Morgan

Sweet

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

JoyV

Where did the chart come from. Is it discretionary spending or mandatory spending (entitlements) or both? It appears to be discretionary spending which leave out the large entitlement spending in welfare programs. But also, food stamps are not the only example of welfare.

I've included a breakdown of 2015 spending, as well as a pie chart for 2017 when Trump had increased the defense budget. These are the official figures from the US Federal Government.

Estimated vs. Actual Federal Spending
for Fiscal Year 2015 from Federal Budgets

US Federal Government Outlays
Budgeted vs. Actual
-5yr -1yr Fiscal Year 2015 in $ billion +1yr +5yr
Estimates for FY 2015 Federal Outlays in US Budgets
Change


[+] Pensions 950.8 950.5 978.8 976.5 961.3 951.4 945.8
[+] Health Care 1,088.3 1,129.9 1,116.5 1,058.0 1,044.5 1,017.7 1,028.4
[+] Education 146.1 123.4 120.5 119.4 130.7 149.0 133.8
[+] Defense 900.7 878.5 777.7 823.2 839.9 813.9 798.0
[+] Welfare 396.7 378.7 397.3 388.3 394.2 383.5 369.7
[+] Protection 58.2 57.8 56.6 59.0 55.8 58.7 51.9
[+] Transportation 95.6 114.2 106.2 115.8 97.8 92.9 89.5
[+] General Government 33.6 28.7 29.0 31.7 27.9 25.0 25.7
[+] Other Spending 144.4 33.7 87.0 82.7 97.0 37.3 22.4
[+] Interest 571.1 494.3 390.4 253.6 251.9 229.2 223.2
[+] Balance -0.0 -0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -0.0
[+] Total Spending: Start chart 4,385.5 4,189.8 4,059.9 3,908.2 3,901.0 3,758.6 3,688.4
[+] Federal Deficit 751.9 606.7 609.7 576.5 563.6 582.5 438.5
[+] Gross Public Debt 18,917.2 19,775.5 19,426.5 19,147.8 18,713.5 18,627.6 18,120.1
Spending: budgeted estimated guesstimated4 actual

JoyV

I forgot to include a link to the site I used.

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/

Morgan

Just so you know this is not an official government site, it is simply titled US Government Spending, I'll check it out further... but fyi, Health and Human Services ($69.5 billion) is less than one-tenth of total military spending.

JoyV

The 2017 pie chart shows: Health 28%. Defense 21%.

So where did your figures come from? You say mine are not from an official government site, but neglect to say where your come from. I have not yet found a simple spending chart by category under the federal budget office. But I did find that in 2009, entitlement spending was 60%. That doesn't leave room for defense spending to be even slightly higher let alone 10 times higher.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/24995

And this pie chart shows that defense discretionary spending is slightly higher than discretionary spending omn other than defense. But far lower than entitlements which are non discretionary. This chart is from the CBO gov site.

Attached file:
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kankune Loc: Iowa

Hell they ran him out of Texas Peewee. Guys like that don't make it very long in your big, beautiful state!

Morgan

As long as Trump is in office, everything is corrupt, which includes the CBO, the House, the Senate, especially the White House, they all will lie and cheat for him including any financial reports. I am so disgusted I went to two government sites and both have been dismantled under Trumps administration, one being from within the Federal Census Bureau, which was the Federal Statistics Program, the Consolidated Federal Funds Report(CFFR)website and the on-line query system, for questions. Trump blows...Not to mention him gagging the EPA with any new research findings, he's scum.

Hers a little common sense though...aside from the BS reports, we do not out surpass entire countries in military expense, including all of it, from disabilities to pensions to our arsenal...while saying it's expense is below the cost of our welfare. I'm done here.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

To the bone.

Morgan

Thanks Bob, I am sooo angry right now with those sites being closed, he's a sneaky slimeball, hiding, hiding all the time, now he's hiding where the money...OUR money is really being spent, nothing but deceptions for this cow dung sewer rat.

JoyV

Look back in past years before Trump was president and you'll see thew defense spending was even smaller. And you still didn't say where your figures and pie chart came from. Btw, the CFFR, including online query system, was terminated in 2012. But of course that was Trump's fault wasn't it.

The Federal Financial Statistics program was terminated effective with the FY 2012 budget. The termination of the program results in the elimination of the Consolidated Federal Funds Report (CFFR), including the publication, downloadable data, and the On-Line Query System, as well as the annual Federal Aid to States Report (FAS). https://www.census.gov/library/publications/time-series/cffr.html

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

No need to be polite.

JoyV

So the termination was done by the president to hide where our money is being spent? Now that you know it was in 2012 and Obama was president will you still be angry? Or will you backpedal and say the termination was reasonable?

Morgan

Arrr, you're right that was polite...off with his head