Okay, first I'm not a Homophobe (which I believe would actually mean I had a fear of them), I am a Christian who actually understands the whole "do not judge others" thing, but I have a question.
Why do gays insist on marriage instead of maybe a "civil union" that would afford them the same rights (healthcare and other insurance, tax advantages, etc)? The way I understand it, "marriage" was a religious practice originally for the followers of God. Most (I know, not all), LGBT's don't believe in the traditional Godhead, so why do they object to anything that isn't a "marriage"?
Again, this is a serious question. I personally don't care, marriage has gone far from a religious ceremony (although, many people do have exactly that when they get married) into basically an agreement to "give it a shot for a year". Any rational explanations out there? Maybe I missed the whole thing and someone before Moses came up with marriages.
Bob
P.S. Civil union was just a name I thought made sense for what most people do today.
bobgssc wrote:
Okay, first I'm not a Homophobe (which I believe would actually mean I had a fear of them), I am a Christian who actually understands the whole "do not judge others" thing, but I have a question.
Why do gays insist on marriage instead of maybe a "civil union" that would afford them the same rights (healthcare and other insurance, tax advantages, etc)? The way I understand it, "marriage" was a religious practice originally for the followers of God. Most (I know, not all), LGBT's don't believe in the traditional Godhead, so why do they object to anything that isn't a "marriage"?
Again, this is a serious question. I personally don't care, marriage has gone far from a religious ceremony (although, many people do have exactly that when they get married) into basically an agreement to "give it a shot for a year". Any rational explanations out there? Maybe I missed the whole thing and someone before Moses came up with marriages.
Bob
P.S. Civil union was just a name I thought made sense for what most people do today.
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Human beings are big on symbols. Gay people want to engage as much in marriage symbols as straight people do.
For both gays and straights, marriage is hardly what it once was. At one time, it was the license to fully express sexuality. Those days are gone. The last Gallup poll in 2013 confirmed that over 70% of Americans are quite o.k. with non-marital sex. The majority of heterosexual Americans are no longer bothered or threatened by gay marriage. Its a new world, a changed world. We all know how well Republicans adapt and embrace new concepts. They don't want to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. They are more comfortable with the 18th.
In my opinion gays are being used by the left as a way of dismantling the church, just from a different angle. Have nothing against them but nothing in common as far as relationships go.
bobgssc wrote:
Okay, first I'm not a Homophobe (which I believe would actually mean I had a fear of them), I am a Christian who actually understands the whole "do not judge others" thing, but I have a question.
Why do gays insist on marriage instead of maybe a "civil union" that would afford them the same rights (healthcare and other insurance, tax advantages, etc)? The way I understand it, "marriage" was a religious practice originally for the followers of God. Most (I know, not all), LGBT's don't believe in the traditional Godhead, so why do they object to anything that isn't a "marriage"?
Again, this is a serious question. I personally don't care, marriage has gone far from a religious ceremony (although, many people do have exactly that when they get married) into basically an agreement to "give it a shot for a year". Any rational explanations out there? Maybe I missed the whole thing and someone before Moses came up with marriages.
Bob
P.S. Civil union was just a name I thought made sense for what most people do today.
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Brian Devon wrote:
Human beings are big on symbols. Gay people want to engage as much in marriage symbols as straight people do.
For both gays and straights, marriage is hardly what it once was. At one time, it was the license to fully express sexuality. Those days are gone. The last Gallup poll in 2013 confirmed that over 70% of Americans are quite o.k. with non-marital sex. The majority of heterosexual Americans are no longer bothered or threatened by gay marriage. Its a new world, a changed world. We all know how well Republicans adapt and embrace new concepts. They don't want to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. They are more comfortable with the 18th.
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So, it sounds like you are saying that people should just accept the bastardization of their religion because people who don't agree with it want some of its symbols? I don't agree with that (which is the purpose of a discussion board for any who have forgotten)
Also, I wonder how many people realize that just 50 years ago, you had to have a really good reason for a divorce or the judge (you actually had to plead a case before one) simply sent you back home with your spouse.
bmac32 wrote:
In my opinion gays are being used by the left as a way of dismantling the church, just from a different angle. Have nothing against them but nothing in common as far as relationships go.
