birth rate. Now it is peaceful and rich and it's birth rate is too low.
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If it can be done in Japan, it can be done anywhere. I agree that in certain regions when economic times are good certain cultures and religions raise their birth rates instead of using prosperity to make permanent improvements in living standards.

Which brings me back to one of my central points. If over population in certain parts of the globe is a primary factor in poverty and suffering, then why are liberals so jacked up to raise the population densities of North America ?
Poverty, religion, and culture cannot be separated... (show quote)


Yes, of course they can be separated out, it's only a matter of changing ones thought. It can be done through educating other countries and convincing them to change their habits and lifestyle and how it will benefit their way of life. It is already happening, that's a good thing.


I'm sorry but how does your mind even go there...to equate what other cultures do around the world with overpopulating... to accusing liberals being of "jacked up" to raise the population in America...what an absurdity, please tell me where do you get this idea from, I thought they were the ones getting all the abortions?

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Apr 25, 2018 19:43:33   #
Morgan
 
son of witless wrote:
Therefore Global Warming is self correcting. I think it should be a government mandate that we all grow gardens. I think those of us who already garden should be paid by the government for the carbon our plants take out of the atmosphere. I want my carbon credits.


You're getting it every time you eat em

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Apr 25, 2018 19:46:41   #
Morgan
 
11r20 wrote:
The more Co2 there is, the more it makes plant's grow...so if the Antifa SJW's dont like it, There are some
Mar's missions planned...I hear Elon Musk is teaming up with Jeff Beelzebub, in building some pretty shaky
blow up in outer space rockets...


As the good French President said today in his speech...and I quote: "there is no Planet B"

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Apr 25, 2018 19:57:13   #
Morgan
 
son of witless wrote:
Therefore Global Warming is self correcting. I think it should be a government mandate that we all grow gardens. I think those of us who already garden should be paid by the government for the carbon our plants take out of the atmosphere. I want my carbon credits.


In the long run the earth very well might self-adjust but we'll all be dead beforehand from that transition, that is if the planet doesn't burn away.

People are planting gardens on rooftops in the cities, good for them. I remember as a child thinking it would be cool if we grew ivy over all the buildings, ha maybe it wasn't such a bad idea after all. LOL

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Apr 25, 2018 19:59:50   #
Morgan
 
son of witless wrote:
Don't even joke about that. Democrats monitor this board and that is a very bad idea to put in from of their pointy heads.


Not democrats at all, but from the Republic

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Apr 25, 2018 20:28:37   #
son of witless
 
Morgan wrote:
Yes, of course they can be separated out, it's only a matter of changing ones thought. It can be done through educating other countries and convincing them to change their habits and lifestyle and how it will benefit their way of life. It is already happening, that's a good thing.


I'm sorry but how does your mind even go there...to equate what other cultures do around the world with overpopulating... to accusing liberals being of "jacked up" to raise the population in America...what an absurdity, please tell me where do you get this idea from, I thought they were the ones getting all the abortions?
Yes, of course they can be separated out, it's onl... (show quote)


You want to know where I get the idea of over population from ? Scuse me ? For political gain. Liberals want unlimited, that means with no limits, immigration into the US. Mother Earth is filled with Billions of desperately poor people . Where they live royally sucks. I am sorry, but we can't take them all. To pretend that we can without degrading our lives is liberal fantasy. Most of these desperately poor places are over crowded. That means that if there were not so many people jammed into these places, a lot of them would be or could be as good as America is.

Granted some of these places might easily handle their numbers or even greater numbers easily if technology improved, but you must deal with what is. Under existing conditions these places have too many people. Mexico has for years used the United States as a safety valve or to put it more bluntly, Mexico has used the United States as a dump for it's excess population for decades. The hope is that as Mexico has become more prosperous and it's birth rate has come down, Mexico no longers needs to do this. However, Central America and South America have replaced Mexico as exporters of excess people.

Should I even mention the thousands of people who want to come here from the Middle East after the Obama royally screwed that part of the World up by letting ISIS and the other bad guys win ?

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