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Jan 7, 2018 13:56:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
You all have such a concern about control.. I agree..

what happens to that concern when we bring up the orange man and his tax theft and policies???

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Jan 7, 2018 13:58:14   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
S. Maturin wrote:
This babbling post betrays your pseudo & false sense of reality: "When it ended, for a varity of reasons." STATE THOSE varity(sic) OF REASONS)

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades.. "..only decades.. REALLY? HOW IN HELL DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT?

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible." YOU are an ALARMIST- ALGORE is proud of you, son.
This babbling post betrays your pseudo & false... (show quote)


You stole my thunder! Had I not been forced to burn some fossil fuel to go purchase the onion I forgot yesterday, I would have beat you to it!

How does anybody know how long it took to melt the glaciers last go round?

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Jan 7, 2018 13:58:39   #
Morgan
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Yup, just straining and sweating through my Sunday brunch.


Ah yes, you must be lovely to share a meal with Comrade.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:00:00   #
S. Maturin
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)


LET ME TRY ONCE MORE:


This babbling post betrays your pseudo & false sense of reality: "When it ended, for a varity of reasons." (STATE THOSE varity(sic) OF REASONS)

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades.. "..only decades.. REALLY? HOW IN HELL DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT?

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible." YOU are an ALARMIST- ALGORE is proud of you, son.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:01:10   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
You all have such a concern about control.. I agree..

what happens to that concern when we bring up the orange man and his tax theft and policies???


Tax and theft policies? Don't go changing the subject now!

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Jan 7, 2018 14:04:36   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)


The answer to your quandary is quite simple.
Import your moose meat from North Canada (tastes better anyway) -- and learn to eat more possum.
Start cutting down your extra trees and split it up for future firewood. Y'all gonna need it!



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Jan 7, 2018 14:05:05   #
S. Maturin
 
Morgan wrote:
Ah yes, you must be lovely to share a meal with Comrade.


Since I am particular as with whom I enjoy brunch, you will never know. Just add that to the library of things of which you insist upon being ignorant.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:05:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
archie bunker wrote:
Tax and theft policies? Don't go changing the subject now!


Noticed that also did you? These guys are professional chicken Little’s.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:06:50   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)


How old are Trump, and the evil Koch bros? How old are you? Is this something that future generations can't figure out? Why the sudden urgency? Are your kids stupid? Mine aren't and it's not something to pull a knee jerk, and try to fix yesterday. Gimme a break!

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Jan 7, 2018 14:10:20   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true believer. I've said it before. I don't care if it's real or not. I would like more funds diverted, mostly by the states themselves to fighting pollution. Air and water. I don't want to see people suffer because of some fossil fuel is evil BS. They will. If you could stop all fossil fuel use tomorrow I believe we will still have droughts, hurricanes, and floods. Many in this world are struggling to find enough to eat every single day. You think climate change is a big worry? I'll say it again. It's math. You guys can scream to the heavens that man made global warming is settled science. Only in your mind and many scientists whose funding depends on going along. I'm going to make this easy. Let's say, hell, let's say we've been measuring temps accurately for 500 years. Would any scientist use that minute a sample size , considering the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old to predict anything. The answer is hell no. Follow the money perm. I know you won't. This is something the left can use to control people eventually and for some unknown reason you people love being controlled.
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true... (show quote)


The only thing the left is trying to get a handle on is the toxic waste that is produced from the production, refining and using fossil fuel. But you folks keep clamoring that we are trying to control the climate, which is farthest from the actual truth but of course, that is what they keep feeding you and what you keep digesting, sooner(hopefully) than later you guys will finally wise up and get sick of it and throw it up. Unfortunately much more damage will be done to the earth, creatures and people, and maybe unreversible.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:12:29   #
LurkingTom Loc: North Dakota
 
Morgan wrote:
The only thing the left is trying to get a handle on is the toxic waste that is produced from the production, refining and using fossil fuel. But you folks keep clamoring that we are trying to control the climate, which is farthest from the actual truth but of course, that is what they keep feeding you and what you keep digesting, sooner(hopefully) than later you guys will finally wise up and get sick of it and throw it up. Unfortunately much more damage will be done to the earth, creatures and people, and maybe unreversible.
The only thing the left is trying to get a handle ... (show quote)


What damage is that exactly?

