lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Thank you, I will. :mrgreen: I wasn't really sure how this post would go, as some of mine get derailed awful fast. I have noticed, from previous posts, that certain topics appear to scare off some folk. This was one of those, apparently, and I find that significant.

There are those who genuinely wish to learn more than what is immediately available to them, from ordinary people like us. I have discovered that many here on 1PP are only here to protect, defend and promulgate a particular parties rhetoric. They have that right. Some are here only to vent, bully and ridicule. They also have that right.

I tried experiments with name calling, labeling and insults, but I found it unfulfilling and unproductive. Ridiculing another's beliefs didn't change their minds, in fact, I think it did the opposite. I was diminished though and that's when I realized that such behavior is self destructive. When I responded to someone's insult to me, I became them, again self destructive.

I am not here to change anyone's mind, I don't have that right. I am here to EXCHANGE ideas, which means accepting a different idea sometimes. I can change my mind if I want to, but I won't have the chance if I refuse to consider anything other than what I think now. That would be self limiting.

Standing by one's beliefs is honorable, as long as one leaves the door open to the possibility that one is wrong, and maintain the ability to modify one's beliefs, when necessary. That is how one grows, keeps peace of mind and the only way to prosper.

Every idea is valuable, even the wrong one's, because no one knows everything or has had the same experiences. The very essence of discussion is an exchange of viewpoints where, if conducted in an amicable fashion, a more complete picture may be formed and a consensus reached. Our Country is in sore need of some consensus.

Lily

I think I have found mattresses for her. They don't have blue. ....well a tiny bit. They have pansies in different colors of purple, white and medium purple.

Lily

I found some and told the Asylum Dorector, Aunti. She decides. Hope you like pansies.

Oh, welcome. Because of your age, you will be close to the Director and/or Searching.

Art

:thumbup:

martychristiansoldier Loc: PA

It is all part of divided and conquer which is very real, and to many thrive on it. To some you have no view, so anything you say you are going to be an idiot. Basically, even if you are right you are wrong. This don't bother me anymore because I know what kind of people I am dealing with, and they can't change what I know to be the truth. Name calling is nothing more than intimidation, BUT, if we were all face to face, most would not say jit even if they had a mouth full.

stan3186

okay, lpnMajor as one of the worst of the name callers here along with BoJester, Jon Hatfield, CWO retired, and so on,, mostly left wing liberals it would be nice to have a civil discussion for a change. I have also stooped to name calling but mostly because of retaliation of the above mentioned posters as well as other liberal posters. I will try to refrain from spewing my admittedly right wing spew, but I bet large that it won't last even a full day because it seems that screaming "your stupid, ignorant, haven't a brain in your head" is the liberals best form of argument.
You also have to understand that the posters to this forum have very strong and opinionated views. The vigor in which I attack Obama is truly heartfelt and the anger expressed is genuine and not just to spew rhetoric.
We shall see.

Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA

Yes, I agree with you that our country is in sore need of some consensus and every idea IS valuable. We all have that inalienable right to free speech, to have a voice. HOWEVER, I disagree that everyone has a right to be a bully, or incredibly rude, if they so choose. You know what, they don't. With free speech comes a responsibility, and it has been overlooked more often here on OPP than I am comfortable with. It is called civility. Civility translates to having no fear when you give voice to your inner thoughts -- that when you express an opinion or personal philosophy to see what other's take is that at the very least there will be respect shown for you as a fellow human being, that you won't be humiliated or looked down on in contempt. Lest anyone doubt, however, I understand having passion for an opinion and expressing it towards a concept they vehemently disagree with. I just wish it was only directed toward a concept and not the person. Invariably, that's where it seems to go. I grew up in a household filled with rage. I thought that made me better able to handle the venom encountered on OPP because, if for no other reason, there is a buffer of a screen with no physical proximity to those who would personally insult or rage. I was wrong. As time has gone by, it has only made me feel all the worse, for those of us on OPP who seek answers, to exchange ideas, not rage and ridicule, and for our country, because we seem to be a mirror of what is going on across this beautiful country of ours. It makes me sad.

Viral

This is the type of thing that inevitably happens. I'm going to point out the problems with the post.


What purpose does a public naming and shaming serve? Why the generalization regarding liberals? It's not your fault you stooped to insults?

These words do not foster civility.

Naming and shaming will provoke, generalizing will alienate half your audience, and blaming others for your actions is disingenuous (responsibility is shared, them for provoking, you for taking the bait).