Honestly, that does come to mind when viewing the whole debate from a Christian standpoint. The liberal faction works diligently at dismantling the Christian religion. Funny that all other religions are okay (other than the whole bombing thing). Everyone who bitches about being the object of discrimination, try being a conservative white Christian male in California!
bobgssc wrote:
Honestly, that does come to mind when viewing the whole debate from a Christian standpoint. The liberal faction works diligently at dismantling the Christian religion. Funny that all other religions are okay (other than the whole bombing thing). Everyone who bitches about being the object of discrimination, try being a conservative white Christian male in California!
Apparently Brian has confused a license to screw with the real purpose of marriage, and not just in the Christian faith. It is to provide a stable family environment for raising the next generation. Children emulate their parents. You cannot wish this fact away. Children of gay parents are more likely to, if not actually be gay, experiment with the practice. Some people claim that gays are born that way, some claim it is a lifestyle choice, I maintain that it can be either, or a combination of both. If one or both parents smoke, the children are more likely to smoke. Ditto for drinking and drugs. If we agree that children who are constantly exposed to unhealthy or unlawful behaviors are more likely to emulate them, why does the likliehood cease when we talk about children of gay couples, other than misguided political correctness?
Homos are demon possessed.
banjojack wrote:
Apparently Brian has confused a license to screw with the real purpose of marriage, and not just in the Christian faith. It is to provide a stable family environment for raising the next generation. Children emulate their parents. You cannot wish this fact away. Children of gay parents are more likely to, if not actually be gay, experiment with the practice. Some people claim that gays are born that way, some claim it is a lifestyle choice, I maintain that it can be either, or a combination of both. If one or both parents smoke, the children are more likely to smoke. Ditto for drinking and drugs. If we agree that children who are constantly exposed to unhealthy or unlawful behaviors are more likely to emulate them, why does the likliehood cease when we talk about children of gay couples, other than misguided political correctness?
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This understanding of marriage would discourage or prohibit the marriage of people beyond the age or without the ability to produce children after all according to this archaic philosophy the purpose of marriage is to promote the indrocrination of the pattern of traditional family's in children and serves no other purpose.
The short answer:
It's a bonanza for divorce lawyers.
Most of Congress is made up of lawyers.
Kevyn wrote:
This understanding of marriage would discourage or prohibit the marriage of people beyond the age or without the ability to produce children after all according to this archaic philosophy the purpose of marriage is to promote the indrocrination of the pattern of traditional family's in children and serves no other purpose.
I said that it was the primary, not the sole purpose. What would your definition be? By the way, what is "indocrination?"
Gays would like to get their spouses benefits from retirement to social security that only a legal marriage will solidify at this time. If they don't want them performing marriage then really write laws allowing civil unions the same benefits as a legal heterosexual marriage provides. The problem gays have with that is if it walks , talks, quacks, well..... why settle for seconds "??? I think I know since I've personally wrestled with this issue myself at some point but chose the Bible as my guide in life.
Thats why they want a marriage certificate BENEFITS
Don't read too much into homosexual reasoning. SODOMITES are demon possessed humans. Demons are the devil's foot soldiers. Their sole purpose is to mock God as they are commanded by Satan. Believe it or not, God has feelings and He is saddened when his children stray into the realm of Satan.
REVIEW: SODOMITES are demon possessed.
He asked a serious question and I told him I'm saved as much as the next person and am not demon possessed. I'm as much a part of the family of God as the pastor or leaders of your congregation. I am no longer living a sinful life so if that post was intended my direction you were way of point. God bless
Wolf counselor wrote:
Don't read too much into homosexual reasoning. SODOMITES are demon possessed humans. Demons are the devil's foot soldiers. Their sole purpose is to mock God as they are commanded by Satan. Believe it or not, God has feelings and He is saddened when his children stray into the realm of Satan.
REVIEW: SODOMITES are demon possessed.
cant beleve wrote:
He asked a serious question and I told him I'm saved as much as the next person and am not demon possessed. I'm as much a part of the family of God as the pastor or leaders of your congregation. I am no longer living a sinful life so if that post was intended my direction you were way of point. God bless
The post was not intended in your direction. I simply want to point out that the only reason for the behavior of homosexuals is the fact that they are demon possessed. You overcame the demon and you are now a vessel that a demon would be afraid to occupy. You have overcome Satan. And I am proud to have spoken with you.
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