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Jan 7, 2018 14:14:51   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Noticed that also did you? These guys are professional chicken Little’s.


Well, if you can't answer the question at hand, change the question. Divert, duck, dodge.
Do you know how many years it took to melt the glaciers last time around? I dont, but can give you a pretty close approximation in Texas terms.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:16:58   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
S. Maturin wrote:
LET ME TRY ONCE MORE:


This babbling post betrays your pseudo & false sense of reality: "When it ended, for a varity of reasons." (STATE THOSE varity(sic) OF REASONS)

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades.. "..only decades.. REALLY? HOW IN HELL DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT?

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible." YOU are an ALARMIST- ALGORE is proud of you, son.
LET ME TRY ONCE MORE: br br br This babbling pos... (show quote)


//www.livescience.com/49774-ocean-co2-ended-ice-age.html

Ended>>>>>>>>>>>Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
By Becky Oskin, Contributing Writer | February 11, 2015 01:00pm ET
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Did Ocean's Big Burps End Last Ice Age?
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A massive outpouring of carbon dioxide from the deep ocean may have helped end the last ice age, scientists report today.

There is strong evidence that changes in Earth's orbit set the pace of the planet's ice ages, by altering how much sunlight reaches the Northern Hemisphere. Yet, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere also wobble with the advance and retreat of massive ice sheets, according to observations of ice cores and old ocean sediments. Carbon dioxide levels are lower during an ice age and higher when an ice age ends.

Now, scientists have documented a source for the massive exhalations of potent climate-altering gas seen at the end of the last ice age, about 16,000 years ago. [Photos: The 8 Coldest Places on Earth]

The oceans were leaking carbon dioxide to the atmosphere," said study co-author Gavin Foster from the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom.

The researchers, led by Miguel Angel Martínez-Botíz of Britain’s National Oceanography Center in Southampton, looked at ice-age seafloor sediments in two regions where ocean currents force deep- ocean water to the surface. They examined the shells of single-celled microbes called foraminifera, which preserve the ratio of chemicals in seawater as they grow. A certain chemical ratio involving boron is a proxy for the carbon dioxide concentration in seawater thousands of years ago, when the microbes lived and died.

The samples tested in the study come from two seafloor drilling sites. One is located in the southern Atlantic Ocean, midway between South America and Africa, and the other is offshore Ecuador on the underwater Carnegie Ridge.

Very high concentrations of dissolved carbon dioxide suddenly appeared in surface waters of the southern Atlantic Ocean and the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean at the end of the last ice age, the researchers said today (Feb. 11) in the journal Nature. Surface waters in both regions show a dramatic rise in dissolved carbon dioxide levels at the same time as the recorded rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide in ice cores, the researchers report.

During the early Holocene Epoch, about 10,000 years ago, the carbon dioxide exhalations continued, yet gas levels stabilized in the atmosphere, according to the new study. This suggests that something starting sucking up the gas, perhaps re-growing forests or expanding peat bogs on land, the researchers said.

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Jan 7, 2018 14:17:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Oh shut up. You have no answer. What are you gonna use that isn’t toxic in your mind? Wind, solar? All you guys do is whoa is me the Climates falling. Nuclear? Comes with its own problems. Right? Your solution. Just quit using fossil fuels. Not even remotely realistic. I’m constantly amazed how worried you guys are about climate change yet Iran getting nukes, ISIS recruiting and rocket man don’t phase you.
Morgan wrote:
The only thing the left is trying to get a handle on is the toxic waste that is produced from the production, refining and using fossil fuel. But you folks keep clamoring that we are trying to control the climate, which is farthest from the actual truth but of course, that is what they keep feeding you and what you keep digesting, sooner(hopefully) than later you guys will finally wise up and get sick of it and throw it up. Unfortunately much more damage will be done to the earth, creatures and people, and maybe unreversible.
The only thing the left is trying to get a handle ... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2018 14:18:08   #
Morgan
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Since I am particular as with whom I enjoy brunch, you will never know. Just add that to the library of things of which you insist upon being ignorant.


Ha, and I'd never want to know I no sooner have lunch with a warthog than you, my stomach couldn't take it.

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