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Mar 20, 2018 16:28:04   #
ziggy88 Loc: quincy illinois 62301
 
'Panic Is In the Air' - Obama Deep State Freaks Out After McCabe Firing As The Dominoes Start To Fall
By Susan Duclos - All News PipeLine
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd

The treasonous house of cards is beginning its slow motion fall as heads get ready to roll as 18,000 un-named sealed indictments are ready to be opened – slowly but surely these seditious betrayers of our government will be brought to justice if Russia does not blow us up first. I hope they have plenty of Hillary money to defend themselves.


Just days before he would have been eligible for lifetime pension and lifetime medical benefits for his whole family, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was officially fired. McCabe had stepped down amidst scandal in January 2018, going on "terminal leave," with his official resignation slated to come on March 18, 2018, when he would have been elegible for his full pension package.

According to Attorney General Jeff Sessions' statement on the firing, the action was recommended by FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) after receiving a detailed report of McCabe's misconduct from the Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG), who has been investigating FBI/DOJ actions running up to the 2016 presidential election.
While the upcoming OIG report is expected to be "Pure TNT," according to Former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker, the information that has already been reported from the investigation has implicated a number of senior officials from the FBI and DOJ, including the revelations of tens of thousands of text messages by anti-Trump/pro-Clinton FBI agents Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

Those texts revealed plotting to discredit an incoming president with an "insurance policy," which later came to be the whole Russia investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia; the two were actively leaking information to reporters; Strzok changed the wording of former FBI Director James Comey's exoneration statement for Hillary Clinton in the private server/classified email criminal investigation to language which decriminalized her actions.

More recently it was discovered that Strzok and Page plotted to meet with a FISA judge who presided over Michael Flynn's guilty plea and was later removed from the case.

A number of high ranking officials from multiple agencies have been terminated, reassigned, demoted or resigned due to information uncovered by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, all before his official report has even been released.
OBAMA DEEP STATE FREAKS OUT OVER MCCABE'S FIRING

While the news of McCabe's firing came out late Friday evening, reactions were immediate, starting with a statement by McCabe himself where he attempts to portray this action as one where he is being "singled out," but interestingly enough, as part of his statement he appears to implicate former FBI Directr James Comey, stating that Comey "was aware" of his interactions with a reporter, which the OPR had determined was "unauthorized disclosure to the news media."

McCabe's statement in response to the charges within the Session's statement that he "lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is to claim he "answered questions truthfully and as accurately" as he could "amidst the chaos that surrounded me."

Jonathan Turley, Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, seems to agree with my assessment that McCabe's statement did, in fact, implicate Comey in leaking sensitive information to the press, as he explains at The Hill, it also appears to implicate Comey in "lying to Congress."

If the “interaction” means leaking the information, then McCabe’s statement would seem to directly contradict statements Comey made in a May 2017 congressional hearing. Asked if he had “ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” or whether he had “ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation,” Comey replied “never” and “no.”

Read Turley's entire analysis, as he believes this could also spell trouble for the Mueller investigation as well.

According to former FBI special agent Bobby Charon, who was with the agency for 27 years, "lack of candor," which is the charge made by the OPR against McCabe, after reviewing the documentation provided to him from the OIG's investigation, is the "number one" reason people get fired from the FBI.

Obama's former CIA Director, John Brennan, instantly took to social media to accuse president Trump of being behind McCabe's firing. It should be noted that while Trump has previously been vocal about McCabe being allowed to run out the clock until receiving his full pension benefits, once the OPR recommendation to fire McCabe was presented to Sessions, the White House made it very clear that the president would not weigh in on whether McCabe should be fired or not, leaving the decision to Sessions.

After Sessions issued his statement on McCabe's firing, the president then stated "Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!"

Brennan's statement in response to Trump makes his political leanings quite clear, stating "When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

What Brennan ignores in his panicked temper tantrum is that the OIG investigation into the wrongdoings of senior intelligence agency officials, and any issues that arise from his investigation, began on January 12, 2017, before President Trump was inaugurated, and the recommendation stemming from what the OIG uncovered came from the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility, not the President.

