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Jan 7, 2018 16:44:55   #
intel1919
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, They all suck. Nothing but leftist sock puppets, the lot of them. Pew Research Centers Project for Excellence in Journalism gave MSNBC the dubious distinction of the most biased network on TV.


What happened to reporting NEWS in this country? What the he'll is wrong with the Democratic party. I have no idea who they are anymore. Anyone that claims to be a Democrat and is buying into all of this hoopla opinion reporting from all of these networks are, yeah I think they are... Brainwashed. More on this at end of post.

I consider myself a moderate republican, with many libertarian beliefs.

Many of the policies of the last admin were clearly in violation to established laws (e.g. immigration, sanctuary cities, resource appropriations to non citizens, and others with exec orders lime appropriation of land to federal government).

Many of the tax ideas and healthcare repeal ideas are very good ideas. Not perfect, but a good start. On taxes, we need to compete globally on tax rates. Check the facts. Historically - tax rate reductions have always increased government revenues as more people go back to work. In the case of corporate taxes, long over due to get on a level playing field. Business create jobs.

Healthcare. Best thing imo that came out of ACA was preexisting condition rules, IMO. Does not apply to me but I know so many people that were impacted by that previous hurdle. And, all I know were fine paying more for insurance help. However, socialized healthcare is just bad. I started my own small business, left Corp america and the rates have skyrocketed. Some of it related to ACA, but other reasons can be attributed to other factors e.g. medical care/drug business models, lack of competition. Also, number of people on handout programs is not helping (not just healthcare). What happened to people productively contributing and earning a living? Sure, there are unfortunate folks that really do need help. Let's help them. However, how many folks are using the system, or have a "they owe me mentality" out there? I know many. I ha e a family member that has mastered it.....

So I am rambling. My final thoughts.

To all of you so called Progressive democrats....

1. Shame on you for calling me a racist. I am not that.
2. Shame on you for calling our President a racist, and comparing him to Hitler.
3. Stop attacking me if I disagree with you. You are the haters, not me if we differ in our thoughts.
4. You are the ones dividing our nation, not me.
5. Wages. Way to go to push "living wages". You get to tell those folks that automation will accelerate their job destruction. Oh, when was working a low level McDonald's or Wal-Mart job was ever meant to be a career occupation? (Oh boy, I am sure I will get clobbered for that lay statement).

I know myself, plus many others like me, do not poll, or discuss many of the "issues" and are growing sick and tired of the progressive vision and rants.... when we engage you, you cannot accept any difference in thinking and therefore you attack. You appear to have lost yourself, your values, and any resemblance of a moral compass. I assume you have no God or Higher Power to believe in. Your movement is very sad, very concerning that you immiadiay want to shut down speech and beliefs of others or call us racists, sexist, homophobic, greedy, etc. If we disagree. You are the haters. You have become the movement of fascism and communism, not me. Try comparing our Bill of Rights and the ten planks from the Communist Manifesto. Based on my interpretation, the Progressive movement want to continue down the path of the latter... You decide.

You will attack this post. It will be predictable. Arguments will be something like:

1. I am deranged, a racist, not compassionate, or the favorite, I have no empathy.
2. None of above, just that I am stupid. Or maybe not bright "to see what is going on", or something like that.

I could cover other topics, North Korea, security leaks, Russia (I have some very different ideas what that is really about), legal immigration (my mom immigrated legally 40 years ago), gun control/2nd Ammendment rights.

I know I am on to something as I have two young daughters , 18 and 22. Both were democrats, but one has shifted to an independent and the other republican. All by thinking independently and researching the facts.

So many brainwashed folks out there. Our media shovels all of this noise to make money, from the left and right. Social media is out of control. People, put your smartphone down, breath. Watch a movie.

If you be believe in something, fine. Elect folks to change the laws, but respect the current laws. But don't force your views on others with hatred, violence and fear. We have to find compromise people.

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Jan 7, 2018 17:21:29   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
intel1919 wrote:
What happened to reporting NEWS in this country? What the he'll is wrong with the Democratic party. I have no idea who they are anymore. Anyone that claims to be a Democrat and is buying into all of this hoopla opinion reporting from all of these networks are, yeah I think they are... Brainwashed. More on this at end of post.

I consider myself a moderate republican, with many libertarian beliefs.

