teabag09

That's the law now. The background checks rely on info inputted and that may be somewhat of a problem. I have a 67 year track record and it usually take a hour or so for results to come back. Why this kid wasn't on the don't sell list is the problem.

You can ban guns for law abiding people and make them victims, but you're not going to keep criminals from getting guns. Look at fast and furious. Mike

teabag09

Permy, I for one don't hug or even love my guns. I hate the fact that I even think I may need to have one handy. I do have one in my car, one in my bedroom, in my computer room,(actually a bunch as that's my gun room) and one in the living room that I can get to quickly if I need to.

When I was growing up the only reason to have a gun was to go hunting or plinking for fun. Unfortunately the world changed around me, against my desire and I have to live in the real world your side has created with the dumbing down of society. So excuse me if I occasionally have to hug my gun, I lay that totally at the feet of your ilk.

And yes, I fear you and your ilk for what you would have this best, great experiment on GOD's blue earth, become. Mike

teabag09

twowheel, ever consider she's multi-action only not in the upstairs area? Mike

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

The thought petrified me for a second, you mean like a carpet muncher?

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Ew.

teabag09

I don't personally know her so it's up to your imagination. Mike

pafret Loc: Northeast

I don't understand why you and Loki object. They can ban all the non-existent multi-action weapons they can find. Oops, maybe the collectors of the old M1 Garands will be pissed because you can still fix bayonets on them or use them as clubs.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

We're still trying to cipher a multi action thing a ma jig

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Exactly!

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

A state trooper stops a car for going a little too fast. The trooper slides up to the window and asks, "Sir, do you have any weapons on you today?"
"Why, yes I do." the driver replied.
"What weapon or weapons do you have, sir?" the trooper asked.
The driver said,"Well, let's see....I got a 38 special in the glove box, I got my 40 Cal. in my holster, ummmmm...oh yeah, a double barrel shotgun in the back seat, 12 gauge ya know.......yada yada yada....an AR-15 in the trunk with 4 30 round magazines...and my little 22 Cal. semi...holds 19 long rifle....love that little gun."
The trooper was amazed..."My God, sir, what are you afraid of?"
The driver quietly said..." Nothing!"

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

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permafrost Loc: Minnesota

As usual, you are specifically wrong..

http://fortune.com/2018/02/15/trump-shooting-mental-illness/

Yesterday, hours after 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz killed at least 17 people in a Florida high school, president Donald Trump was reportedly urged by White House staff to make a formal statement. Although he chose to wait until later on Feb. 15 to address the nation, he did soon tweet about the incident.

In a tweet early this morning, Trump framed the shooting it as he has done in the past, describing Cruz as a disturbed and “erratic” individual. The trouble is, Trump has made it much easier for mentally-disturbed Americans to buy guns in the United States.

13 Feb

Donald J. Trump
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Negotiations on DACA have begun. Republicans want to make a deal and Democrats say they want to make a deal. Wouldn’t it be great if we could finally, after so many years, solve the DACA puzzle. This will be our last chance, there will never be another opportunity! March 5th.


Donald J. Trump
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So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities, again and again!

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In February last year, the president signed a bill to overturn Obama-era regulations that restricted people with severe mental problems from buying guns. Those restrictions had been put into place after the 2012 massacre of schoolchildren in Newtown, Connecticut, by a young man with a history of mental illness.


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This is the only situation that would keep a mental patient from buying a gun..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/mental-health-gun-possession-explainer/index.html


How is a person with mental illness blocked from buying a gun?
Under federal law, a person can be tallied in a database and barred from purchasing or possessing a firearm due to a mental illness under two conditions: if he is involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, or if a court or government body declares him mentally incompetent.
When is someone considered committed?
In many states, including Florida, law enforcement can take an individual to a mental hospital against his or her will for an initial evaluation. If after 72 hours the doctors observing the individual want to continue that treatment, then they can petition a court for permission, even against the patient's wishes.
That -- a court order allowing a person's continued involuntary institutionalization -- is one thing that should stop an individual from purchasing a firearm.
If the person was taken in for mental treatment involuntarily but was not requested to be held past 72 hours, he is not blocked from buying a gun.
In Florida, if the court chose to commit even an underage individual, he would fail a background check on that basis.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

\\Selective reading much??

You do not understand the words i write???

I have been very clear in my posts that I do not support or think that gun confiscation is workable or is even being contemplated..

But gun regulation is a doable policy and we clearly need it..

No matter what I write, you only have knee jerk reaction of fear for your guns...

Do you have any ability to understand this point of view???

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

I'm sure Frosty, the reason so many Patriotic, Freedom & 2nd Amendment loving Americans have with the never ending onslaught of our Constitutional Rights perpetuated by you lefties that has not slowed down in the last 40 years is what gives us all pause. I have read where there are over 22,000 Fed, State, County, City, Municipality & Township laws on the books throughout the nation, making me wonder if not one, or several apply in all cases. What one must look at is the slow erosion of the 2nd Amendment by libs one little law at a time. Death by a thousand cuts. Anyone with an IQ above the temperature it takes to freeze water knows the ultimate agenda by leftist lib democrats is registration, leading to complete confiscation of every firearm in the US from law abiding citizens. Nothing but that will ever satisfy you and your ilk regardless of your protestations. But, what the hell, don't listen to me and lets just pass some more completely unenforceable gun laws!

Loki Loc: Georgia

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The regulation in question was adopted in December 2016 and went into effect on January 18, 2017, after the election of President Trump but before his inauguration two days later. Compliance with the rule was scheduled to begin on December 19, 2017. Before compliance ever began, however, the rule was repealed by a law passed through the House of Representatives and Senate, then signed by President Trump in February 2017. The regulation never had any effect.

The regulation would have required the Social Security Administration to report recipients who have their benefits managed by a representative payee and who meet other criteria to the FBI’s background check system, effectively barring them from legally owning firearms. It would have applied to recipients between the ages 18 and 65 who Social Security assigned a representative payee to after determining they were unable to manage their own finances due to a mental impairment. The Social Security Administration would then notify those affected over the phone and in writing. Those affected would have been able to challenge their designation but only after their records have been submitted to the FBI.

This Obama regulation was also vehemently opposed by the ACLU, not what you would call a champion of the Second Amendment, because it denied due process to the accused.
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/11/14/behind-the-claim-that-trump-made-it-easier-for-mental