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Jan 7, 2018 14:18:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Time>>>>>>>>>>>>> from about 16000 BC to present day.. remnants are in Greenland, Antarctica, and the Himalayas..and other high mountains.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:19:38   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)

Not if the 3rd world countries don't control their pollution, we can't do it alone. Mother Nature will take care of everything eventually. You can't argue with Mother Nature.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:20:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
The answer to your quandary is quite simple.
Import your moose meat from North Canada (tastes better anyway) -- and learn to eat more possum.
Start cutting down your extra trees and split it up for future firewood. Y'all gonna need it!



that is so obvious, how could I miss.. Thank you, thank you...

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Jan 7, 2018 14:21:40   #
S. Maturin
 
permafrost wrote:
//www.livescience.com/49774-ocean-co2-ended-ice-age.html

Ended>>>>>>>>>>>Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
By Becky Oskin, Contributing Writer | February 11, 2015 01:00pm ET
125 83 MORE
Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
Credit: SurangaSL/Shutterstock.com
A massive outpouring of carbon dioxide from the deep ocean may have helped end the last ice age, scientists report today.

There is strong evidence that changes in Earth's orbit set the pace of the planet's ice ages, by altering how much sunlight reaches the Northern Hemisphere. Yet, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere also wobble with the advance and retreat of massive ice sheets, according to observations of ice cores and old ocean sediments. Carbon dioxide levels are lower during an ice age and higher when an ice age ends.

Now, scientists have documented a source for the massive exhalations of potent climate-altering gas seen at the end of the last ice age, about 16,000 years ago. [Photos: The 8 Coldest Places on Earth]

The oceans were leaking carbon dioxide to the atmosphere," said study co-author Gavin Foster from the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom.

The researchers, led by Miguel Angel Martínez-Botíz of Britain’s National Oceanography Center in Southampton, looked at ice-age seafloor sediments in two regions where ocean currents force deep- ocean water to the surface. They examined the shells of single-celled microbes called foraminifera, which preserve the ratio of chemicals in seawater as they grow. A certain chemical ratio involving boron is a proxy for the carbon dioxide concentration in seawater thousands of years ago, when the microbes lived and died.

The samples tested in the study come from two seafloor drilling sites. One is located in the southern Atlantic Ocean, midway between South America and Africa, and the other is offshore Ecuador on the underwater Carnegie Ridge.

Very high concentrations of dissolved carbon dioxide suddenly appeared in surface waters of the southern Atlantic Ocean and the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean at the end of the last ice age, the researchers said today (Feb. 11) in the journal Nature. Surface waters in both regions show a dramatic rise in dissolved carbon dioxide levels at the same time as the recorded rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide in ice cores, the researchers report.

During the early Holocene Epoch, about 10,000 years ago, the carbon dioxide exhalations continued, yet gas levels stabilized in the atmosphere, according to the new study. This suggests that something starting sucking up the gas, perhaps re-growing forests or expanding peat bogs on land, the researchers said.
//www.livescience.com/49774-ocean-co2-ended-ice-ag... (show quote)


Science fiction and fright movies often start with a question ... just like your 'reference'. Blather, innuendo, supposition, guess... we deserve more, don't you think?

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Jan 7, 2018 14:23:59   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Oh shut up. You have no answer. What are you gonna use that isn’t toxic in your mind? Wind, solar? All you guys do is whoa is me the Climates falling. Nuclear? Comes with its own problems. Right? Your solution. Just quit using fossil fuels. Not even remotely realistic. I’m constantly amazed how worried you guys are about climate change yet Iran getting nukes, ISIS recruiting and rocket man don’t phase you.


What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth responding to, crawl back into your hole. FYI... no, whoa is me, more to the liking of Clean up your own s**t. No one EVER said to stop using fossil fuels, you ignoramus, of course its unrealistic. YOU keep posting Climate Change you Russian paid troll. you are completely transparent.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:24:13   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
permafrost wrote:
//www.livescience.com/49774-ocean-co2-ended-ice-age.html

Ended>>>>>>>>>>>Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
By Becky Oskin, Contributing Writer | February 11, 2015 01:00pm ET
125 83 MORE
Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
Credit: SurangaSL/Shutterstock.com
A massive outpouring of carbon dioxide from the deep ocean may have helped end the last ice age, scientists report today.

