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Jan 14, 2018 14:40:23   #
emarine
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Bird Buddy... I've seen your info in the past 10 times.. after the 50'th time it propaganda selling conspiracy theory... its not retirement... its boredom..." - emarine

Well you are here, what brings you to this neck of the woods?
Are you under contract?
Apparently you buy into the Man Made; Global warming/Climate Change/Global Cooling spiel. You agree with Morgan, so have at it.




Kind of a funny question from someone hard selling conspiracy theory's... Its not that I don't understand your views & do agree with some of them to a point.. you just go way too far to the point of radical... radical Islam is not the only problem we face as a nation...

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Jan 14, 2018 14:46:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Radical Islam, free radical's. Whats a person to do?
emarine wrote:
Kind of a funny question from someone hard selling conspiracy theory's... Its not that I don't understand your views & do agree with some of them to a point.. you just go way too far to the point of radical... radical Islam is not the only problem we face as a nation...

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Jan 14, 2018 14:57:06   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
emarine wrote:
Kind of a funny question from someone hard selling conspiracy theory's... Its not that I don't understand your views & do agree with some of them to a point.. you just go way too far to the point of radical... radical Islam is not the only problem we face as a nation...


"radical Islam is not the only problem we face as a nation." - emarine
We agree on that. how does that answer my question?
"What exactly are you saying is propaganda; insinuating that what I cover is false." - eagleye


"maybe you should figure out what propaganda is... I define it as a tool to sell ones point of view... I offer my opinion, I'm not selling anything... but my Bird Buddy is hard selling his ass off repetitively with every post... what is obvious to some ... is oblivious to others who share the same point of view..." - emarine

It doesn't take propaganda to refute Communism, emarine.
To understand Communism, one has to realize who and what is behind Communism. Communism is acceptable to some, because it is diabolical. That is what I attempt to expose, and will continue to do so. What exactly are you saying is propaganda; insinuating that what I cover is false.

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Jan 14, 2018 15:07:26   #
emarine
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"maybe you should figure out what propaganda is... I define it as a tool to sell ones point of view... I offer my opinion, I'm not selling anything... but my Bird Buddy is hard selling his ass off repetitively with every post... what is obvious to some ... is oblivious to others who share the same point of view..." - emarine

It doesn't take propaganda to refute Communism, emarine.
To understand Communism, one has to realize who and what is behind Communism. Communism is acceptable to some, because it is diabolical. That is what I attempt to expose, and will continue to do so. What exactly are you saying is propaganda; insinuating that what I cover is false.
"maybe you should figure out what propaganda ... (show quote)



Two aspects of propaganda are repetition & blame... you continuously inject off topic propaganda hard selling your views to an extreme measure... it just gets old buddy...

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Jan 14, 2018 15:10:22   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
emarine wrote:
Two aspects of propaganda are repetition & blame... you continuously inject off topic propaganda hard selling your views to an extreme measure... it just gets old buddy...

Well for you, no problem.
Dealing with Morgan is a pain I have to deal with. We all have our crosses to bare.

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Jan 14, 2018 16:11:03   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
lindajoy wrote:
Nice, if you like cool weather?? Do you Poppa??


We are having a cool spell today. It was 86° yesterday but has dropped down to 83° today. However, I am comfortable with only a light sweater.
And no, I do not like cool weather. The warmer the better, although I do draw the line at anything over 105°.

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Jan 14, 2018 18:14:05   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
What wastes are 'we' incurring? And, who is 'we'?

And, why should the American public have to fork out more money to government to scare away the boogy man under your bed? How is that going to fix this approaching extinction of life on earth? Which, by the by, isn't happening at all.
You leftists seem to think the answer to everything is to take more, and more from everyone, and give it to government, so lawyers, politicians, and unelected bureaucrats can enrich themselves, and run our lives.
That's not what I want for my children, and grandchildren.
What wastes are 'we' incurring? And, who is 'we'? ... (show quote)


Waste as in what is spewed into the air, dumped into the earth and flowed into the water. We keep these things clean by regulations, not collecting tax dollars. It is requiring the people who create the waste by producing their resource which we then buy and when we buy it, part of that revenue should go to cleaning up that waste that was also produced. Do you not think that's fair, the people who create the waste disperse of it...correctly.

Get over this entrenched conditioned thinking the left takes from us, it is wrong, so wrong.

