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Mar 5, 2018 16:19:59   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Obamacare took $800 billion from Medicare. It seems, the liberals think that it makes sense to take healthcare dollars from the sickest Americans(Medicare is health care for our seniors and disabled )to start America on the road to Communism, as yall seem to prefer to call it, Socialism. Not only was Obamacare destined to break our economy, the death panel, excuse me, IPAB, was so horrific, O had to lie about their being any death panel,why not, he lied about every thing else. ut lying seems to be what politicans do best(both Democrats and Republicans)
Obamacare took $800 billion from Medicare. It see... (show quote)


That is a big LIE! Do some research and stop believing everything the repubs lie about.

What the ACA Really Does for Medicare

The Affordable Care Act achieves savings in the Medicare program through a series of payment reforms, service delivery innovations, and increased efforts to reduce fraud, waste, and abuse. The actual projected reduction in Medicare spending is largely a result of reducing overpayments to private Medicare plans that have been paid more than traditional Medicare but do not perform any better. In fact, according the GAO, saving on wasteful overpayments now means there will more future funds for legitimate coverage.[1]

http://www.medicareadvocacy.org/the-700-billion-medicare-myth/

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Mar 5, 2018 16:21:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Obamacare took $800 billion from Medicare. It seems, the liberals think that it makes sense to take healthcare dollars from the sickest Americans(Medicare is health care for our seniors and disabled )to start America on the road to Communism, as yall seem to prefer to call it, Socialism. Not only was Obamacare destined to break our economy, the death panel, excuse me, IPAB, was so horrific, O had to lie about their being any death panel,why not, he lied about every thing else. ut lying seems to be what politicans do best(both Democrats and Republicans)
Obamacare took $800 billion from Medicare. It see... (show quote)




Maureen,\\\

You only missed a few things..

The amount of money, the source of the money, the payback of the money, the purpose of the money, the assistance of death panels., (that was in trump don`t care which did not pass),

Nothing at all to do with communism. and only one type of Socialism



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Mar 5, 2018 17:26:42   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
SS benefits are 'untouchable'...it's the FUNDS Congress has got its fingers in. (I'm guessing you knew that)
The sure way to cease the abuses is...wait for it...privatization.

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Mar 5, 2018 17:53:43   #
TimShawen
 
I would agree with you if you could show that these billionaires are collecting Social Security? However, based on SS's own criteria they cannot collect benefits.

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Mar 5, 2018 18:06:40   #
TimShawen
 
debeda wrote:
Well and let's not forget that teachers, police, firemen, railroad workers, and government workers contribute NOTHING. All of their money goes into a fund only for them and is not stolen to fund welfare.


I beg to differ with you I was a government employee for 37 years and I not only paid the maximum into Social Security. And, one other fact you are unaware of is that retired government employees only receive around 25% of what you are or would get upon retirement. Because you were unaware of this fact I have my doubts pertaining to the others who you say do not pay into SS.

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Mar 5, 2018 18:07:37   #
maureenthannon
 
perma, The reason that Democrats don't get convicted of their crimes is that the politicians don't do the dirty work themselves, they use their "Useful Idiots", they have folks much lower than them to kill, lie,and steal,etc. Only U.S. Presidents have ever been impeached, both were Democrats to be impeached, Bill Clinton and Andrew Jackson.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:53:40   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
king hall wrote:
SS benefits are 'untouchable'...it's the FUNDS Congress has got its fingers in. (I'm guessing you knew that)
The sure way to cease the abuses is...wait for it...privatization.


Privatization would be worse. Wall Street bankers would reap a windfall of commissions and fees if Social Security was replaced by risky private accounts, and private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations would make billions more if Medicare was privatized. Look at what privatization did to Chile's retirement system.

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Mar 5, 2018 20:10:11   #
maryjane
 
I am a retired teacher in Georgia. Every month, AS and Medicare were deducted from my check. I also chose to participate in the Teachers Retirement System. When I began my retirement, I discovered that Social Security penalized me for having another retirement plan, so, though I paid into SS for over 35 years, I only get less than $400 monthly and Medicare is deducted from that. This never has seemed right to me, but, you'd better believe I am so glad that I did participate in the Teachers Retirement System. It has been a life saver for me.

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Mar 5, 2018 20:27:34   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Fine patriotic Americans


Both of them are contradictions to me. They made their bucks in a capitalist manner and then they attack their fellow capitalists.

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Mar 5, 2018 20:38:21   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
Both of them are contradictions to me. They made their bucks in a capitalist manner and then they attack their fellow capitalists.


How?

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Mar 5, 2018 22:15:39   #
TimShawen
 
I do actually. How do you think they got the money to rebuild Europe after the world wars and Vietnam.

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Mar 5, 2018 22:21:28   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
debeda wrote:
Absolutely!!! It's like the pols saw a chunk of money and couldn't wait to spend it....


Exactly!

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Mar 6, 2018 08:59:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maureenthannon wrote:
perma, The reason that Democrats don't get convicted of their crimes is that the politicians don't do the dirty work themselves, they use their "Useful Idiots", they have folks much lower than them to kill, lie,and steal,etc. Only U.S. Presidents have ever been impeached, both were Democrats to be impeached, Bill Clinton and Andrew Jackson.



maureen,

Do you think the republicans do the dirty work with their own hands?? All of them use the underlings for the actual work.. Nixon did not burglerize watergate.. His helpers did that. the actual doing of the deed..

Did not realized Andy Jackson was a Democrat.. Never thought about it..

It took 7 years to nail Bill Clinton for getting a blow job in the white house..

What do you think will be found out about trump if they go on for 7 years???

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Mar 6, 2018 09:09:20   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
maureen,

Do you think the republicans do the dirty work with their own hands?? All of them use the underlings for the actual work.. Nixon did not burglerize watergate.. His helpers did that. the actual doing of the deed..

Did not realized Andy Jackson was a Democrat.. Never thought about it..

It took 7 years to nail Bill Clinton for getting a blow job in the white house..

What do you think will be found out about trump if they go on for 7 years???


A better question is--What do you think "they" will do about it. The ones doing the accusing and investigations are just as guilty of some immoral or illegal infarction themselves, especially when it comes to phony partisan politics.

Kinky Friedman coined the phrase, "the definition of politics--poly meaning many and tics meaning bloodsuckers." That is what ALL politicians are.

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Mar 6, 2018 09:20:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
buffalo wrote:
A better question is--What do you think "they" will do about it. The ones doing the accusing and investigations are just as guilty of some immoral or illegal infarction themselves, especially when it comes to phony partisan politics.

Kinky Friedman coined the phrase, "the definition of politics--poly meaning many and tics meaning bloodsuckers." That is what ALL politicians are.




It is truly a big job to find one who seems honest..

Like that last line.... a keeper....

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