As another social media user pointed out in response to Brennan "Not at all strange when the previous CIA Director...a (supposedly) non partisan, unelected official...makes statements like this. Panic is in the air. #ObamaGate"

Brennan's "panic" stems from the fact that he himself is engulfed in controversy over his own under oath statements to Congress, as was reported in a heavily detailed Real Clear Politics Investigation piece in February, titled "Exclusive: CIA Ex-Director Brennan's Perjury Peril."

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes next plans to investigate the role former CIA Director John Brennan and other Obama intelligence officials played in promoting the salacious and unverified Steele dossier on Donald Trump -- including whether Brennan perjured himself in public testimony about it.

The OIG final report is due to be released within the next few weeks, but the information already public has highlighted a sophisticated attempt, on the part of multiple senior members of a variety of U.S. intelligence agencies to 1) Protect Hillary Clinton before the 2016 presidential election; 2) Instigate the Russia probe as an "insurance policy" in the event that Donald Trump won the election; 3) Leak classified information, much of which was proven false, in order to discredit a sitting president, and; 4) Lie to Congress.

WHY ARE WE TALKING 'PENSIONS' AND NOT PRISON?

The question we see consistently across the internet, in one form or another, is "why are we talking about pensions when we should be talking about prison" terms for lying to FBI, lying to Congress, obstructing justice, leaking classified information to the press, a whole host of other potential criminal actions on the part of "deep state" members of U.S. intelligence agencies?

It is a reasonable question and the answer is as simple as it is frustrating for those that just want to see these deep state actors held accountable.

The short answer is: The OIG report has not been issued.

The OIG investigation has been ongoing since early January 2017, millions of documents have been compiled, along with hundreds of interviews, and while portions have been revealed to agencies in order to remove some of these people from ongoing investigations, or positions where they could still cause harm to America, and those ongoing investigations, the entirety of the OIG findings have not been released to the entities that prosecute crimes.

The fact that the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), upon reviewing evidence compiled by the OIG, took such an extraordinary action in recommending a 21 year career employee like McCabe be terminated, just days before his pension kicked in, indicates that the statement by Sessions saying McCabe "made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is most likely just the tip of a very, very large iceberg.

Other questions noted online include "Why doesn't President Trump just arrest them all now? Answer: The President does not arrest people, nor does he personally investigate or prosecute.

Question: Why doesn't Trump just order Sessions to arrest them all? A question as an answer: Wasn't that the type of politicization of our intelligence agencies Obama perpetrated that we are asking to be cleaned up now? Do we really want President Trump to continue Obama's unethical and possible illegal actions?

Choose, we cannot have it both ways.

BOTTOM LINE

The fact that Brennan came out so quickly to attack President Trump for an action he played no part in, other than tweeting about it here or there, tells us that he understands that many Obama era officials, whether still employed by an intelligence agency or not, is about to get buried under the weight of the documented evidence the OIG has compiled.



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Mar 20, 2018 16:36:24   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
ziggy88 wrote:
'Panic Is In the Air' - Obama Deep State Freaks Out After McCabe Firing As The Dominoes Start To Fall
By Susan Duclos - All News PipeLine
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd

The treasonous house of cards is beginning its slow motion fall as heads get ready to roll as 18,000 un-named sealed indictments are ready to be opened – slowly but surely these seditious betrayers of our government will be brought to justice if Russia does not blow us up first. I hope they have plenty of Hillary money to defend themselves.


Just days before he would have been eligible for lifetime pension and lifetime medical benefits for his whole family, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was officially fired. McCabe had stepped down amidst scandal in January 2018, going on "terminal leave," with his official resignation slated to come on March 18, 2018, when he would have been elegible for his full pension package.

According to Attorney General Jeff Sessions' statement on the firing, the action was recommended by FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) after receiving a detailed report of McCabe's misconduct from the Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG), who has been investigating FBI/DOJ actions running up to the 2016 presidential election.
While the upcoming OIG report is expected to be "Pure TNT," according to Former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker, the information that has already been reported from the investigation has implicated a number of senior officials from the FBI and DOJ, including the revelations of tens of thousands of text messages by anti-Trump/pro-Clinton FBI agents Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

Those texts revealed plotting to discredit an incoming president with an "insurance policy," which later came to be the whole Russia investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia; the two were actively leaking information to reporters; Strzok changed the wording of former FBI Director James Comey's exoneration statement for Hillary Clinton in the private server/classified email criminal investigation to language which decriminalized her actions.