Many of the policies of the last admin were clearly in violation to established laws (e.g. immigration, sanctuary cities, resource appropriations to non citizens, and others with exec orders lime appropriation of land to federal government).

Many of the tax ideas and healthcare repeal ideas are very good ideas. Not perfect, but a good start. On taxes, we need to compete globally on tax rates. Check the facts. Historically - tax rate reductions have always increased government revenues as more people go back to work. In the case of corporate taxes, long over due to get on a level playing field. Business create jobs.

Healthcare. Best thing imo that came out of ACA was preexisting condition rules, IMO. Does not apply to me but I know so many people that were impacted by that previous hurdle. And, all I know were fine paying more for insurance help. However, socialized healthcare is just bad. I started my own small business, left Corp america and the rates have skyrocketed. Some of it related to ACA, but other reasons can be attributed to other factors e.g. medical care/drug business models, lack of competition. Also, number of people on handout programs is not helping (not just healthcare). What happened to people productively contributing and earning a living? Sure, there are unfortunate folks that really do need help. Let's help them. However, how many folks are using the system, or have a "they owe me mentality" out there? I know many. I ha e a family member that has mastered it.....

So I am rambling. My final thoughts.

To all of you so called Progressive democrats....

1. Shame on you for calling me a racist. I am not that.
2. Shame on you for calling our President a racist, and comparing him to Hitler.
3. Stop attacking me if I disagree with you. You are the haters, not me if we differ in our thoughts.
4. You are the ones dividing our nation, not me.
5. Wages. Way to go to push "living wages". You get to tell those folks that automation will accelerate their job destruction. Oh, when was working a low level McDonald's or Wal-Mart job was ever meant to be a career occupation? (Oh boy, I am sure I will get clobbered for that lay statement).

I know myself, plus many others like me, do not poll, or discuss many of the "issues" and are growing sick and tired of the progressive vision and rants.... when we engage you, you cannot accept any difference in thinking and therefore you attack. You appear to have lost yourself, your values, and any resemblance of a moral compass. I assume you have no God or Higher Power to believe in. Your movement is very sad, very concerning that you immiadiay want to shut down speech and beliefs of others or call us racists, sexist, homophobic, greedy, etc. If we disagree. You are the haters. You have become the movement of fascism and communism, not me. Try comparing our Bill of Rights and the ten planks from the Communist Manifesto. Based on my interpretation, the Progressive movement want to continue down the path of the latter... You decide.

You will attack this post. It will be predictable. Arguments will be something like:

1. I am deranged, a racist, not compassionate, or the favorite, I have no empathy.
2. None of above, just that I am stupid. Or maybe not bright "to see what is going on", or something like that.

I could cover other topics, North Korea, security leaks, Russia (I have some very different ideas what that is really about), legal immigration (my mom immigrated legally 40 years ago), gun control/2nd Ammendment rights.

I know I am on to something as I have two young daughters , 18 and 22. Both were democrats, but one has shifted to an independent and the other republican. All by thinking independently and researching the facts.

So many brainwashed folks out there. Our media shovels all of this noise to make money, from the left and right. Social media is out of control. People, put your smartphone down, breath. Watch a movie.

If you be believe in something, fine. Elect folks to change the laws, but respect the current laws. But don't force your views on others with hatred, violence and fear. We have to find compromise people.
What happened to reporting NEWS in this country? ... (show quote)


Welcome to OPP..gREAT POST!!

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Jan 7, 2018 17:24:58   #
Radiance3
 
proud republican wrote:
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ugliest host on TV, and runner up award goes to Rachel (mad cow)Maddow.....What about you guys ,,what is your choice???? There are so many others!!!!
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ug... (show quote)


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CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC are all FAKE NEWS. MSNBC Joe Scarborough, is the most disgusting LIAR and FACTORY OF FAKE NEWS. Scarborough formerly divorced twice, is engaged to marry a divorced woman and co-anchor Brzezinski . Both of them have various children in prior marriages. Both are toxic LIARS, which are their means of earning for a living.

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Jan 7, 2018 17:25:11   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
I watched CNN and MSNBC all i hear from them is pure HATE that being spewed about this President!!1They are PATHETIC!!!

And did you hear Fox issue pure hate at Obama and Hillary? Was that not equally pathetic?