As far as extinctions you've asked me this before and I answered you, what were some of the latest extinctions, and I mentioned three different breeds of Rhino's, check also into fisheries, birds, plants, the coral reefs. It is happening... but we don't go running into the night screaming, we simply sit down and say...these are the changes we need to make. That's what we're trying to do but all we get is no conversation and just denial. No changes are made and the industrialists just keep on keeping on, and things continue to get worse and more difficult to recover.

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Jan 14, 2018 18:28:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
Waste as in what is spewed into the air, dumped into the earth and flowed into the water. We keep these things clean by regulations, not collecting tax dollars. It is requiring the people who create the waste by producing their resource which we then buy and when we buy it, part of that revenue should go to cleaning up that waste that was also produced. Do you not think that's fair, the people who create the waste disperse of it...correctly.

Get over this entrenched conditioned thinking the left takes from us, it is wrong, so wrong.

As far as extinctions you've asked me this before and I answered you, what were some of the latest extinctions, and I mentioned three different breeds of Rhino's, check also into fisheries, birds, plants, the coral reefs. It is happening... but we don't go running into the night screaming, we simply sit down and say...these are the changes we need to make. That's what we're trying to do but all we get is no conversation and just denial. No changes are made and the industrialists just keep on keeping on, and things continue to get worse and more difficult to recover.
Waste as in what is spewed into the air, dumped in... (show quote)


Some of what you say is true. We are to be good stewards of the earth. We mostly fail. Industries are going cleaner. Sometimes because of regulation or the fear of law suits. Not every regulation is good. Some are harmful. Liberals have a bad habit of loving something because of its name. Environmental Protection Agency is one. They can come on your land that has puddles after a storm and declare it wetlands and you can’t touch it. You may think industrialists are bad and many might be but that doesn’t make bureaucrats any better. I want clean air and water. How about diverting all those funds to fight climate change or pay off countries supposedly wronged by industry to cleaning up the oceans and waterways. What is your solution that allows one to also keep their quality of life?

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Jan 14, 2018 19:53:04   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Waste as in what is spewed into the air, dumped into the earth and flowed into the water. We keep these things clean by regulations, not collecting tax dollars. It is requiring the people who create the waste by producing their resource which we then buy and when we buy it, part of that revenue should go to cleaning up that waste that was also produced. Do you not think that's fair, the people who create the waste disperse of it...correctly.

Get over this entrenched conditioned thinking the left takes from us, it is wrong, so wrong.

As far as extinctions you've asked me this before and I answered you, what were some of the latest extinctions, and I mentioned three different breeds of Rhino's, check also into fisheries, birds, plants, the coral reefs. It is happening... but we don't go running into the night screaming, we simply sit down and say...these are the changes we need to make. That's what we're trying to do but all we get is no conversation and just denial. No changes are made and the industrialists just keep on keeping on, and things continue to get worse and more difficult to recover.
Waste as in what is spewed into the air, dumped in... (show quote)


Did those rhinos go extinct because of global cooling/warming/climate change/climate crisis, or, out of control hunting practices?

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Jan 14, 2018 19:56:55   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Some of what you say is true. We are to be good stewards of the earth. We mostly fail. Industries are going cleaner. Sometimes because of regulation or the fear of law suits. Not every regulation is good. Some are harmful. Liberals have a bad habit of loving something because of its name. Environmental Protection Agency is one. They can come on your land that has puddles after a storm and declare it wetlands and you can’t touch it. You may think industrialists are bad and many might be but that doesn’t make bureaucrats any better. I want clean air and water. How about diverting all those funds to fight climate change or pay off countries supposedly wronged by industry to cleaning up the oceans and waterways. What is your solution that allows one to also keep their quality of life?
Some of what you say is true. We are to be good st... (show quote)



It's a definite balance, and believe it or not I agree on the possible overuse of regulations, some being repetitive. This is why the right people put in place is so important. Some regulation for example are ignored due to the fine doesn't substantiate them not doing what they are supposed to, they're happy to take the fine.
I don't think industrialist are bad, it's their actions that are bad, as in covertly dumping where they shouldn't be, poisoning rivers which in turn the animals or our water supply...etc. It is industrialist like Cheney who takes on a political position and then impacts the EPA by revoking a clean water act. Or Pruitt changing the laws for some DDT's when he himself had a lawsuit against the EPA. Do you really think he is the best neutral candidate for the job?