More recently it was discovered that Strzok and Page plotted to meet with a FISA judge who presided over Michael Flynn's guilty plea and was later removed from the case.

A number of high ranking officials from multiple agencies have been terminated, reassigned, demoted or resigned due to information uncovered by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, all before his official report has even been released.
OBAMA DEEP STATE FREAKS OUT OVER MCCABE'S FIRING

While the news of McCabe's firing came out late Friday evening, reactions were immediate, starting with a statement by McCabe himself where he attempts to portray this action as one where he is being "singled out," but interestingly enough, as part of his statement he appears to implicate former FBI Directr James Comey, stating that Comey "was aware" of his interactions with a reporter, which the OPR had determined was "unauthorized disclosure to the news media."

McCabe's statement in response to the charges within the Session's statement that he "lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is to claim he "answered questions truthfully and as accurately" as he could "amidst the chaos that surrounded me."

Jonathan Turley, Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, seems to agree with my assessment that McCabe's statement did, in fact, implicate Comey in leaking sensitive information to the press, as he explains at The Hill, it also appears to implicate Comey in "lying to Congress."

If the “interaction” means leaking the information, then McCabe’s statement would seem to directly contradict statements Comey made in a May 2017 congressional hearing. Asked if he had “ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” or whether he had “ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation,” Comey replied “never” and “no.”

Read Turley's entire analysis, as he believes this could also spell trouble for the Mueller investigation as well.

According to former FBI special agent Bobby Charon, who was with the agency for 27 years, "lack of candor," which is the charge made by the OPR against McCabe, after reviewing the documentation provided to him from the OIG's investigation, is the "number one" reason people get fired from the FBI.

Obama's former CIA Director, John Brennan, instantly took to social media to accuse president Trump of being behind McCabe's firing. It should be noted that while Trump has previously been vocal about McCabe being allowed to run out the clock until receiving his full pension benefits, once the OPR recommendation to fire McCabe was presented to Sessions, the White House made it very clear that the president would not weigh in on whether McCabe should be fired or not, leaving the decision to Sessions.

After Sessions issued his statement on McCabe's firing, the president then stated "Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!"

Brennan's statement in response to Trump makes his political leanings quite clear, stating "When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

What Brennan ignores in his panicked temper tantrum is that the OIG investigation into the wrongdoings of senior intelligence agency officials, and any issues that arise from his investigation, began on January 12, 2017, before President Trump was inaugurated, and the recommendation stemming from what the OIG uncovered came from the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility, not the President.

As another social media user pointed out in response to Brennan "Not at all strange when the previous CIA Director...a (supposedly) non partisan, unelected official...makes statements like this. Panic is in the air. #ObamaGate"

Brennan's "panic" stems from the fact that he himself is engulfed in controversy over his own under oath statements to Congress, as was reported in a heavily detailed Real Clear Politics Investigation piece in February, titled "Exclusive: CIA Ex-Director Brennan's Perjury Peril."

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes next plans to investigate the role former CIA Director John Brennan and other Obama intelligence officials played in promoting the salacious and unverified Steele dossier on Donald Trump -- including whether Brennan perjured himself in public testimony about it.

The OIG final report is due to be released within the next few weeks, but the information already public has highlighted a sophisticated attempt, on the part of multiple senior members of a variety of U.S. intelligence agencies to 1) Protect Hillary Clinton before the 2016 presidential election; 2) Instigate the Russia probe as an "insurance policy" in the event that Donald Trump won the election; 3) Leak classified information, much of which was proven false, in order to discredit a sitting president, and; 4) Lie to Congress.

WHY ARE WE TALKING 'PENSIONS' AND NOT PRISON?

The question we see consistently across the internet, in one form or another, is "why are we talking about pensions when we should be talking about prison" terms for lying to FBI, lying to Congress, obstructing justice, leaking classified information to the press, a whole host of other potential criminal actions on the part of "deep state" members of U.S. intelligence agencies?