Strong and opinionated viewpoints are acceptable. Just remember that an opinion is not a fact, and shouldn't be presented as such. Also remember that *how* you present your ideas is just as (if not more) important as what you are presenting.

You can be angry. You can give biased opinions. Just keep in mind that your words are viewable to people with feelings with varying degrees of thickness of skin.

Duckie

I am taking a large step and assuming that you are a lady, if I am wrong I ask forgiveness in advance. Thank you kind lady for going out of your way to find me a pretty mattress and for placing me close to very loving role models. As you know, Ms. Searching is my Gram and AuntiE is now my Aunt. If you are related, then I am so happy to meet you.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Hang in there everybody

Loki Loc: Georgia

The Vocabulary Visigoth would speak with you privately.

Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana

Exactly ! Posting are mostly Opinions ( good or bad) and most references are opinion also , but a few people know how to push your button and get you going ! But you are right , ignoring the hostile people would be the best to do ! A lot of my postings are for information only but somehow it gets turned into "My ideas or way of life ) .

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

You are all right

Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.

Insults are vile. Euphemisms, however, can be dangerous, and they are the weapons of liberals. Lately, however, our citizens seem to have realized that these phrases have now morphed into unmitigated lies which act as semantic ploys which DO NOT CHANGE THE PLAIN, UNADULTERATED TRUTH:

INVESTMENTS = Green Energy/Solar Company Failures (BILLIONS WORTH).

SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND AND/OR "SHARED" PROSPERITY = "Sharing" your life, your work, your mind, your goals, your aspirations, and your practical success with anyone and everyone the GOVERNMENT DEEMS IS ENTITLED TO A POUND OF YOUR FLESH.

TARGETED MEASURES = Stimulus Revenue Enhancement

SHARED SACRIFICES = More taxes on the way

TAX REFORM = Tax hikes

FAIR SHARE = Class Warfare

SNAP = Food Stamps

BUMPS IN THE ROAD = Attacks on American Embassies

NOT OPTIMAL = The Merciless Murder of Four Brave Americans in Benghazi

WHAT DIFFERENCE, AT THIS POINT, DOES IT MAKE? = What's the big deal?!! Nobody I love is dead!!

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS = Illegal Aliens

IMMIGRATION REFORM = AMNESTY TO SCOFFLAWS

OVERSEAS CONTINGENCY OPERATION = Global War On Terror

MAN-CAUSED DISASTERS = Terrorism

DETAINEES = Enemy Combatants

KINETIC MILITARY ACTION = War on Terror

IF YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT = The Government made it happen! You owe them!!

WORKPLACE VIOLENCE = 13 DEAD SOLDIERS and over 30 injuries, due to an AMERICAN MAJOR who shouted "Allahu Akbar" during this TERRORIST MASSACRE AT FORT HOOD.

CROSSING A RED LINE = Obama vs. Putin - Putin wins!! America humiliated!

TWO BORDER PATROL AGENTS MURDERED, HUNDREDS OF MEXICANS KILLED =
"PRIVILEGED" ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR "FAST AND FURIOUS"INCOMPETENCE BECAUSE HE HAS A BUDDY IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH A PEN AND A PHONE.

SEQUESTER = I don't care if, on video, for all to see and hear, I DID ADMIT that I'd VETO any effort to STOP a Sequester. I'm the President and I can lie, say it wasn't my idea, and still get support from my adoring fans.

OBAMACARE = If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it - PERIOD! If you like your doctor you can keep him/her! PERIOD! - The ACA will save you $2,500.

TRAIN WRECK = A Website that was given 3-1/2 Years to construct, and experts said should cost no more that 5-10 MILLION DOLLARS, which has already cost the taxpayer ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

APOLOGY = "I am sorry that they(AMERICANS)are FINDING THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION based on ASSURANCES they got from me." (It's really not my fault - they're just lost!!)

ASSURANCES = LIES!! And BTW, American citizens aren't "FINDING themselves in this situation" - OBAMA MANDATED them there!! (APOLOGY? - BULL!!)

INCOME INEQUALITY = Wealth Distribution

stan3186

You don't like my post too bad. I don't want or need or like "holier than thou" attitudes.. You seem condescending in your post. A spade is a spade and the ones I named are well known for vicious attack post and people react to them like it or not.

If someone calls you a stupid wingnut asshole because you post your opinion on something, then most people are going to react to that post.
If you post links to back up you position and someone says that all the links were stupid republican rant articles, or that the person you are quoting is a stupid wingnut, then post no links themselves to back up their opinions, the human nature will require you to react viscerally.