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Voter Fraud, Photo ID's, & Racism - Part 1
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Jan 24, 2018 15:09:41   #
JoyV
 
Super Dave wrote:
Please.

Your slavish devotion to Obama is unbecoming.

Obama elected to endanger American military personnel by transporting pallet loads of cash instead of using a simple fund transfer.

He refused to tell Congress because he knew even Democrats would object.

And no, he was not onbligated to help fund terrorism. He chose to.


The money was frozen when the Shah of Iran died. It was in the Chase Manhattan Bank. But despite it being claimed by Iran, it was a personal loan made to the Shah by Rockefeller after the Shah was deposed. Obama chose to take the word of Iran that the money was theirs despite the evidence to the contrary.

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Jan 24, 2018 15:15:45   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
JoyV wrote:
The money was frozen when the Shah of Iran died. It was in the Chase Manhattan Bank. But despite it being claimed by Iran, it was a personal loan made to the Shah by Rockefeller after the Shah was deposed. Obama chose to take the word of Iran that the money was theirs despite the evidence to the contrary.
Well now it all makes sense.

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Jan 24, 2018 15:31:12   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
JoyV wrote:
The money was frozen when the Shah of Iran died. It was in the Chase Manhattan Bank. But despite it being claimed by Iran, it was a personal loan made to the Shah by Rockefeller after the Shah was deposed. Obama chose to take the word of Iran that the money was theirs despite the evidence to the contrary.


And they claim Trump is a liar Wow! O dumdum and the pig still rein as the champions.

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Jan 24, 2018 15:45:06   #
Jean Deaux
 
ACP45 wrote:
A number of OPP'ers have expressed an opinion that requiring photo id's, or requiring the identification of a person intending to vote in a US election is racist, and discriminates against minorities. To that end, I ask you to consider on the following:


No tickee, no washee. Its long past high time that anyone that votes has to present a valid, tamper proof ID. No more messing about; if you're so disinterested that you can't obtain a valid document from the government, you have NO business voting. Its a point called responsibility and it is essential to provide faith in the integrity of our democratic Republic.

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Jan 24, 2018 15:51:03   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Make it federal instead of each state making their own rules in order to control who gets to vote. As much as you harp on voter fraud, there have been 31 cases total out of billions of votes in over twenty years.


It has to be Federal for any federal election. As such, it should be adequate for any state or country elections as well. I would like to see an Independent source for the 31 cases of voter fraud you cite.

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Jan 24, 2018 15:53:54   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Proof of birth or citizenship, I wonder what that means. Those people born at home, probably do not have a birth certificate.


Times is hard! All states have remedies for such situations but it may take a modicum of effort to get a BC.

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Jan 24, 2018 16:01:32   #
Jean Deaux
 
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Very simply make it a requirement that EVERY one that votes shows a tamper proof voting ID. Color wouldn't make any difference, belligerence might!

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Jan 24, 2018 16:02:36   #
JoyV
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
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Very simply make it a requirement that EVERY one that votes shows a tamper proof voting ID. Color wouldn't make any difference, belligerence might!



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Jan 24, 2018 16:10:30   #
johnmont
 
JFlorio wrote:
It’s a State issue. God you’re ignorant. Wasn’t an issue until Democrats started incentivizing illegals to pour into the country. Impossible to debate you people because you’re either clueless, trolls, or too partisan to be honest. Perm can’t even answer how he would make sure all those who vote are eligible to vote. How would you?
I am well, aware that its a state issue!So how many solid red states have passed voter ID laws?What incentives illegals to enter our country is to WORK for a better life but the corporations that hire them use ICE to blackmail them into being paid less than they would pay Americans!!

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Jan 24, 2018 16:10:40   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If you want voter ID, make it universal, same for everybody, available for students and minorities without requiring excessive travel, and inconvenient times to get them, which are all problems created by those pushing voter suppression.



It is a privilege to vote! Excessive travel and inconvenient times are irrelevent. When working overseas, I had to drive over 250 miles across the desert in order to vote at an embassy. It took a day. Convenient? Whats your guess? It is one of your precious rights and for you to fritter your right to do so is irresponsible, convenient or not.

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Jan 24, 2018 16:13:47   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
"Proof of birth or citizenship, I wonder what that means. Those people born at home, probably do not have a birth certificate."

Yeah, they do have one, unless they were raised by wolves.

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Jan 24, 2018 16:17:59   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Tyical right wing stories with no basis in fact. Show some proof.
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Had you kept up with the facts, in the previous election there were a half dozen polling places that had more votes cast than registered voters. If memory serves they were in Ohio and PA. Several had 100% democrat voters, a virtual impossibility. But I suspect you'd have had to be paying attention to such matters or deliberately ignored them. It makes voters very suspicious of the results of our great system but it requires integrity on the part of the voters. By the way, the skewing of the results was to the left.

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Jan 24, 2018 16:28:52   #
Jean Deaux
 
JFlorio wrote:
If it's to much trouble for your lazy parasitic ass don't vote. Other countries stand in lines under gun fire (Iraq) to vote. Lazy POS's in this country don't think it's important enough to go out of their way and get ID and or stand in line.
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From the examples shown it would appear that they waited to get ID till they showed up at the polling places Perhaps attending to details a bit earlier would have prevented some of the difficulties. Why is it that so many are actually able to get a hassle free ID card while others are constantly confounded? A great deal more to it than color!

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Jan 24, 2018 16:33:37   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Minorities are waiting in lines in snow and rain for 5 to 8 hours, while other areas have no lines. Voter suppression is real and the GOP will pay for it.
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I very much doubt that the GOP will miss your vote but rest assured that it is not voter suppression that is the problem. It is crowds of non citizens voting and some of these troubles can be blamed on the system having to sort out the citizens from the non citizens in order to have a reputable election. The cheaters should be jailed till 6 months after the next election in order to keep them out of mischief.

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Jan 24, 2018 16:38:12   #
Jean Deaux
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/florida-voters-wait-in-line-8-hours.2280990/


www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/opinion/26tue4.html
Aug 25, 2008 · Some students waited in line for 10 hours, ... or in which black voters wait in the rain for hours, while white voters zip through polling places, ..
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What? They weren't smart enough to bring an umbrella on a rainy day. Whose opinion was given in the 26 Aug, 2008 nytimes revelation? I say nonsense!

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