It is a reasonable question and the answer is as simple as it is frustrating for those that just want to see these deep state actors held accountable.

The short answer is: The OIG report has not been issued.

The OIG investigation has been ongoing since early January 2017, millions of documents have been compiled, along with hundreds of interviews, and while portions have been revealed to agencies in order to remove some of these people from ongoing investigations, or positions where they could still cause harm to America, and those ongoing investigations, the entirety of the OIG findings have not been released to the entities that prosecute crimes.

The fact that the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), upon reviewing evidence compiled by the OIG, took such an extraordinary action in recommending a 21 year career employee like McCabe be terminated, just days before his pension kicked in, indicates that the statement by Sessions saying McCabe "made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is most likely just the tip of a very, very large iceberg.

Other questions noted online include "Why doesn't President Trump just arrest them all now? Answer: The President does not arrest people, nor does he personally investigate or prosecute.

Question: Why doesn't Trump just order Sessions to arrest them all? A question as an answer: Wasn't that the type of politicization of our intelligence agencies Obama perpetrated that we are asking to be cleaned up now? Do we really want President Trump to continue Obama's unethical and possible illegal actions?

Choose, we cannot have it both ways.

BOTTOM LINE

The fact that Brennan came out so quickly to attack President Trump for an action he played no part in, other than tweeting about it here or there, tells us that he understands that many Obama era officials, whether still employed by an intelligence agency or not, is about to get buried under the weight of the documented evidence the OIG has compiled.
'Panic Is In the Air' - Obama Deep State Freaks Ou... (show quote)

Great post, and great picture.......Maybe Republicans should use this picture in 2018 midterms to show what corrupt bunch of pigs DemocRATS are and off to jail they go....
This is the beginning of the end!!!

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Mar 20, 2018 16:36:38   #
woodguru
 
I'm pretty sure nobody's worried about McCabe.

Word is Trump couldn't possibly be stupid enough to start the shenanigans involved with getting rid of Mueller. But that word gets countered with, Trump is just that stupid.

Dems have already stated that the day Mueller is fired is the day that he can bring his stuff over to the position they will create for him doing their investigation.

I'm pretty sure Trump can't be involved in anything to do with firing Mueller without it triggering obstruction charges on top of the ones already working.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:38:34   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
ziggy88 wrote:
'Panic Is In the Air' - Obama Deep State Freaks Out After McCabe Firing As The Dominoes Start To Fall
By Susan Duclos - All News PipeLine
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd

The treasonous house of cards is beginning its slow motion fall as heads get ready to roll as 18,000 un-named sealed indictments are ready to be opened – slowly but surely these seditious betrayers of our government will be brought to justice if Russia does not blow us up first. I hope they have plenty of Hillary money to defend themselves.


Just days before he would have been eligible for lifetime pension and lifetime medical benefits for his whole family, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was officially fired. McCabe had stepped down amidst scandal in January 2018, going on "terminal leave," with his official resignation slated to come on March 18, 2018, when he would have been elegible for his full pension package.

According to Attorney General Jeff Sessions' statement on the firing, the action was recommended by FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) after receiving a detailed report of McCabe's misconduct from the Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG), who has been investigating FBI/DOJ actions running up to the 2016 presidential election.
While the upcoming OIG report is expected to be "Pure TNT," according to Former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker, the information that has already been reported from the investigation has implicated a number of senior officials from the FBI and DOJ, including the revelations of tens of thousands of text messages by anti-Trump/pro-Clinton FBI agents Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

Those texts revealed plotting to discredit an incoming president with an "insurance policy," which later came to be the whole Russia investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia; the two were actively leaking information to reporters; Strzok changed the wording of former FBI Director James Comey's exoneration statement for Hillary Clinton in the private server/classified email criminal investigation to language which decriminalized her actions.

More recently it was discovered that Strzok and Page plotted to meet with a FISA judge who presided over Michael Flynn's guilty plea and was later removed from the case.

