Wm. E. Smith

I dont know why i waste my time, but here is a parting shot at you since you are still wanting to split hairs on facts.
Why dont you tell me why, after a partner of the rose law firm who worked with crooked hilly was killed in the parking lot in the middle of the day after he agreed to testify about hilly running het shredding machines and paying her secretary over time to do it ?
We can banter all day long, but if you are not willing to concede that the clintons are a lousey cheating lot of fodder then we will be doing just what your heros are doing now, wasteing tax payer dollars and time argueing over an issue that is only meant to do one thing, waste time and put off the inevetable, there was no collusion with President Trump and russia, mueller has proved collusion with the dnc and hilly with russia, and the truth about hilly taking money from the DOJ / state department which will come out when the left stops tying up funds and time on a non issue and goes after the real crooks, the hussein administration !

CDM Loc: Florida

Jack; Spot on! I suggest the Leftist proletariat take a look at the world history of revolution and resistance and see what their Leftist leadership sees. Certainly the ranking Leftists not only here but everywhere on this globe understand the formidable force we, the armed and very patriotic citizens of America represent. The Russians know it and the Chinese know it ... And this is the ONLY reason the Democrat Party has persisted in attempting to disarm us. They could give a shit about dead kids or dead anyone else. So long as the 1st and 2nd amendments survive they can't control us. THAT was the intent of the founders, end of argument.

For the Leftists who continue with the "what are you gonna do against the U.S. military with your pop guns" I would first say, what makes you all so cock sure the American military will turn weapons on it's own people? After that I would site the most glaring example of determined resistance in modern times - Afghanistan ... where a bunch of people in sandals, living in caves, armed with whatever hand-me-down weaponry they could muster, have not been defeated by the two greatest military forces on earth, Russia and the U.S. So never mind 1 or 2 or 3 hundred million guns ... do these morons really believe that say, 20 million Americans with billions of rounds of ammunition could not create royal havoc?

So far no Leftist here as stepped up to the core question of your thread. They are all over the place with everything from what a comma means to what we don't understand about the 2nd amendment to as far in left field, off topic as one can get. They can rationalize all they like; the fact remains there are 300 million guns here, protected by the 2nd amendment and that Genie will not go back in the bottle regardless what these America hating bastards think they are doing.

Keep on keep'n on ...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Consider, everything you say is false..

Give me a link to any of the accusations you list and I will give you the actual facts to the rumor..

the noose is getting tighter and tighter each day on trump.. that is why he tosses stories out like the tariff which will only last until after the Pennsylvania election..

Wm. E. Smith

I wish i could have said that ! Perfect.
I agree completely, its too bad some folks think that if law abiding citizens give up their guns, crime will go away.
Criminals will never give up theirs.
Dont the left libs get it yet ?
Or maybe they just want another form of government, sociailism or communism ?

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

You know God damn well that a semi automatic ak-47 is not a machine gun, now you're blowing smoke and you know it

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

I had no idea a machine gun existed of that type design. I'm sure our founding fathers knew about it.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

I have gone a few rounds with Morgan and can say she is not a leftist or even a typical liberal. Yes liberal but actually has critical thinking skills that are not lock step with the party. Give her a break, give the facts and expect a good honest debate. Once I figured she is actually honest, I had to suck it up and apologized. Slatten49 is another honest liberal, not in lock step and thinks for him/herself.

Good luck

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

DID I post something that said an AK-47 was a machine gun??? If so I overlooked it.. My mistake.. of course it is not a machine gun..


Wow, on a look back, I see it was the wonderful Ronnie Raygun who made that remark..

His mistake..

tom25411 Loc: WV

Because I have a right to keep a gun am a free citizen. Forbidden to have a gun I am a subject of the government or the Kings will.
The big problem I have with the gun control crowd, beside demonstrated stupidity is they actually believe that if we had strict gun control that everyone would turn in their guns and anyone would be able to walk down a dark alley in Baltimore without getting shot. ....... Hmmm, some Libs will believe anything. When guns are outlawed only the outlaws will have them.

politediscourse

Its not liberals that wish to ban all guns it is progressives. Our founding fathers were liberals and they penned the second amendment!

And when it was created the second amendment wasn't an individual right. The Bill of Rights only protected the rights it enumerated from federal infringement, allowing states and local governments to abridge them. The Supreme Court upheld this in 1833. After the civil war it became apparent that the states were just a likely to abuse these rights as were the feds (would there have even been civil war if 4 million blacks had the right to to keep and bear arms!?!) The fourteenth amendment was in part constructed to remedy this providing a method whereby these rights could be incorporated into individual rights forever barring both the state and federal government from infringing upon them. The process of incorporation of individual rights did not start in earnest until the 1920’s but then progressed rapidly. By 1970 all but 6 of the 29 rights outlined in the bill of rights had been incorporated as individual rights. In 2010 the Supreme Court in deciding McDonald v. City of Chicago fully incorporated the second amendment as an individual right. Once incorporated the Supreme Court is not empowered to change or remove an individual right as they are sworn to protect and uphold the constitution. This is a power left only to the people as outlined in article v of the constitution. If the Supreme Court or the lower courts were to ever try, it would be tantamount to treason.

The court has said this does not prevent regulation, so it could be possible to prohibit AK47's. But those seeking to ban all semi automatic rifles and shot guns by using the AK47 as a trojan horse would ultimately lose. The Court would see such an all encompassing action as firearms ban which is in direct conflict with the second amendment. Such a comprehensive ban would require creating a new amendment which overturned the second amendment.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

In the late 1700"s and 1800's liberals then would be considered moderate conservatives today.
The Democrat party in just the last decade has morphed into a majority leftist liberal. Progressive is just a pretty word with a cherry on top to disguise Pure Socialistic Marxist Communist belief system. Most liberals 15 tears ago would never join a pure socialist party or Marxist, or communism, but change the name, refraze wording in the democrats beliefs and ideology so the followers (useful idiots) continue voting for their evil agenda and most are very unawares of the truth behind the democrats agenda. They mostly are lock step with the party, the leftist media conditions their mental beliefs with lies, fabricated news stories, all while hiding the truth. Liberals have had years of conditioning only having talking points, but convinced by the media that they are the party elite, protecting and helping citizens and the conservative party is evil, Christian terrorists, racist, greedy, out for the rich, hate poor people, war mongers ect. Because of a very effective brainwashing media.
Draining the swamp congress, FBI, DOJ is only a small part. The deep state and media feeds everything.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

This is a "machine gun" frosty:

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

It'll take the gun haters awhile to come up with a response to your pic. They're like deer in the headlights right now, don't know if they should shit or run😨😨😨

Wm. E. Smith

Excellent ! Great writing tom25411

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

That is a very interesting contraption... For get the name of the maker.. But several similar versions were also made about the same time..

Nearly all required a p reloaded mechanism.. that would be placed onto the gun assembly and fired by rotating the mechanisms and firing as a rifle of the time..

Needed at least two men, one shooter and one, or more, loaders.. managed about 20 shots per minute in tests but in use was more often 6 per minute..

Not until the gattling gun was a practical rapid fire gun successful..

the method used in the gun shown was tried many times and a variety of guns were put together around the world..

I looked for a book showing them all but no luck so still would like to see them all..