JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

And you’ll never have an original thought. What a joke.

debeda

So...what you're saying is that us little everyday folksies shouldn't bother our little heads about policies or laws for our nation. We should just let our "paid people " in Congress do our thinking for us? Good grief no wonder our country is such a mess!!

moldyoldy

What is your solution?

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Here is what the "Gun-Control Debate," . . . And, "Gun Murder Debate" is all about. Lets' define the top "Four Issues"

All you liberals just want to talk about . . . which is just, . . . "Liberal Speak" for, . . . Nothing, . . . nonsense, and fake outrage BullSh -- i.e. Crap, and compost liberal speak on all issues, especially "Gun-Control Debate," . . . "Gun Murder Debate".


Here is what the "Gun-Control Debate," is all About . . . And, "Gun Shooting Murder Debate" is all about. Lets' define the top "Four Issues" . . .


1. 80 % percent of all crime and murder rates in this country, is about Drugs, Victims, Money and Power of Gangs, in America.

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?


Liberals tell the OPP Forum readers. Why another Weapon or Gun law, will change crime or murder rate in this Country ?

a. Out lawing of long rifles, confiscation of Long Rifles. (See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


Criminals, Don't care about Existing Gun Weapon laws. Look at the murder Rates ?

Look at any major city, 1. Saint Louis. 2. Baltimore. 3. Chicago. 4. New Orleans. 5. Detroit.

These are Drug war Zones, with the top murder rates in the country. Mainly black on black violence killing.

Again, Criminals Don't care about Existing Gun Weapon's and current laws, Jail time, or State Executions for death row Inmates . . .


2. This is all about "The Long Rifle," the AR-15 semi-Automatic weapon's replica's.

That look like a "Military Automatic Assault Rifles, such as the M16 or the M4 fully automatic machine gun . . .

a.This also about Ammunition Magazine sizes Clips, but liberals don't want to talk about these issues also ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

This the "Defining argument" in the leftist liberal mantra argument, the difference of a replica looking semi-Automatic weapon.

a. They the liberals don't know the difference between a replica semi-Automatic weapon.

That can only shoot one bullet at a time when a person depressing the trigger, or firing mechanism one squeeze at a time.
And that Americans can only Purchase legally in all 50 U.S. States and Territories, under existing U.S. laws.

b. And the "Difference" between a Military Automatic Assault Rifles, such as the M16 or the M4 a fully automatic machine weapon, gun . . . ?
One depression of the trigger, will empty the Ammunition Magazine sizes Clips within one second.
Americans "Can-Not" Purchase. In fact, it is "illegal" to own, in all 50 U.S. States and Territories laws under existing U.S. laws.

c. But liberals don't want to talk about these issues, period. ?

Liberals tell the OPP Forum readers. Why another Weapon or Gun law will change crime or murder rate in this Country. (See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


3. What are the root causes for these "Mass Murders" at public schools and public indoor and out door events ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

a. Muslim Terrorists, lone wolf terrorists . . .

b. Mentally ill, psychotic individuals who are under psychiatric care from a Doctor, Psychiatrist, Out Patient Mental Clinic.
We are talking about the mental health status, taking Pharmacological Psychotropic medication on these patients.

Any Psychotropic medication capable of affecting the mind, emotions, and behavior. Some medications such as lithium, which may be used to treat depression, are psychotropic. Also called a psychodynamic medication. There are over 180 different medications produces by Big Pharma, with $$$$ billions in yearly profit's.

Yet there is no accountability, of Doctor, Psychiatrist, Out Patient Mental Clinic's. Pharmacological claim's and the 1% to 5% percent adverse Mental Reactions causation effects actions on patients in Mass Murder Shootings.

And as to Psychotropic medication actual effectiveness and the "Major Long Term" side-affects on these anxiety, depression, Bi-Polar mental health diseases and of the brain.

The mental status and the "Copy-Cat" actions in most all these Mass Murder Shootings.

I call it the Revenge Syndrome and of the "One minute second of fame notoriety," Blaze of Glory-ill get you Columbine School massacre shootings.

(See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


4. Why are their not armed Guards and security measures taken by theses Schools and Gun-Free-Zones ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

a.This is not the first time these "Mass Murder Shootings" have taken place. Israel has stopped School killings and School Terrorism.

Why is the Schools Administrators, teachers and Parents done anything about this growing and escalating "Mass Murder Shootings."

This is only "Head-In-The-Sand-Mentality," of the liberal teachers and Schools Administrators. Where is their accountability ?

(See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


You want to have a dialogue and discuss the issues on "Gun-Control Debate," . . . "Gun Murder Debate" . . . Gun-Free-Zones.

Go for it, and no one liner bull-sh--, crap compost, substantive non inflammatory bleeding heart crybaby talk . . .

