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Jan 25, 2018 16:11:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
lindajoy wrote:
Amen!!!! Nailed it with this one and your earlier post..So enjoy reading them you are a breath of fresh air!!!


Thank you Linda, we are on the right side..

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Jan 25, 2018 16:20:06   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, you do demonstrate stupidity.. Glad you can admit it..


Nice try but are you so dumb and naive you didn't know I was talking about the Muslim disaster. I was toying with the idea that you were a tad smarter then Kevyn and Nicci but yuo sure took care of that. You must also know that if I was stupid I would be a Liberal and that thought alone makes me queasy.

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Jan 25, 2018 16:26:03   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
mouset783 wrote:
Nice try but are you so dumb and naive you didn't know I was talking about the Muslim disaster. I was toying with the idea that you were a tad smarter then Kevyn and Nicci but yuo sure took care of that. You must also know that if I was stupid I would be a Liberal and that thought alone makes me queasy.



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Jan 25, 2018 17:00:57   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
LOKI,

That reply is far below the usual level of reply.. Yes, the US is bound by the world court..


So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants and refugees from every hell hole and shit hole in the world, we are bound to obey? In case you haven't looked, Iran committed an Act of War against us when they took over our embassy. Screw them. Let them pay reparations to their victims.
One more thing: Before you say the US is bound by the World Court, you should reference Reid v Covert 1957. The SCOTUS ruled that no agreement with a foreign nation can supersede the Constitution, and the US Government cannot spend money unless the House first okays it.

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Jan 25, 2018 17:15:30   #
bahmer
 
mouset783 wrote:
Nice try but are you so dumb and naive you didn't know I was talking about the Muslim disaster. I was toying with the idea that you were a tad smarter then Kevyn and Nicci but yuo sure took care of that. You must also know that if I was stupid I would be a Liberal and that thought alone makes me queasy.


Excellent response I got a good chuckle out of your answer.

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Jan 25, 2018 17:26:36   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Loki wrote:
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants and refugees from every hell hole and shit hole in the world, we are bound to obey? In case you haven't looked, Iran committed an Act of War against us when they took over our embassy. Screw them. Let them pay reparations to their victims.
One more thing: Before you say the US is bound by the World Court, you should reference Reid v Covert 1957. The SCOTUS ruled that no agreement with a foreign nation can supersede the Constitution, and the US Government cannot spend money unless the House first okays it.
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants an... (show quote)


Here you go again, introducing fact..

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Jan 25, 2018 17:55:25   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
None of this is true and you have no links to show otherwise.

In your last lines you try to mix religion with your misguided political views..

This is another unAmerican habit you have developed..


Here's some true America development.. Justice Department Inspector General.. Michael Horowitz; "we have recovered the five months of missing texts"

It's all starting to come up Roses..'How sweet it is'

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Jan 25, 2018 18:42:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Loki wrote:
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants and refugees from every hell hole and shit hole in the world, we are bound to obey? In case you haven't looked, Iran committed an Act of War against us when they took over our embassy. Screw them. Let them pay reparations to their victims.
One more thing: Before you say the US is bound by the World Court, you should reference Reid v Covert 1957. The SCOTUS ruled that no agreement with a foreign nation can supersede the Constitution, and the US Government cannot spend money unless the House first okays it.
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants an... (show quote)



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Jan 25, 2018 18:45:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
byronglimish wrote:
Here's some true America development.. Justice Department Inspector General.. Michael Horowitz; "we have recovered the five months of missing texts"

It's all starting to come up Roses..'How sweet it is'


Beginning to wonder who is investigating whom at this point...As well as wondering whats really going on in our world??

Seems all this mess takes front stage while the rest of the world goes on doing whatever’ it is they are doing right now???

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Jan 25, 2018 19:27:46   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
lindajoy wrote:
Beginning to wonder who is investigating whom at this point...As well as wondering whats really going on in our world??

Seems all this mess takes front stage while the rest of the world goes on doing whatever’ it is they are doing right now???



I hear you, it's a complete mess..

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Jan 25, 2018 19:30:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
You support giving pallet loads of cash to anti-American terrorists and call someone else's habits UnAmerican?

Project much?




