Here's an example or two how we NRA conservatives look really, really stupid. I'm serious: Folks all over the country -all over the planet- are wondering today about who or what is...

S. Maturin

Folks all over the country -all over the planet- are wondering today about who or what is guiding the NRA and it's public relations activities.
Why should they wonder, you wonder? Well, try this one: Everyone knows that there is no way in hell any reasoning, any rational thoughts, any real problem solving can be injected into the minds of the rabid far-left, radical left membership. Those minds are calcified, cemented, and cannot be changed. Period. You know that, I know that, all those emotional, hysterical fools of the radocal far-left media know that, and yet the NRA makes a spectacle of itself and conservatives make spectacles of themselves by confronting mobs of those savages as was done on that sham of a town hall CNN flashed before the world.

Folks, if the general public is to be reached and told the real story as to why the Second Amendment is so precious, that cannot be accomplished in a arena where the First Amendment is being trashed.

Case in point: http://freebeacon.com/issues/dana-loesch-is-right-cnn-host-stood-by-as-nra-called-child-murderers/?utm_source=Freedom+Mail&utm_campaign=aea5fefa15-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_02_23&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-aea5fefa15-45996637

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

S. Maturin wrote:

Folks all over the country -all over the planet- a... (show quote)

Then there is this.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

PaulPisces wrote:

Then there is this.

Verse I can't give but example I can.

Abraham rescues his nephew.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+14&version=NIV

I also cannot find a place where God forbids from defending ourselves.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

BigMike wrote:

Verse I can't give but example I can.

Abraham rescues his nephew.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+14&version=NIV

I also cannot find a place where God forbids from defending ourselves.

Mike - Your post led me to do some research and found that the LaPierre quote going around is a partial one. He seems to have said this:

"There is no greater personal individual freedom than the right to keep and bear arms, the right to protect yourself, and the right to survive," stated LaPierre. "It's not bestowed by man, but granted by God to all Americans as our American birthright."

So it's entirely possible he meant God was granting us only the right to protect ourselves and survive. I don't think anyone who believes in any concept of god would argue against that. In any case the inference that it is specific to Americans is manipulative at best.

But he did lump the right to keep and bear arms in his sentence. The idea that God has granted us the specific right to keep and bear the arms to which the NRA is referring is ludicrous on any level. Only an idiot would believe that. LaPierre is not a stupid man, so I cannot help but believe he made that statement the way he did on purpose.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

PaulPisces wrote:

Mike - Your post led me to do some research and fo... (show quote)

Everybody says things the way they do on purpose. Ah well...c'est la vie!

Scientists make inferences too y'know.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

PaulPisces wrote:

Then there is this.

Where does he say anything about a Bible? You need it from the Bible? Why? What about the bible makes it the ultimate arbiter of natural rights?

S. Maturin

PaulPisces wrote:

Then there is this.

Sure.

Meanwhile show me where gun ownership is denied the citizen either in the Bible or the US Constitution.

Show me.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

S. Maturin wrote:

Sure.

Meanwhile show me where gun ownership is denied the citizen either in the Bible or the US Constitution.

Show me.

I am gradually coming to the conclusion that all this talk of gun 'control' and 'bans' is all designed to detract from the issues that should be in front of us all at this moment. Every time something like this happens, we see the same tired people dragging their same old tired, sad, worn out arguments over the almost completely dead (not a pun) fire one more time. When did anyone stop to ask why, after all these tragic events, the narrative has not moved on to something more productive? Just keep saying the same things over and over again, back and forth, charge and rebuttal, accusation and outrage. On and on and on.

I'm reminded of the old couple who spend their days arguing with each other incessantly day after day. They've been doing it so long that neither of them knows what the argument is about any more or even how it started.

"Idiot!"
"Fool!"
"Moron!"
"Dingbat!"

Why? They don't know. One thing they do know, neither of them is going to give an inch and let the other one 'score'.

Children, please.

S. Maturin

Larry the Legend wrote:

I am gradually coming to the conclusion that all t... (show quote)

That's pretty much what I meant when I posted: " Those minds are calcified, cemented, and cannot be changed. Period. ", above. My experience is that conservative types tend to listen and then discuss/argue. Liberal dempocrat/progressives on the other hand go immediately to screaming and tantrums. My experience.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

S. Maturin wrote:

Sure.

Meanwhile show me where gun ownership is denied the citizen either in the Bible or the US Constitution.

Show me.

What a silly, irrelevant reply!

Neither The US Constitution nor The Bible specifically deny marriage to same-sex couples, yet that does not seem to stand in the way of conservatives pulling both into the discussion about its validity.

You can do better, I feel sure.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

PaulPisces wrote:

What a silly, irrelevant reply!

Neither The US Constitution nor The Bible specifically deny marriage to same-sex couples, yet that does not seem to stand in the way of conservatives pulling both into the discussion about its validity.

You can do better, I feel sure.

I did OK. God allows us to defend ourselves and the Constitution recognizes that and links our right to bear arms to God. No mystery there.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

BigMike wrote:

I did OK. God allows us to defend ourselves and the Constitution recognizes that and links our right to bear arms to God. No mystery there.

C'mon Mike. That's a pretty big stretch.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

PaulPisces wrote:

C'mon Mike. That's a pretty big stretch.

What? That our right to defend ourselves is God-given? That's not even a 'reach'. The Good Lord gave us opposable thumbs for good reasons, and it ain't all about being able to hold a fork.

Ricktloml

Larry the Legend wrote:

Where does he say anything about a Bible? You need it from the Bible? Why? What about the bible makes it the ultimate arbiter of natural rights?

It seems LaPierre was simply referencing the fact that here in the U.S. our rights and liberties come from God, not government. Twisting his words to make them more or less than they are is typical of leftists. They don't like the 2nd Amendment, so anyone who advocates for it can't be just wrong, they have to be stupid, evil, worthy of hate and they need to be demonized

S. Maturin

PaulPisces wrote:

What a silly, irrelevant reply!

Neither The US Constitution nor The Bible specifically deny marriage to same-sex couples, yet that does not seem to stand in the way of conservatives pulling both into the discussion about its validity.

You can do better, I feel sure.

"silly, irrelevant" -- =-- "I have no answer, BWAAAAA! <SNIFF!>

Your request was incredible immature and ridiculous. I responded in kind.