A number of high ranking officials from multiple agencies have been terminated, reassigned, demoted or resigned due to information uncovered by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, all before his official report has even been released.
OBAMA DEEP STATE FREAKS OUT OVER MCCABE'S FIRING

While the news of McCabe's firing came out late Friday evening, reactions were immediate, starting with a statement by McCabe himself where he attempts to portray this action as one where he is being "singled out," but interestingly enough, as part of his statement he appears to implicate former FBI Directr James Comey, stating that Comey "was aware" of his interactions with a reporter, which the OPR had determined was "unauthorized disclosure to the news media."

McCabe's statement in response to the charges within the Session's statement that he "lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is to claim he "answered questions truthfully and as accurately" as he could "amidst the chaos that surrounded me."

Jonathan Turley, Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, seems to agree with my assessment that McCabe's statement did, in fact, implicate Comey in leaking sensitive information to the press, as he explains at The Hill, it also appears to implicate Comey in "lying to Congress."

If the “interaction” means leaking the information, then McCabe’s statement would seem to directly contradict statements Comey made in a May 2017 congressional hearing. Asked if he had “ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” or whether he had “ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation,” Comey replied “never” and “no.”

Read Turley's entire analysis, as he believes this could also spell trouble for the Mueller investigation as well.

According to former FBI special agent Bobby Charon, who was with the agency for 27 years, "lack of candor," which is the charge made by the OPR against McCabe, after reviewing the documentation provided to him from the OIG's investigation, is the "number one" reason people get fired from the FBI.

Obama's former CIA Director, John Brennan, instantly took to social media to accuse president Trump of being behind McCabe's firing. It should be noted that while Trump has previously been vocal about McCabe being allowed to run out the clock until receiving his full pension benefits, once the OPR recommendation to fire McCabe was presented to Sessions, the White House made it very clear that the president would not weigh in on whether McCabe should be fired or not, leaving the decision to Sessions.

After Sessions issued his statement on McCabe's firing, the president then stated "Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!"

Brennan's statement in response to Trump makes his political leanings quite clear, stating "When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

What Brennan ignores in his panicked temper tantrum is that the OIG investigation into the wrongdoings of senior intelligence agency officials, and any issues that arise from his investigation, began on January 12, 2017, before President Trump was inaugurated, and the recommendation stemming from what the OIG uncovered came from the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility, not the President.

As another social media user pointed out in response to Brennan "Not at all strange when the previous CIA Director...a (supposedly) non partisan, unelected official...makes statements like this. Panic is in the air. #ObamaGate"

Brennan's "panic" stems from the fact that he himself is engulfed in controversy over his own under oath statements to Congress, as was reported in a heavily detailed Real Clear Politics Investigation piece in February, titled "Exclusive: CIA Ex-Director Brennan's Perjury Peril."

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes next plans to investigate the role former CIA Director John Brennan and other Obama intelligence officials played in promoting the salacious and unverified Steele dossier on Donald Trump -- including whether Brennan perjured himself in public testimony about it.

The OIG final report is due to be released within the next few weeks, but the information already public has highlighted a sophisticated attempt, on the part of multiple senior members of a variety of U.S. intelligence agencies to 1) Protect Hillary Clinton before the 2016 presidential election; 2) Instigate the Russia probe as an "insurance policy" in the event that Donald Trump won the election; 3) Leak classified information, much of which was proven false, in order to discredit a sitting president, and; 4) Lie to Congress.

WHY ARE WE TALKING 'PENSIONS' AND NOT PRISON?

The question we see consistently across the internet, in one form or another, is "why are we talking about pensions when we should be talking about prison" terms for lying to FBI, lying to Congress, obstructing justice, leaking classified information to the press, a whole host of other potential criminal actions on the part of "deep state" members of U.S. intelligence agencies?

It is a reasonable question and the answer is as simple as it is frustrating for those that just want to see these deep state actors held accountable.

The short answer is: The OIG report has not been issued.

The OIG investigation has been ongoing since early January 2017, millions of documents have been compiled, along with hundreds of interviews, and while portions have been revealed to agencies in order to remove some of these people from ongoing investigations, or positions where they could still cause harm to America, and those ongoing investigations, the entirety of the OIG findings have not been released to the entities that prosecute crimes.

