permafrost Loc: Minnesota

On some iqore list.. some one with thin skin and easly hurt.. I hope they are in a safe place and not so offended..

I did so want to reply to them so I will settle for a new post and maybe they will read it..

so many ignore lists and so few of me..


damn, now I lost my reply.... Such a trying day... Try this, try that... Nothing works out..


Wait....I`ll be darned, maybe I can get it posted after all... Yepee...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Why are you so opposed to professional Journalist as opposed to attention seeking wanna bees who after they tell you what they want you to think is true, they offer to sell you a book sayting the same thing..

News services, some of whom have been in business for century or more, depend on a reputation for truth and accurate reporting to stay in their position..

they report less slanted articles then those which are pushing an agenda which will enrich themselves and fellow members..

You should look with a bit of logic at those who only call other names and produce no meaningful facts..

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Illegal Aliens send Mexico 100x any money they happen to earn while here illegally.

Lonewolf

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

You should read FDR New Deal or Raw Deal? to learn what really happened with FDR's New Deal socialist concepts. Also learn about the hundreds of communists within the FDR administration. It is an enlightening read.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

Where do you get this dumb idea that you are always right and those that think you are fell of hot air are always wrong? Are you suggesting Salon, CNN. NYT,NYP employ professional journalists ? You are more misguided then I thought you were. Maddow and Wallace are world class idiots.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

LOL,,, You seem to have a much different idea of what makes a professional journalist..

If you look back, every once in a while i have to eat crow over one thing or another..

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Now the commies have taken over the GOP.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Let us examine your meme about the cost of illegals. First, they do cost a great deal of money and most of their wages are not stimulating our economy, they send the vast majority of their funds back to their own country. Illegals have a tendency to shelter together, sometimes as many as 20 men have been found living in a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment. This is economically favorable for them, but does not help our housing market and will drive down prices in the neighborhood. Then comes the expense for law enforcement, these neighborhoods demand additional patrols to ensure some sense of safety for those living in the area. This may be perception only on the part of permanent residence, but they demand the extra force to feel safe. Couple this with medical care and education.... We hit a figure close to $335,000,000,000 dollars a year. Now deduct what Liberals say they pay in taxes, which is 19,000,000,000 and you can see... we still subsidize those illegals to the tune of $114,000,000,000 a year. This is not all federal money, state and local governments are getting ravaged by the costs, at over $88 billion. The federal government, by comparison, is getting off easy at $45 billion in costs for illegals.

I hear you, but they pay taxes! The taxes collected are only on those who are not underground, meaning they supply a SSN, even if it is stolen or forged, the money is taken out of their wages. But, FAIR noted that 35 percent of the illegal population operate in an underground economy hidden from tax collectors. Ranchers love these guys, they can be found hanging out at the 7/11 or most home improvement stores. The rancher drives by, announces how many he needs, they hop into the truck.....and away they go for the day. The rancher can work them like old mules, pay them in cash and not have to report them as employees that reduces their tax obligation and the illegal has a few hundred dollars that he can send 75 percent back to his country....tax free.

I know you are going to say that I pulled these number out from under my arm, but they are actually taken from a pro-immigration organizations.... Federation for American Immigration Reform and The Fiscal Burden Of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers. It is clear that price for their support and upkeep will not shrink, this year, estimated an additional 3,000,000,000 will be needed to maintain their standard of living.

Imagine the improvement in schools, imagine if there was a student to teacher ratio of 15 to 1 instead of 30 plus to 1. That hospital that needs new equipment. Roads that one could drive on without damage to your car or better yet, safe bridges. Imagine..... if the US did not put out so much money to support the illegals. Yes, this is "selfish" in the eyes of some, but there comes a time when you have to choose, feed and shelter the world... or your hungry children, elderly, and homeless Americans.

So... do we need to reform immigration and do we need the wall? And, by the way.... I can find no report, leaked or otherwise that supports your meme.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

About time you got something right

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

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