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Jan 7, 2018 22:10:54   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
working class stiff wrote:
OOoooh....another internet tough guy.


No. Not at all.

Try again?

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Jan 7, 2018 22:15:39   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Super Dave wrote:
No. Not at all.

Try again?


Since she was answering my post...why did you encourage her to call me bitch?

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Jan 8, 2018 03:42:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
11r20 wrote:
i may start writin in rednek round here jest t' make
them lib carpetbaggers ooowee mad.

ye~ah, o'bozo weaponized them revenuers ta go afta t'
cornservatives n' teaparty folks.


Recheck or a little pink around the ears also works!!! Just ask Archie..

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Jan 8, 2018 08:16:10   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
working class stiff wrote:
Since she was answering my post...why did you encourage her to call me bitch?


1. Because I have a sense of humor.
2. Because 'petulant child' didn't work in that sentence.

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Jan 8, 2018 09:05:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
straightUp wrote:
To make things clear, why don't we just call the oligarchs/elitists/PTB, the plutocracy, because that is essentially the system by which the oligarchs, elitists and "powers that be" wield their power over the government... through the use of money.

Another term that I think confuses you is the term "liberal". In the classic sense, Republicans (up until the Tea Party) have been just as liberal as the Democrats... Both sides pushed for economic liberalism more commonly known as "free-market" which effectively gives money more power over the market than democracy. I have been very aware of both the Republican AND the Democratic connection to the plutocracy, again... for decades. This is why the 2016 elections was for me a battle for the lesser of two evils.

Finally, you seem to have this "Polly Anna" view of the plutocracy where they are all coordinated and synchronized behind one party or one candidate as if they all have the same agenda. The reality is that the people involved in the plutocracy are fighting each other for control and when the elections come they place bets on ALL the candidates. Trump got millions from the Mercer family and Jeb Bush got more funding from the plutocracy than Hillary did.

So you can carry on with this idiot notion that the "oligarchy/elitists/PTB" are riding exclusively on the Democrats if you want but that will only perpetuate your ignorance.
To make things clear, why don't we just call the o... (show quote)


You make points we agree on sUp.
So much to cover, and not in the mood to spend the time this morning.

For starters; I was being facetious about your English heritage. There is no problem there. Your education?

"Finally, you seem to have this "Polly Anna" view of the plutocracy where they are all coordinated and synchronized behind one party or one candidate as if they all have the same agenda." - sUp
In large part they are
but like you wrote;
"The reality is that the people involved in the plutocracy are fighting each other for control and when the elections come they place bets on ALL the candidates. Trump got millions from the Mercer family and Jeb Bush got more funding from the plutocracy than Hillary did."
True; The PTB work both sides to make sure the bases are covered.
BUT; They hugely stacked the deck against Trump, as they did Ron Paul.

BTW;
"The fact that you are suggesting I can never figure out why "we were given" a constitution, really enforces my suspicion that you don't even know what the U.S. Constitution is." - sUp
Just to keep it real simple; The constitution was designed to keep the Federal government in check. To restrict its powers.
I hope you have figured that out.

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Jan 8, 2018 10:25:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Super Dave wrote:
Gee.. Obama puposely funds terrorist that are shouting "Death to America", and Hillary delete/Bleachbits subpoenaed documents, but you found some context that makes it all just swell.

And you wonder why people think Progressivism is a religion?


Yup, about covers it rather nicely !!!

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Jan 8, 2018 15:42:33   #
Ricktloml
 
working class stiff wrote:
And more fake news. IRS did not target only conservative groups.

http://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/353979-inspector-general-irs-may-have-targeted-liberal-groups

And your a fine one to talk about respecting the President of the U.S. OOOBAMY? really?


I'm sorry, but the very few liberal groups that received a delay did not show a pattern of abuse. Conservative groups WERE targeted.

In this "unprecedented" victorious conclusion to a years-long legal battle against the IRS, the bureaucratic agency has just admitted in federal court that it wrongly targeted Tea Party and conservative groups during the Obama administration and issued an apology to ACLJ clients for doing so.
Justice Settles With Conservative Groups That SUED IRS Claiming...
www.govexec.com?oversight'2017/10/justice...conservative...irs...targeting/142105/

IRS Admits Targeting Conservatives For Tax Scrutiny in 2012 Election
https://washintonpost.com?...?irs-admits-targeting-conservatives...?3b6aOada-b9

IRS Apologizes For Aggressive Scrutiny of Conservative Groups
https:/npr.org./.../irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

IRS Apologizes For Unfair Treatment of Conservative Groups Applying For...
https://wwwcsmonitor.com/.../irs-apologizes-for-unfair-treatment-of-conservative-gr...