You are a bit needy arn`t you... We gave nothing to Iran.. the money was theirs.. Not ours..

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Jan 25, 2018 19:44:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
My link to the truth has nothing to do with your low slung deflection..

Do you actually imagine that Im the only American who knows without a doubt that obama desires the fall of this nation..??

You can deny and mishandle the truth to your own...am I the only person to call you a troll, because your cause is everything to undermine our sovereignty as a people??

Nothing I've read of Prog propaganda is for making America stand out in the world..but to blend in with third world people by bowing to their third world ways, that have their nation's in dire straights..

Only an enemy or fool could believe that any other governmental system is better than what has made this nation great...

Common sense is not the trolls strong point.. antagonistic bullshit is..
My link to the truth has nothing to do with your l... (show quote)





I have no doubt that you believe what you think is true.. but you do not understand that what is in your head is only wishes and dreams.

What is undermining the nation is the very people you helped put in power... The rich have now nearly everything they can skim from you and the rest of America..

Next time the revise the tax, what is left for them to take from you???

Whoever told you that some other governmental system was better then the one we have had for centuries??

The liberal and Dems are working very hard to keep our nation great and preserve the freedoms our founding fathers intended us to have..

The removal of the few regulations which are to help the workers and the population are being done at a staggering pace. You do not seem to be aware of what is going on..

The rich fought the war against the poor long ago and won.. Now they are simply putting out the embers..

Trade is now a mess.. and only getting worse.. Like it or not the multinational corps moved us into a world economy long ago. trump moving us out and recending the leadership is not helping.

/www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/01/23/americans-wallets-will-take-a-hit-under-trumps-dumb-trade-policy/?utm_term=.4d93e2557d5a


President Donald Trump slapped steep tariffs on imports of solar panels and washing machines, kicking off his second year in office by showing he is ready to start implementing his long-promised “America First” trade policy.

The moves were announced Monday in response to U.S. industry pleas for relief from a recent flood of cheap imports and are the first of what administration officials said would be a series of trade-enforcement actions in the coming months.

This ill-conceived and counterproductive action, which amounts to a tax on consumers, risks setting off trade fights with our most critical trading partners. (“The tariffs are aimed mainly at Asian manufacturers—Chinese makers of solar panels and South Korean producers of washing machines. But the administration announced few exceptions for any countries, indicating a willingness to impose comprehensive new protective policies for U.S. companies against global competition. The new curbs also would affect trading partners from Mexico and Canada to Europe.”)

Think of it this way: If you have to buy a washing machine this year, part of that tax cut you were promised is now taken away, in the form of a tax (tariff) on the machine you need. Home-builders who sell houses with appliances installed will pass costs off to consumers. The same is true of purchasers of solar power panels — be they individuals or businesses, which will turn around and charge consumers more and/or hold off on wage increases. If you argue that corporate tax cuts help consumers and/or workers, then tariffs logically would hurt both. If you are concerned about an uptick in inflation, then tariffs should be off the table.

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Jan 25, 2018 19:57:16   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lindajoy wrote:
The US is not bound by any such court..The United States is not even a participant in the International Criminal Court (ICC)....

We withdrew 2002 standing with Isreal..Clinton never submitted to the house for radicicstoon, Nush said flat out not playing, bo hemmed around like he typically did and it was not signed.. Trump told them no deal..

So we are not bound bybanything with them or even the 124 states that are members...



You have a point, I should have said international court and explained how it was formed.. So see the post below..

Wall street journal..

But the Wall Street Journal story is actually describing a payment that President Obama announced back in January. The news here is that the payment had already been delivered — which is to say this is a story about details of timing and how the cash was delivered.

And, as Solomon and Lee write, the payment was the result of an agreed settlement to a 35-year case in international court. It had nothing to do, as Royce says, with any "ransom" payment with Iran.

Once you understand these facts, you'll understand that this isn’t actually a story about a scandalous Obama administration payment to Iran. It’s a story about the way Washington’s debate over Iran is fundamentally broken.

n very simple terms, this payment is the first installment of a refund for US weapons that Iran purchased but that America never delivered. It starts in 1979, the year of the Iranian Revolution.