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Jan 7, 2018 17:28:02   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
And did you hear Fox issue pure hate at Obama and Hillary? Was that not equally pathetic?


Obama and Hillary have more then plenty of ignorant people that are ready to lie for them..Some on OPP included..So no ,i dont feel that FOX standing up for our President is pathetic!!!

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Jan 7, 2018 17:29:45   #
PeterS
 
intel1919 wrote:
What happened to reporting NEWS in this country? What the he'll is wrong with the Democratic party. I have no idea who they are anymore. Anyone that claims to be a Democrat and is buying into all of this hoopla opinion reporting from all of these networks are, yeah I think they are... Brainwashed. More on this at end of post.


Fox news made it's mark by delivering opinion news. If you are buying into what they say are you not equally brainwashed?

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Jan 7, 2018 17:50:56   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
Fox news made it's mark by delivering opinion news. If you are buying into what they say are you not equally brainwashed?


So is MSNBC AND CNN they all are opinion news

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Jan 7, 2018 19:11:17   #
Happishark
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Rush kicked his addiction to painkillers 15 years ago. His audience has grown by leaps and bounds since then. Even liberal news reporters have stated their admiration for Rush's courage in kicking his addiction. So, why don't you grow up, Kevyn, be a man rather than a whiney sniveler.


Thank you for citing facts rather than hurling insults.

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Jan 8, 2018 14:17:28   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
proud republican wrote:
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ugliest host on TV, and runner up award goes to Rachel (mad cow)Maddow.....What about you guys ,,what is your choice???? There are so many others!!!!
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ug... (show quote)


Dem's/liberals are consistently the uglier specimens on the Boob Tube.
Apparently; ugliness seeps out from within, and it shows.
God works in mysterious ways. There are those He blesses, and those He takes to task.

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Jan 8, 2018 18:06:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
I guess we will have to wait until next Wed to see who won Fake media award!!! To bad, i needed some laugh today...

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Jan 8, 2018 18:25:50   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
Because I was a Fox listener in the past. As for people wanting to make an informed decision--you guys can't even read two sentences written by a liberal without exploding. As such, I find it especially dubious that anyone of you could make it through the likes of Morning Joe, who is a conservative, much less someone like Maddow without becoming a complete mental zombie by the end. No, more likely you guys are repeating what others are telling you to say other than anything you are gaining from your own diverse listening habits--which I doubt ever ventures to the left.

Myself, I like what I watch. If you guys don't like it then don't watch it. Problem solved...
Because I was a Fox listener in the past. As for p... (show quote)


Oh chit o deer you just advised what you and I have done for a very long time. I do tune in on MSNBC maybe 5 minutes a week but never listen to anything from ABC or NBC. My wife watches a CBS local channel so sometimes I manage to see some of their crap when I happen in to her watching room. I am like her in that I just don't watch any of the CBS crap that isn't local in nature.

You are so right about Morning Joe which I haven't allowed on my TV since that election he and his girl friend make so much liberal noise about.

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Jan 8, 2018 18:28:11   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
Fox news made it's mark by delivering opinion news. If you are buying into what they say are you not equally brainwashed?


Hardy, har, har, har. Petey, I guess you really don't know much about Fox since you stopped watching them. How many years ago was that, anyway?

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Jan 8, 2018 20:21:40   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
proud republican wrote:
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ugliest host on TV, and runner up award goes to Rachel (mad cow)Maddow.....What about you guys ,,what is your choice???? There are so many others!!!!
MSNBC'S Morning Joe for being the most sick and ug... (show quote)


My choice is the the daily briefing given by his press secretary. It is a fountain of fake news and full of dishonesty and falsehood.

"The Fire and Fury" is a perfect summation for this administration. No need for the author to fact check or worry about truth because the administration worries about neither.

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Jan 8, 2018 20:32:50   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
working class stiff wrote:
My choice is the the daily briefing given by his press secretary. It is a fountain of fake news and full of dishonesty and falsehood.

"The Fire and Fury" is a perfect summation for this administration. No need for the author to fact check or worry about truth because the administration worries about neither.
Butt-hurt people are fun to watch.

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Jan 8, 2018 20:36:43   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Super Dave wrote:
Butt-hurt people are fun to watch.


Yeah...you're really starting to slide downhill when it comes to discussion. Oh well....since I can't take you seriously, no harm no foul.

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