The fact that the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), upon reviewing evidence compiled by the OIG, took such an extraordinary action in recommending a 21 year career employee like McCabe be terminated, just days before his pension kicked in, indicates that the statement by Sessions saying McCabe "made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor – including under oath – on multiple occasions," is most likely just the tip of a very, very large iceberg.

Other questions noted online include "Why doesn't President Trump just arrest them all now? Answer: The President does not arrest people, nor does he personally investigate or prosecute.

Question: Why doesn't Trump just order Sessions to arrest them all? A question as an answer: Wasn't that the type of politicization of our intelligence agencies Obama perpetrated that we are asking to be cleaned up now? Do we really want President Trump to continue Obama's unethical and possible illegal actions?

Choose, we cannot have it both ways.

BOTTOM LINE

The fact that Brennan came out so quickly to attack President Trump for an action he played no part in, other than tweeting about it here or there, tells us that he understands that many Obama era officials, whether still employed by an intelligence agency or not, is about to get buried under the weight of the documented evidence the OIG has compiled.
'Panic Is In the Air' - Obama Deep State Freaks Ou... (show quote)


Tip of the iceberg! Drain that swamp!

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Mar 20, 2018 16:51:51   #
woodguru
 
The only people freaking are repubs because it's pretty obvious despite the rhetoric that Mueller is closing in on Trump.

I've been asking people I know to be honest, do they really think Trump has nothing to worry about in terms of money laundering or tax fraud? They all admit that Trump is obviously no choirboy, but always add that Hillary was worse. What I want to know is what does Hillary have to do with Trump, and if Hillary is a criminal and got away with whatever it is she got away with (haven't found anyone who can clearly say what that is), what does Hillary have to do with whether or not he is guilty of anything like money laundering, or obstruction that he has openly admitted?

Another persons crimes no matter what they are has absolutely nothing to do with letting another person off the hook for their crimes.

Can anyone admit Trump is more than likely guilty of money laundering? How about firing Comey to make the Russia thing go away, he admitted that in two different venues.

Obstruction is a big deal, the law prohibits even trying to influence investigations. Trump has violated the line there dozens of times, including having Nunes bring his staff information on the investigation, that is a huge deal leaking the information that's given to the intelligence committee that is supposed to be kept secret from those being investigated.

Crimes are crimes, violating the law is what it is, and the idea of protecting Trump against his own stupidity is getting pretty weird. The GOP is quickly crossing over the line well into helping him obstruct justice, they are refusing to follow sensible leads.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:55:52   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
The only people freaking are repubs because it's pretty obvious despite the rhetoric that Mueller is closing in on Trump.

I've been asking people I know to be honest, do they really think Trump has nothing to worry about in terms of money laundering or tax fraud? They all admit that Trump is obviously no choirboy, but always add that Hillary was worse. What I want to know is what does Hillary have to do with Trump, and if Hillary is a criminal and got away with whatever it is she got away with (haven't found anyone who can clearly say what that is), what does Hillary have to do with whether or not he is guilty of anything like money laundering, or obstruction that he has openly admitted?

Another persons crimes no matter what they are has absolutely nothing to do with letting another person off the hook for their crimes.

Can anyone admit Trump is more than likely guilty of money laundering? How about firing Comey to make the Russia thing go away, he admitted that in two different venues.

Obstruction is a big deal, the law prohibits even trying to influence investigations. Trump has violated the line there dozens of times, including having Nunes bring his staff information on the investigation, that is a huge deal leaking the information that's given to the intelligence committee that is supposed to be kept secret from those being investigated.

Crimes are crimes, violating the law is what it is, and the idea of protecting Trump against his own stupidity is getting pretty weird. The GOP is quickly crossing over the line well into helping him obstruct justice, they are refusing to follow sensible leads.
The only people freaking are repubs because it's p... (show quote)


Who is obstructing anything????Where is your proff???

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Mar 20, 2018 17:00:59   #
woodguru
 
Noraa wrote:
Tip of the iceberg! Drain that swamp!


Interesting point of view thinking that dems are panicking...

Trump is toast, how many of Trump's swamp critters have already plead guilty? What do you think, Trump is going to pardon them all? That would be criminal obstruction considering they are testifying against him for deals.

