woodguru

100% credible evidence, transaction documented from start to finish, Trump accepting funds for job done? Is that enough for his base to say it is what it is, or would they be willing to give that a free pass?

Is there a line, some degree of business dealings that would be too much to look the other way on?

Lonewolf

If trump were found to be a KGB agent his base would stick with him.

woodguru

If Obama were involved with what Trump's campaign and transition staff were he'd have been tried for treason. Flynn especially because he was a general and knows exactly what he was doing. It's beyond aiding and abetting.

vernon

You didn't sat anything .Just 100% credible evidence.Is this credible evidence Saying Trump is up for saint hood or a bank robber ?I expect your inferring something bad but I want to see the source and if it from one of Soros I will just trash can it.

vernon

If you found it in media matters or politico or any other soros propaganda I sure would.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You guys having a little circle jerk, are you? Doing a little fantasy maintenance? I suppose it is necessary for leftists to ignore the facts and keep those dreams of Lord Obama alive and breathing, keeps you in your comfort zone, strengthens the walls of your "safe place". It's a shame that liberals are incapable of adapting to reality, unable to accept the truth.

Obama was right in the middle of the attempt to undermine Trump's campaign. But you guys g'head, enjoy those fantastic orgasms.

woodguru

Money laundering cases are built on 100% hard cold paper trail,

1. The original sale can be for a property like the mansion Trump bought for $45 million, if he's working with someone looking to launder a lot of money this person can be actually making the purchase and putting it in Trump's name. That takes a bank facilitating the "loan" even though they might have billions of the oligarch's money on deposit backing the loan to Trump. Upfront it looks like Trump borrowed the money for the mansion.

2. Property sells for twice what it was purchased for, $95 million, so Trump can pay off the loan and pocket a cool $50 million. Unless it isn't actually his property in the first place. So the $95 goes to the bank where there is a $45M loan, it would take bank cooperation to see where the proceeds of Trump's $50M went.

3. Bank cooperates fully, lays out the financial transaction in detail, this points directly to who's account this went into.

Game over, open and shut case with the complete paper trail that took place from start to finish. There are a lot more details that go into establishing the real purchaser that backed the original sale, but the FBI has the ability to come up with the complete trail.

Trump buildings have been financed by Russians as investments in laundering billions of dollars. They make the loan on the building, they purchase condos at prices that are not attached to market, which is one of the money laundering red flags. There is no such thing as the facilitating broker not knowing how the laundry cleanup happens, it's crucial that that person know and understand the process so as to provide the legal cover under scrutiny.

Mueller has handed the criminal cases off to state attorney generals so that there is no pardon power of reliance on congress to take the appropriate actions when they come down.

woodguru

I didn't want a debate on what is credible evidence. I'm talking about a 100% conviction ready case that nails him up cold.

Kevyn

If his operation is shown to have laundered money for the Russians he not only should be impeached he should be criminally charged.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I wonder how much of those foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation were laundered to beef up Hillary's campaign.

Hillary Clinton at times rails against big money's corrupting role in politics. Hacked and leaked emails — along with her donor record — show that this expressed concern is a farce.

In one email chain, top Clinton campaign officials discussed what to do about the platoon of foreign agents and lobbyists acting as campaign bundlers.

Clinton bundlers Jimmy Ryan and Steve Elmendorf lobbied for Colombia; Clinton bundler Tony Podesta, at the firm he cofounded with his brother John Podesta, was a foreign agent for Iraq, Azerbaijan, and Egypt; Clinton bundler Wyeth Weidman was a Libyan agent. Dozens of other Clinton bundlers were foreign agents, not to mention all the regular-old K Street lobbyists hustling cash for Hillary.

Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.

The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that violated its ethics agreement with the Obama administration, foundation officials disclosed Wednesday.

Most of the contributions were possible because of exceptions written into the foundation’s 2008 agreement, which included limits on foreign-government donations.

The agreement, reached before Clinton’s nomination amid concerns that countries could use foundation donations to gain favor with a Clinton-led State Department, allowed governments that had previously donated money to continue making contributions at similar levels.

politediscourse

And no doubt Obama's base would stick with him if the situation were reversed?. Actually I am not that cynical about the American public be they democrat or republican. I voted for Trump but if the evidence were as conclusive as you laid out in your imaginary scenerio I would want him impeached. I voted for Nixon and had he not left office I supported him being impeached. I did not vote for Clinton but did not support him being impeached cause he fibbed about getting a BJ. There but for the grace of god go I........I openly admit I couldn't live with myself if I was that big of a hypocrite. Only talking about me here, no indictment of anyone else meant or intended.

politediscourse

It has been impossible to charge any citizen with Treason since 1945. Treason is narrowly defined in the Constitution and requires a legal declaration of war by the congress before it can be invoked.