Respond with facts, . . . Facts, . . . FACTs, . . . no Supposition's, . . . no Innuendo's, . . . no Exaggeration's of your own personal emotional belief's, . . . no hypocritical truth's, . . . no empty rhetoric devoid of any real factual substantive liberal canned mantra statements, . . . that is full of regurgitated dendrite synapse, . . . compost opinions.

There will be no obfuscating and exaggeration of the facts.

Put-up or shut-up. . . .

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

What a pussy. Bitch and moan but expect someone else to solve the problem. That's right moldy, put all your faith in government and see where it gets you...on a path straight to HELL!

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Why should they answer? I asked you first and you pussied out.

moldyoldy

It is very stupid of you to demand a solution from me. You do not offer any solution. At least I want a debate, something that is repeatedly denied.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Doc,

You demand liberals give you a solution. Why? because we are the only ones concerned about the killings?

Many solutions have been proposed, all have been blocked by the NRA and other money groups as only about gun confiscation.. No, they were not..

But now I can not read your list so only a stab at a few things..

I would propose some gun rules and enforcement of the laws now on the books.

I would call for an age requirement, better back ground checks, limit on Magazine size. no silancers, body armor conversion kits.

I would like to have kept the ban on assault type guns, but that horse is out of the barn..Never to be put back..

A large part of the appeal for assault style guns is cosmetic.. they look bad, only a tough dude would own one of those.. they look as if designed to kill people..

Your concern about drugs is a good one and I am sorry for your personal loss..

but what about the great majority of patents who are helped by these drugs.. those negatively affected are a small minority. should the majority be punished for the deed of a few??? No drug ban..

I do not want armed guards in our schools.. Yes, Israel uses them. They have a never ending terrorist threat. We have nut cases..

A controlled entry system on every school is my proposal.. Along with stronger back ground checks. These seem to some things the will work in the real world..

to that list of crimes to make 80%, I would add; sex, love, and power..

I would also remind you, it is not a shortage of proposals by liberals, it is the "don`t take our guns" cry from the gun nuts.. they never offer any type of effort. The only issue for them is keeping guns.. any kind of gun..

The killings to them are simply a cost of what they think is liberty.. The guns they need to carry..

How would you attempt to limit the killings? specifically mass killings??

Bun723

AS MOST ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE US DO NOT HAVE SRO THEY WOULD BE THE PRIME TARGET FOR A SCHOOL SHOOTER LOOKING FOR THE MOST CASUALTIES.
IT MAKES SENSE DURING THESE TIMES TO ADD SRO NOW AND NOT LATER.. WE SEEM TO CLOSE THE GATE AFTER THE COWS HAVE LEFT THE PASTURE.
http://nationswell.com/kindergarten-cops-charleston-s-c-hall-monitors-guns/

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Those that watch only the MSM BS are like blind mice. Lab Rats, in a self inflicting experiment, and they go back for more.
So worth repeating:

"Here is what the "Gun-Control Debate," . . . And, "Gun Murder Debate" is all about. Lets' define the top "Four Issues"

All you liberals just want to talk about . . . which is just, . . . "Liberal Speak" for, . . . Nothing, . . . nonsense, and fake outrage BullSh -- i.e. Crap, and compost liberal speak on all issues, especially "Gun-Control Debate," . . . "Gun Murder Debate".


Here is what the "Gun-Control Debate," is all About . . . And, "Gun Shooting Murder Debate" is all about. Lets' define the top "Four Issues" . . .


1. 80 % percent of all crime and murder rates in this country, is about Drugs, Victims, Money and Power of Gangs, in America.

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?


Liberals tell the OPP Forum readers. Why another Weapon or Gun law, will change crime or murder rate in this Country ?

a. Out lawing of long rifles, confiscation of Long Rifles. (See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


Criminals, Don't care about Existing Gun Weapon laws. Look at the murder Rates ?

Look at any major city, 1. Saint Louis. 2. Baltimore. 3. Chicago. 4. New Orleans. 5. Detroit.

These are Drug war Zones, with the top murder rates in the country. Mainly black on black violence killing.

Again, Criminals Don't care about Existing Gun Weapon's and current laws, Jail time, or State Executions for death row Inmates . . .


2. This is all about "The Long Rifle," the AR-15 semi-Automatic weapon's replica's.

That look like a "Military Automatic Assault Rifles, such as the M16 or the M4 fully automatic machine gun . . .

a.This also about Ammunition Magazine sizes Clips, but liberals don't want to talk about these issues also ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

This the "Defining argument" in the leftist liberal mantra argument, the difference of a replica looking semi-Automatic weapon.

a. They the liberals don't know the difference between a replica semi-Automatic weapon.