The funny thing is, Mueller is keeping up a fast paced stream of indictments and plea deals. They all send a message of the exact damage that is coming. He let Trump know what he's going to be asking, not what he wants to know, what he is going to ask. The part anyone that knows about how federal prosecutors work is that Mueller is going to ask only the things he already has 100% proof of, it's a reality or honesty check. It's like toying with a retarded mouse to let Trump know what he knows, and that he wants to hear these things from Trump's own mouth.

We're about to see Trump get more and more irrational, he's his own worst enemy.

In the words of Gowdy, if you are innocent let the investigation continue to a conclusion that clears you, you are acting guilty as hell.

Dems panicked, I think not

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Mar 20, 2018 17:19:11   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
Who is obstructing anything????Where is your proff???


I guess since you don't have any real news sources I'll share what you should know.

After firing Comey Trump told the Russian ambassador that he had made the Russia investigation go away (live on film).

In another interview he had said that his interest was putting a stop to the Russia thing because that's what muricans wanted (again live on air).

Hmmm, can't or haven't seen these on FOX, that's weird...

Trump is his own worst enemy, he has a clown show lying and running interference for him and every time he turns around he is undermining someone who is trying to do damage control. This started with the biggest crowds ever in history that anyone could see weren't.

The problem with telling it like it is (firing comey to end the Russia thing) is that it's on the record and no amount of retroactive damage control can put those genies back in the bottle. Mueller has an array of things on the record that put an obstruction case together. Every tweet that provides a view into Trump's state of mind, what he's thinking about that happens later. Firing Comey to end the Russia thing was obstruction, not that the GOP would ever do the right thing and impeach him for that, it will take way more that they can't refuse to act on. I think Mueller will go for an indictment.

The thing that worries me is that he has the best intelligence services in the world at his disposal, they are hooked into allied intelligence, or at least they were before Trump started leaking their sensitive information directly to Russia. But what's scary is that he is not using them, he isn't even allowing them to define the degree of hacking that happened and create the safeties needed to keep it from happening again.

Trump's brilliant instincts are not close to being what needs to be acted upon that NSA and Homeland security intelligence knows. The man is wreaking havoc with the security of the nation by not aggressively responding to Russian interference. Russia has been the enemy of this country as long as any of us can remember, and the idea of our president being Pooties friend is. Putin, what he is, where he came from, what he has accomplished, this is one brilliant and scary dude, Trump is not in the same league.

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Mar 21, 2018 18:28:06   #
Mikeyavelli
 
woodguru wrote:
Interesting point of view thinking that dems are panicking...

Trump is toast, how many of Trump's swamp critters have already plead guilty? What do you think, Trump is going to pardon them all? That would be criminal obstruction considering they are testifying against him for deals.

The funny thing is, Mueller is keeping up a fast paced stream of indictments and plea deals. They all send a message of the exact damage that is coming. He let Trump know what he's going to be asking, not what he wants to know, what he is going to ask. The part anyone that knows about how federal prosecutors work is that Mueller is going to ask only the things he already has 100% proof of, it's a reality or honesty check. It's like toying with a retarded mouse to let Trump know what he knows, and that he wants to hear these things from Trump's own mouth.

We're about to see Trump get more and more irrational, he's his own worst enemy.

In the words of Gowdy, if you are innocent let the investigation continue to a conclusion that clears you, you are acting guilty as hell.

Dems panicked, I think not
Interesting point of view thinking that dems are p... (show quote)


Process Crimes, that's all Mueller can do.
"You said that you arrived at noon, but our surveillance cameras have you arriving at 12:15. You lied to the Great Mueller!"

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Mar 22, 2018 01:19:00   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
This post is old news. Serious changes have since occurred. Conservatives need to take a page from history, recall impeaching Bill cost seats in both houses and Gingrich his immediate future.
We cannot sit on our duffs wallowing in self-righteousness while the socialist freak out. Lying-thieving race-baiting cowards that they are, they're a bunch well-honed foes too.

I don't look for anything of real substance to happen until Trump's re-election. After that party winds down I wouldn't be surprised if some of the deep state boys & girls didn't drink the cool-aid.

And for the historical record; Russia was a trading ally when they sold us Alaska and a brother in arms in defeating Germany. Thanks for listening.

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