There isn't even ANY question about the targeting of CONSERVATIVE groups in the 2012 election. The IRS LOST the lawsuit.

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Jan 8, 2018 23:38:03   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Morgan wrote:
Straight up and true on all points well taken. We have to fight against the divisive mantra, if we can come together, we have a fighting chance from those who truly wish to take away our democracy, our republic.....great job, as usual, have you thought about becoming syndicated? I think now is time, the right time for your voice to really be heard...by many...

Thank you for the encouragement Morgan. :) My daughter is telling me the same thing.
I think you're right about the times. There seems to be a convergence of several long-standing trends, such as globalization, resource peaks, climate change and a super concentration of wealth and power that guarantees a rough road ahead for most people in the world. (Americans especially because we have the farthest to fall.)

I'm sure it would benefit us all tremendously if we could get past the tabloids that do more to distract us than inform us of the real dangers ahead.

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Jan 8, 2018 23:39:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
working class stiff wrote:
OOoooh....another internet tough guy.

LOL... the scariest kind of all!

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Jan 9, 2018 01:47:31   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
You make points we agree on sUp.
So much to cover, and not in the mood to spend the time this morning.

For starters; I was being facetious about your English heritage. There is no problem there. Your education?

"Finally, you seem to have this "Polly Anna" view of the plutocracy where they are all coordinated and synchronized behind one party or one candidate as if they all have the same agenda." - sUp
In large part they are
but like you wrote;
"The reality is that the people involved in the plutocracy are fighting each other for control and when the elections come they place bets on ALL the candidates. Trump got millions from the Mercer family and Jeb Bush got more funding from the plutocracy than Hillary did."
True; The PTB work both sides to make sure the bases are covered.
BUT; They hugely stacked the deck against Trump, as they did Ron Paul.
You make points we agree on sUp. br So much to cov... (show quote)

Who is "they" eagle? You're attaching intentions to generic pronouns as if "they" have a coordinated agenda. When I said they were "placing bets" I was being quite literal... and there are no bets if all the players want the same winner. The reason why candidates like Trump, Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders didn't get as much is because the wealthiest and most powerful oligarchs are the neoliberal globalists, like the Bush family who are betting on candidates that will give them control over an effective U.S. foreign policy. Neither Ron Paul, nor Bernie Sanders have any interest in neoliberalism and the LAST thing the globalists want is a buffoon like Trump who is more likely to screw everything up. So they put their bets on experienced neoliberal candidates like Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton.

eagleye13 wrote:

BTW;
"The fact that you are suggesting I can never figure out why "we were given" a constitution, really enforces my suspicion that you don't even know what the U.S. Constitution is." - sUp
Just to keep it real simple; The constitution was designed to keep the Federal government in check. To restrict its powers.
I hope you have figured that out.

Enough to know you're wrong. (I still find it hard to believe that so many Americans fail this one.)

As I already stated, the Constitution is a blueprint for the government itself. ...As in... before the Constitution, there WAS no federal government to limit! So while it's true the Constitution does indeed limit the power of the government, that is not it's entire purpose anymore than the entire purpose of a blueprint is to limit the size of a building.

so back at ya. ;)

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Jan 9, 2018 01:56:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Ricktloml wrote:
I'm sorry, but the very few liberal groups that received a delay did not show a pattern of abuse. Conservative groups WERE targeted.

Not according to the records. The vast majority of 501c3 applicants funding political campaigns were conservative. It's just numbers... If only 2 liberal groups actually break the rules of tax exemption along with 89 conservative groups and the IRS starts cracking down, it WILL look like conservatives are being targeted.

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Jan 9, 2018 02:10:22   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Super Dave wrote:
1. Because I have a sense of humor.

like the kid that killed the puppy because he thought it was funny?

Super Dave wrote:

2. Because 'petulant child' didn't work in that sentence.

Mmm... maybe not. You kinda set it up for something a little more offensive. I think you chose the right word for your sentiment.

Just in case you haven't thought of this, a smiley face right after your emphatic "bitch" would change the impression you're making.

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Jan 9, 2018 05:54:10   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
And I thought I was the only one that posted this way

Sup,

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Jan 9, 2018 06:16:26   #
Craig AZ Loc: Superior, AZ
 
whitnebrat wrote:
And I thought I was the only one that posted this way

Sup,



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Jan 9, 2018 10:14:06   #
Morgan
 
proud republican wrote:
Nope...If Bernie Sanders would of won Presidency, believe me, this country would of moved towards communism/socialism pretty damn fast!!1




I don't believe that at all, that's just what you believe.Bernie is not a dictator and he believes in our constitution.

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