That can only shoot one bullet at a time when a person depressing the trigger, or firing mechanism one squeeze at a time.
And that Americans can only Purchase legally in all 50 U.S. States and Territories, under existing U.S. laws.

b. And the "Difference" between a Military Automatic Assault Rifles, such as the M16 or the M4 a fully automatic machine weapon, gun . . . ?
One depression of the trigger, will empty the Ammunition Magazine sizes Clips within one second.
Americans "Can-Not" Purchase. In fact, it is "illegal" to own, in all 50 U.S. States and Territories laws under existing U.S. laws.

c. But liberals don't want to talk about these issues, period. ?

Liberals tell the OPP Forum readers. Why another Weapon or Gun law will change crime or murder rate in this Country. (See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


3. What are the root causes for these "Mass Murders" at public schools and public indoor and out door events ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

a. Muslim Terrorists, lone wolf terrorists . . .

b. Mentally ill, psychotic individuals who are under psychiatric care from a Doctor, Psychiatrist, Out Patient Mental Clinic.
We are talking about the mental health status, taking Pharmacological Psychotropic medication on these patients.

Any Psychotropic medication capable of affecting the mind, emotions, and behavior. Some medications such as lithium, which may be used to treat depression, are psychotropic. Also called a psychodynamic medication. There are over 180 different medications produces by Big Pharma, with $$$$ billions in yearly profit's.

Yet there is no accountability, of Doctor, Psychiatrist, Out Patient Mental Clinic's. Pharmacological claim's and the 1% to 5% percent adverse Mental Reactions causation effects actions on patients in Mass Murder Shootings.

And as to Psychotropic medication actual effectiveness and the "Major Long Term" side-affects on these anxiety, depression, Bi-Polar mental health diseases and of the brain.

The mental status and the "Copy-Cat" actions in most all these Mass Murder Shootings.

I call it the Revenge Syndrome and of the "One minute second of fame notoriety," Blaze of Glory-ill get you Columbine School massacre shootings.

(See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


4. Why are their not armed Guards and security measures taken by theses Schools and Gun-Free-Zones ?

Yes or no. Give an opinion ?

a.This is not the first time these "Mass Murder Shootings" have taken place. Israel has stopped School killings and School Terrorism.

Why is the Schools Administrators, teachers and Parents done anything about this growing and escalating "Mass Murder Shootings."

This is only "Head-In-The-Sand-Mentality," of the liberal teachers and Schools Administrators. Where is their accountability ?

(See Above Statement) . . . (See Chart below)

Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . . Crickets, . . .


You want to have a dialogue and discuss the issues on "Gun-Control Debate," . . . "Gun Murder Debate" . . . Gun-Free-Zones.

Go for it, and no one liner bull-sh--, crap compost, substantive non inflammatory bleeding heart crybaby talk . . .

Respond with facts, . . . Facts, . . . FACTs, . . . no Supposition's, . . . no Innuendo's, . . . no Exaggeration's of your own personal emotional belief's, . . . no hypocritical truth's, . . . no empty rhetoric devoid of any real factual substantive liberal canned mantra statements, . . . that is full of regurgitated dendrite synapse, . . . compost opinions.

There will be no obfuscating and exaggeration of the facts.

Put-up or shut-up. . " - Doc

S. Maturin

OK, OK - YOU claim "Trump spoke to those Russians"... prove he "spoke to Russians" and prove what he said was anything illegal or unconstitutional.

Without proof to back up your hateful spewing, your efforts are just 'bubbles in the bath tub'.

SO, step up with the proofs needed, or STFU.

S. Maturin

Isn't it obvious that the entire run the democrats are making on the second amendment is just the struggle of opportunists resembling carrion-eaters? Those haters of America stand knee-deep in victims' blood and body parts and claim normal, law-abiding Americans are vermin. Go figure, eh?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

The proof may be coming.. Lot of hirelings running at the mouth to stay out of prison..

face to face talk can seldom be proven, unless a witness will talk..

With trump being a 3rd generation criminal, he know that very well and seems to be counting on it..

What do you think he talked about and to who when he ran the women in the Moscow show??

How about finance and future favors.. No American banks would do biz with him. Yet the kids said they had all the money they needed from the Russian money..

We can all stop a minute and cheer this..

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"How would you attempt to limit the killings? specifically mass killings??" - perma

Enforce existing laws.
Go after the drug treatment kids are being subjected to.
Support more parental discipline. (not easy)
Instilling morals instead of what the Boob Toob and Hollywood promotes.
Violent gaming? The desensitizing of brutality and murder should be acknowledged.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

and you stand knee-deep in the same blood and body parts and cry "do not take our guns"

Nothing else, no attempt to help or protect anything but guns..

I like guns, been with them from before I started 1st grade..

Was a damn good shot once upon a time.. rifle team good..

but all these mass killing in our country are like no where else on earth.

We can indeed do something and it better be soon..