There is strong evidence that changes in Earth's orbit set the pace of the planet's ice ages, by altering how much sunlight reaches the Northern Hemisphere. Yet, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere also wobble with the advance and retreat of massive ice sheets, according to observations of ice cores and old ocean sediments. Carbon dioxide levels are lower during an ice age and higher when an ice age ends.

Now, scientists have documented a source for the massive exhalations of potent climate-altering gas seen at the end of the last ice age, about 16,000 years ago. [Photos: The 8 Coldest Places on Earth]

The oceans were leaking carbon dioxide to the atmosphere," said study co-author Gavin Foster from the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom.

The researchers, led by Miguel Angel Martínez-Botíz of Britain’s National Oceanography Center in Southampton, looked at ice-age seafloor sediments in two regions where ocean currents force deep- ocean water to the surface. They examined the shells of single-celled microbes called foraminifera, which preserve the ratio of chemicals in seawater as they grow. A certain chemical ratio involving boron is a proxy for the carbon dioxide concentration in seawater thousands of years ago, when the microbes lived and died.

The samples tested in the study come from two seafloor drilling sites. One is located in the southern Atlantic Ocean, midway between South America and Africa, and the other is offshore Ecuador on the underwater Carnegie Ridge.

Very high concentrations of dissolved carbon dioxide suddenly appeared in surface waters of the southern Atlantic Ocean and the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean at the end of the last ice age, the researchers said today (Feb. 11) in the journal Nature. Surface waters in both regions show a dramatic rise in dissolved carbon dioxide levels at the same time as the recorded rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide in ice cores, the researchers report.

During the early Holocene Epoch, about 10,000 years ago, the carbon dioxide exhalations continued, yet gas levels stabilized in the atmosphere, according to the new study. This suggests that something starting sucking up the gas, perhaps re-growing forests or expanding peat bogs on land, the researchers said.
//www.livescience.com/49774-ocean-co2-ended-ice-ag... (show quote)


Again! Mother Nature.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:25:37   #
S. Maturin
 
permafrost wrote:
Time>>>>>>>>>>>>> from about 16000 BC to present day.. remnants are in Greenland, Antarctica, and the Himalayas..and other high mountains.


16,000BC? If that is accurate, do you suppose there was panic among the earth's occupants then? Did they not realize they only had 'decades'? Reply in reptilian, saber tooth tiger, or bison if you could.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:30:19   #
S. Maturin
 
Morgan wrote:
What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth responding to, crawl back into your hole. FYI... no, whoa is me, more to the liking of Clean up your own s**t. No one EVER said to stop using fossil fuels, you ignoramus, of course its unrealistic. YOU keep posting Climate Change you Russian paid troll. you are completely transparent.
What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth respo... (show quote)


"..What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth responding to, .." and yet you did!

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Jan 7, 2018 14:30:34   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth responding to, crawl back into your hole. FYI... no, whoa is me, more to the liking of Clean up your own s**t. No one EVER said to stop using fossil fuels, you ignoramus, of course its unrealistic. YOU keep posting Climate Change you Russian paid troll. you are completely transparent.
What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth respo... (show quote)


Why did you respond to it then?

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Jan 7, 2018 14:32:12   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
How in the world can these people come up with man made global warming as settled science? According to these same scientists the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old. Got no problem with that. So we have been measuring temperatures accurately for what, couple hundred years? Ask any mathematician if a sample size that small when compared to the age of the earth could ever give you an accurate reading of the future temperatures.




You really must not read anything for you to even ask your question..."How in the world can these people come up with man-made global warming as settled science". It is called technology, science, research accumulated proven data. Tell me Einstein how do you think our technology can PREDICT where an asteroid would land if falling to earth?

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Jan 7, 2018 14:33:00   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
THE SOLUTION ! Designed just for our resident dim-witted liberals.



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Jan 7, 2018 14:33:55   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
You really must not read anything for you to even ask your question..."How in the world can these people come up with man-made global warming as settled science". It is called technology, science, research accumulated proven data. Tell me Einstein how do you think our technology can PREDICT where an asteroid would land if falling to earth?


