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Feb 24, 2018 14:49:46   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
DJRich wrote:
I am asking all of you trumpers, gun nuts and conservative "experts" what YOU would have done to prevent the shooting.

And what rights would you take aways from a guy like cruz?

Remember, cruz could be a right wing gun nut, just like you


Psyche ward. Period. Easy. FB is like an open window the cops can see through when they come knocking. Admissible in court.

That's the place to start

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Feb 24, 2018 14:50:59   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
Simple, I'd show that all you conservatives and gun nuts are quick to blame the FBI and local law enforcement, and then you prove that you have no clue what should have been done, months and weeks before the shooting occurred.

Except how cruz should have his rights infringed because he had mental issues and guns.

Oh yeah, I already did that and the proof of total and complete ignorance is in the typical trump supporter response







BigMike wrote:
10 questions in one little post. How complicated things must seem to you.

What would you do?

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Feb 24, 2018 14:56:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
DJRich wrote:
Simple, I'd show that all you conservatives and gun nuts are quick to blame the FBI and local law enforcement, and then you prove that you have no clue what should have been done, months and weeks before the shooting occurred.

Except how cruz should have his rights infringed because he had mental issues and guns.

Oh yeah, I already did that and the proof of total and complete ignorance is in the typical trump supporter response


I've already said schools should have been hardened after they became targets in the 70s and that is the quickest and best way to protect kids. That puts the blame on politics not the cops.

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Feb 24, 2018 14:59:05   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
Guess trump and the rest of the cons didn't take your advice did they?






BigMike wrote:
I've already said schools should have been hardened after they became targets in the 70s and that is the quickest and best way to protect kids. That puts the blame on politics not the cops.

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Feb 24, 2018 15:13:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
DJRich wrote:
Guess trump and the rest of the cons didn't your advice did they?


Trump will see schools hardened and soon o' ye of no faith. The rest of the "cons" will go along with him. All this other stuff is peripheral but there is a sense in putting the word out that people in schools might be armed whether you actually do it right away or not.

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Feb 24, 2018 15:15:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DJRich wrote:
You do realize that cruz would have had to go to court and have a judge issue the order for such a device.


I do.

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Feb 24, 2018 16:43:34   #
son of witless
 
DJRich wrote:
As your article states, the host family was "threatened" months before the Parkland shooting

The question is what should/could law enforcement done to stop the shooting?


Geeze olwillockers, what oh what could the poor Police have done ????????? I just don't know, but I betcha somebody has figured it out. Somewhere, somebody has figured out what to do about a brain fried idiot who thinks it would be really really cool to sneak some guns into a school and kill as many kids as they can before the real cops show up and shoot them. Now I know I read somewhere that the cops have figured it out. Where was that ? Oh year, now I remember it was the State of Maryland. Maryland, who knew ? Maybe because it was two brain fried idiots instead of one that allowed the Cops to actually prevent a school shooting.

http://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/two-maryland-students-arrested-for-making-threats-guns-found-in-home/65-521585249

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Feb 25, 2018 08:26:37   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
DJRich wrote:
Since the shooting in Parkland, the media, especially trump and the fools at fox, have been attacking the FBI for not stopping the the cruz shooting, which occurred weeks after the latest phone tip the FBI got.

So here is the question, what would trump and his rightwing cronies want the FBI to do with cruz?

Investigate him?
Arrest him?
Confiscate his guns?
Put him in the psyche ward?
Keep him under 24/7 surveillance? And for how long?
Put him on medication?
Take him off mediation?

All of you experts are certain to have the solutions to what should have been done.

But remember, until cruz committed his murders, he had rights, to his guns, and his privacy.

So explain how trump can so casually dismiss those rights.
Since the shooting in Parkland, the media, especia... (show quote)


Trump can't. The FBI can't. The County Sheriff can't. The courts can't. The governor can't. Because he has rights. The only people who could have prevented what happened are the people around him:

His parents
His siblings
His friends
His teachers
His doctor

None of them are legally bound to operate judiciously. They are all morally bound to do the right thing. They all failed him because they relied on a system that is not equipped to deal with a 'maybe'. Only when the 'maybe' becomes a reality is the system equipped to deal with him. By then, it's too late. The crime has been committed and the issue is immediately, and I mean immediately twisted to be about 'the guns'. it's astounding how quickly they can swoop in on a crime scene such as this and hijack the entire process from the very beginning. It's almost as if they were 'expecting something'.

'Expecting something'? Nah.....

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Feb 25, 2018 10:11:49   #
dune
 
LOSES RIGHTS WHEN HE MAKE THREATS.

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Feb 25, 2018 10:27:18   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DJRich wrote:
Since the shooting in Parkland, the media, especially trump and the fools at fox, have been attacking the FBI for not stopping the the cruz shooting, which occurred weeks after the latest phone tip the FBI got.

So here is the question, what would trump and his rightwing cronies want the FBI to do with cruz?

Investigate him?
Arrest him?
Confiscate his guns?
Put him in the psyche ward?
Keep him under 24/7 surveillance? And for how long?
Put him on medication?
Take him off mediation?

All of you experts are certain to have the solutions to what should have been done.

But remember, until cruz committed his murders, he had rights, to his guns, and his privacy.

So explain how trump can so casually dismiss those rights.
Since the shooting in Parkland, the media, especia... (show quote)


Trump didnt casually dismiss anything~
He has asked Sessions and Congress to consider stricter back ground checks and banning the bumb stock guns..

When a wacko goes off committing something as Horrific as cruz did, no one knows when or if..

The solutions you listed could have very well been the course taken..However in doing nothing about it we don’t know what “ could have been the solution??? They should have followed protocal and done something!! That entire field office should be fired, that much I do know....

The FBI admitted to not following protocal and investigated this guy.. May have done nothing if you recall the shooter in Orlando..Hell they investigated and cleared him three times.. How about the Boston bombs of the two guys that did it.. Even when told by Russia they cleared them !!!?? WTH!!! Looks like the FBI needs new people, new blood and some serious over hauling of their supposed protocal, whatever that is...

What would you do to fix the problem???

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Feb 25, 2018 10:29:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Trump can't. The FBI can't. The County Sheriff can't. The courts can't. The governor can't. Because he has rights. The only people who could have prevented what happened are the people around him:

His parents
His siblings
His friends
His teachers
His doctor

None of them are legally bound to operate judiciously. They are all morally bound to do the right thing. They all failed him because they relied on a system that is not equipped to deal with a 'maybe'. Only when the 'maybe' becomes a reality is the system equipped to deal with him. By then, it's too late. The crime has been committed and the issue is immediately, and I mean immediately twisted to be about 'the guns'. it's astounding how quickly they can swoop in on a crime scene such as this and hijack the entire process from the very beginning. It's almost as if they were 'expecting something'.

'Expecting something'? Nah.....
Trump can't. The FBI can't. The County Sheriff c... (show quote)


Nailed it you did!!!
And yes, expecting something ~~

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