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Jan 14, 2018 20:02:49   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Some of what you say is true. We are to be good stewards of the earth. We mostly fail. Industries are going cleaner. Sometimes because of regulation or the fear of law suits. Not every regulation is good. Some are harmful. Liberals have a bad habit of loving something because of its name. Environmental Protection Agency is one. They can come on your land that has puddles after a storm and declare it wetlands and you can’t touch it. You may think industrialists are bad and many might be but that doesn’t make bureaucrats any better. I want clean air and water. How about diverting all those funds to fight climate change or pay off countries supposedly wronged by industry to cleaning up the oceans and waterways. What is your solution that allows one to also keep their quality of life?
Some of what you say is true. We are to be good st... (show quote)


Jim, if you'll go to page 28 of this thread, you'll see a picture of a snake that I allowed to live because it's part of a larger ecosystem. Morgan doesn't seem to understand that we support the planet, and natural life at large. It appears that her only answer is to take money, and give it to the 'preachers' of this garbage.
I can't help but wonder if she would tolerate the creepy crawlies that my wife does out here in the sticker patch.

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Jan 14, 2018 20:05:47   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
It's a definite balance, and believe it or not I agree on the possible overuse of regulations, some being repetitive. This is why the right people put in place is so important. Some regulation for example are ignored due to the fine doesn't substantiate them not doing what they are supposed to, they're happy to take the fine.
I don't think industrialist are bad, it's their actions that are bad, as in covertly dumping where they shouldn't be, poisoning rivers which in turn the animals or our water supply...etc. It is industrialist like Cheney who takes on a political position and then impacts the EPA by revoking a clean water act. Or Pruitt changing the laws for some DDT's when he himself had a lawsuit against the EPA. Do you really think he is the best neutral candidate for the job?
It's a definite balance, and believe it or not I a... (show quote)


Was there an outcry when the EPA opened up that mine in Colorado, and polluted the Animas river? Ahhhhh.......no.

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Jan 14, 2018 20:57:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
archie bunker wrote:
Jim, if you'll go to page 28 of this thread, you'll see a picture of a snake that I allowed to live because it's part of a larger ecosystem. Morgan doesn't seem to understand that we support the planet, and natural life at large. It appears that her only answer is to take money, and give it to the 'preachers' of this garbage.
I can't help but wonder if she would tolerate the creepy crawlies that my wife does out here in the sticker patch.


I’ll never understand why the liberal mind sees profits as evil. Borders not needed. Laws obeyed they agree with and ignore those they don’t. Protect illegals with Sanctuary cities and states, but not our own citizens. America not first. People are any gender they say they are. Can’t wait until that white guy identifying as a black female gets a job in front of a minority because he fulfills two hiring requirements. It will happen.
O.k. Back to what you said. People like us Arch, that love the outdoors aren’t the enemy because we see man made climate change as mostly a money grab. I will fight air and water pollution anyway I can.
Saw that gopher snake. Looked a lot like the bull snake I found kicked back in my kayak. Kudo’s for not going Lindajoy on his ass. Drove him to the local park let him go. Probably got eaten by the local fish 🦅 eagle. I’ll trust a fellow citizen a lot more than some bureaucrats with an agenda.

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Jan 14, 2018 21:08:48   #
emarine
 
archie bunker wrote:
Did those rhinos go extinct because of global cooling/warming/climate change/climate crisis, or, out of control hunting practices?




Na Arch... we just registered Independent...

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Jan 14, 2018 21:21:39   #
emarine
 
JFlorio wrote:
I’ll never understand why the liberal mind sees profits as evil. Borders not needed. Laws obeyed they agree with and ignore those they don’t. Protect illegals with Sanctuary cities and states, but not our own citizens. America not first. People are any gender they say they are. Can’t wait until that white guy identifying as a black female gets a job in front of a minority because he fulfills two hiring requirements. It will happen.
O.k. Back to what you said. People like us Arch, that love the outdoors aren’t the enemy because we see man made climate change as mostly a money grab. I will fight air and water pollution anyway I can.
Saw that gopher snake. Looked a lot like the bull snake I found kicked back in my kayak. Kudo’s for not going Lindajoy on his ass. Drove him to the local park let him go. Probably got eaten by the local fish 🦅 eagle. I’ll trust a fellow citizen a lot more than some bureaucrats with an agenda.
I’ll never understand why the liberal mind sees pr... (show quote)




Profits are good... profits that come from negatively impacting people aren't good ... there is a balance...

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