In November 1979, a group loyal to the revolutionary regime took 52 Americans hostage at the US Embassy in Tehran. In response, the United States severed diplomatic relations with Iran and froze Iranian assets in America.

Crucially, the United States halted a delivery of fighter jets that Iran’s pre-revolution government had already paid $400 million for. Normally the US would have returned the money if it wasn’t going to deliver the planes, since countries don’t just break formal agreements like that. But the US government had already frozen Iranian assets in the United States as punishment for the hostage-taking — and that included the $400 million.

The hostage crisis was eventually resolved in 1981, at a conference in Algiers. But the Algiers Accords didn’t resolve every outstanding issue — including the legal status of the $400 million.

Instead, the accord set up an international court, based in the Hague, to deal with any legal claims that the governments of Iran and the United States had against each other, or that individual citizens of either country had against the other country.

This court, called the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal, functioned as a kind of binding arbitration. To deal with cases, the involved parties could either negotiate a settlement out of court or take it to a panel made up of three US-appointed judges, three Iranian-appointed judges, and three neutral judges. The panel would then hear the case and issue a binding ruling.

This process, as you might guess, was very, very slow. By the time Obama’s second term in office began, the tribunal still had not come to a ruling on the issue of the $400 million. Sometime afterward, the Associated Press’s Matt Lee and Bradley Klapper report, the US government apparently concluded that it was going to lose the case — and lose big: Iran was seeking $10 billion in today’s dollars.

"US officials had expected a ruling on the Iranian claim from the tribunal any time, and feared a ruling that would have made the interest payments much higher," Lee and Klapper write.

So the Obama administration decided to settle out of court, opening up negotiations with Iran on the terms of the settlement. It did this at the same time it was negotiating the nuclear deal and the return of four US citizens who had been detained by Iran more recently.

However, the people working on the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were different from the team working on the court case around the weapons money — some of the latter group had been involved with the claims tribunal for years.

By January 2016, the countries had struck a deal — the US would pay Iran $1.7 billion, which amounts to about $300 million in interest on top of the originally frozen assets (accounting for inflation).

This settlement was announced the same day in January as Iran received its first round of sanctions relief from the Iran deal.

The deal was paid in installments, with $400 million being handed over to Iran on the same day that the US prisoners were released (January 17). The next $1.3 billion, according to Solomon and Lee Wednesday’s report, was paid over the course of the next 19 days.

The reason this was done in installments is that US law prevents the US government from giving Iran dollars, so the government had to scrape together foreign currency. Getting together large amounts of foreign cash is tough even for the US government — hence the short-term installment plan.

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Jan 25, 2018 20:04:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Loki wrote:
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants and refugees from every hell hole and shit hole in the world, we are bound to obey? In case you haven't looked, Iran committed an Act of War against us when they took over our embassy. Screw them. Let them pay reparations to their victims.
One more thing: Before you say the US is bound by the World Court, you should reference Reid v Covert 1957. The SCOTUS ruled that no agreement with a foreign nation can supersede the Constitution, and the US Government cannot spend money unless the House first okays it.
So when they tell us we MUST take in immigrants an... (show quote)




World court,,,,,,,See my post to linda.....


Yes we do bring in the poor and the oppressed and the needy.

We bring Poles, Greeks, Italians, Irish, Spanish, Even those wonderful Norwegians and Swedes..

It is the Christian thing to do...

things change due to world conditions.. these are numbers from 2016..

Table 3: Presidential Determination on Refugee Admissions, FY 2016

Africa

25,000

East Asia

13,000

Europe and Central Asia

4,000

Latin America/Caribbean

3,000

Near East/South Asia

34,000

Unallocated Reserve

6,000

TOTAL

85,000

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Jan 25, 2018 21:05:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
You are a bit needy arn`t you... We gave nothing to Iran.. the money was theirs.. Not ours..
I'm needy? You do project.

You might be too stupid to know this, or you might just not care, but at the time of the Obama payoff, America was at war with some of the people Iran used that money to help.

The America froze their assets, was because they intend to use the money to help terrorize and murder innocent people.

You know how drug kingpins have their assets frozen? It's like that but 1000 times as important.

But you would happily support the murder of innocent people just to keep from admitting your pick for POTUS was wrong.

That is why you have no soul.

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