Why is the "proven"data being altered then?

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Jan 7, 2018 14:35:17   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why is the "proven"data being altered then?


Oops! I'm sorry! I know that's another one of those uncomfortable questions that must be avoided. My bad!

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Jan 7, 2018 14:39:18   #
Morgan
 
S. Maturin wrote:
"..What an amazingly ignorant comment not worth responding to, .." and yet you did!


Not to your ridiculous comments of

What are you gonna use that isn’t toxic in your mind? Wind, solar?

Nuclear? Comes with its own problems. Right?

I’m constantly amazed how worried you guys are about climate change yet Iran getting nukes, ISIS recruiting and rocket man don’t phase you.

Only on your pathetic accusations.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:44:09   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
JFlorio wrote:
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true believer. I've said it before. I don't care if it's real or not. I would like more funds diverted, mostly by the states themselves to fighting pollution. Air and water. I don't want to see people suffer because of some fossil fuel is evil BS. They will. If you could stop all fossil fuel use tomorrow I believe we will still have droughts, hurricanes, and floods. Many in this world are struggling to find enough to eat every single day. You think climate change is a big worry? I'll say it again. It's math. You guys can scream to the heavens that man made global warming is settled science. Only in your mind and many scientists whose funding depends on going along. I'm going to make this easy. Let's say, hell, let's say we've been measuring temps accurately for 500 years. Would any scientist use that minute a sample size , considering the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old to predict anything. The answer is hell no. Follow the money perm. I know you won't. This is something the left can use to control people eventually and for some unknown reason you people love being controlled.
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true... (show quote)

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Speaking of money and climate change J:

Despite the well-known failures and struggles of the renewable energy sector, ex Senator/ ex-Vice President Al Gore managed to profit quite handsomely from multiple “green” energy investments.

He did well - really, really well. Take, for instance, the fact that since getting into the "global warming" business in 2000, Gore’s personal wealth, twelve years later, grew by approximately $98 MILLION. The Oscar winning, Nobel Peace Prize winning, global warming, green energy guru also sold his shares of the failed progressive "Current" TV CABLE station to Al Jazeera, the Oil-Funded, Anti-American, Anti-Israeli network, netting Gore $100 MILLION with his 20 percent stake of the $500 MILLION TOTAL SALE. He DEFENDED the sale as a network which "gives voice to those who are not typically heard; to speak truth to power; to provide independent and diverse points of view; and to tell the stories that no one else is telling." (Gee, How allegiant of him!!)

We should realize, however, that "poor" Gore probably needed those millions just to pay the energy-hungry gas and electric bills on his MULTI-MANSIONS and Gulfstream Private Jet. He did try to save having to pay that "fair share" tax that Obama kept pushing, but missed it by a couple of days. Seems the kind of "green" Gore preached to us, and the "green" he was fond of accumulating for himself, were separate and self-serving. (HYPOCRITE!!)

After less than three years, Al Jazeera America shuttered its cable TV and digital operations The decision by the AJAM board was “driven by the fact that our business model is simply not sustainable in light of the economic challenges in the U.S. media marketplace." (NO INFORMATION REGARDING VIEWER PARTICIPATION AND RATINGS WAS AVAILABLE!!) (LOL)

The liars-in-charge benefited. We were betrayed!!

FYI - GORE'S REAL INCONVENIENT TRUTH!!

• The past year, Gore’s home energy use averaged 19,241 kilowatt hours (kWh) every month, compared to the U.S. household average of 901 kWh per month.

• Gore guzzles more electricity in one year than the average American family uses in 21 years.5

• In September of 2016, Gore’s home consumed 30,993 kWh in just one month – as much energy as a typical American family burns in 34 months.

• During the last 12 months, Gore devoured 66,159 kWh of electricity just heating his pool. That is enough energy to power six average U.S. households for a year.

• From August 2016 through July 2017, Gore spent almost $22,000 on electricity bills.

• Gore paid an estimated $60,000 to install 33 solar panels. Those solar panels produce an average of 1,092 kWh per month, only 5.7% of Gore’s typical monthly energy consumption.

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