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Jan 7, 2018 12:44:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
YOU pay attention...Don't twist my words just as the extm.right unreasonable always does, I intentionally said climate change is not the issue, man-made global warming IS, nice try but no cigar as they are two completely different things.


Answer please. Glaciers at one time covered N America as far as Tennessee. No dispute there. Why’d they melt?

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Jan 7, 2018 12:45:16   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Morgan wrote:
I know Exactly what I'm talking about, maybe you should give it up.


BLAH HA HA, you and al gore !

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Jan 7, 2018 12:47:29   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=ghostgotcha]

The kayak photo says it all !

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Jan 7, 2018 12:47:35   #
S. Maturin
 
Morgan wrote:
Привет, моя русская подруга, are you hard at work?


Yup, just straining and sweating through my Sunday brunch.

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Jan 7, 2018 12:48:24   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Answer please. Glaciers at one time covered N America as far as Tennessee. No dispute there. Why’d they melt?


Yeah, and that was a day, or two before the invention of the internal combustion engine.
Good luck getting an answer.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:10:37   #
LurkingTom Loc: North Dakota
 
The climate of the earth is cyclic. It warms up and then cools off. I would guess that GOD designed it to be that way. Where I live, 120 million years ago, was a tropical ocean. That's why most of the dinosaur fossils here are from ocean living creatures. Then, approximately 25000 years ago there was an ice sheet a mile thick or more in this very spot. I suppose if you go back through the geological record, you'll find evidence of this cycle repeating since GOD created the heavens and the earth. Even a complete babbling moron can figure out that man causes none of these cycles.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:13:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
How in the world can these people come up with man made global warming as settled science? According to these same scientists the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old. Got no problem with that. So we have been measuring temperatures accurately for what, couple hundred years? Ask any mathematician if a sample size that small when compared to the age of the earth could ever give you an accurate reading of the future temperatures.
archie bunker wrote:
No, it hasn't been answered. A lot of questions I have on this topic haven't been answered. The dogmatic condescension you people post her answered nothing, and proves nothing. The science isn't settled, and nothing has been proven about my car, toaster, dog, horse, or anything else causing the climate to change.
Data has been altered, computer models, and predictions have been wrong, yet it makes no difference to the chicken littles out there.

I always ask certain questions that are always avoided because to answer them would wreck the narrative. That tells me I'm on the right track.
No, it hasn't been answered. A lot of questions I ... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2018 13:14:51   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Be prepared. Let the babbling begin.
LurkingTom wrote:
The climate of the earth is cyclic. It warms up and then cools off. I would guess that GOD designed it to be that way. Where I live, 120 million years ago, was a tropical ocean. That's why most of the dinosaur fossils here are from ocean living creatures. Then, approximately 25000 years ago there was an ice sheet a mile thick or more in this very spot. I suppose if you go back through the geological record, you'll find evidence of this cycle repeating since GOD created the heavens and the earth. Even a complete babbling moron can figure out that man causes none of these cycles.
The climate of the earth is cyclic. It warms up an... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2018 13:16:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
Answer please. Glaciers at one time covered N America as far as Tennessee. No dispute there. Why’d they melt?




Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..

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Jan 7, 2018 13:18:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
In addition, the earth should be in a cooling stage due to natural cycles..

But it is warming.. Much worse if nature was not trying to work with us to settle the climate...

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Jan 7, 2018 13:20:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)


Lots of good links:
31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/

The great global warming swindle - Full version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX
Lenar Whitney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BzItCPk5j4#t=254

Dr Don Easterbrook Exposes Climate Change Hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI#t=40

How the Global Warming Scare Began
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUDGfCNC-k#t=45

NYT: Scientists 'Startled' at Great Lakes' Rise; Another Warmist Prediction Is Biting the Dust
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/06/30/nyt-scientists-startled-great-lakes-ri...

Al Gore's Inconvenient SCAM, Lies versus Lord Monckton Truth and Logic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElEwhE7B-8o#t=309

5 Scientific Reasons That Global Warming Isn't Happening
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/02/18/5-scientific-reasons-that-global-wa...

Charles Krauthammer Destroys Global Warming Myths in 89 Seconds
http://blog.heritage.org/2014/02/18/charles-krauthammer-destroys-global-warming-myths-89-...

California’s Man-Made Drought – Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert!
http://www.dickmorris.com/californias-man-made-drought-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_so...

All Fools' Eve 2014: The day democracy died
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/all-fools-eve-2014-the-day-democracy-died/#Cp4c2gdIJ3deSZYh.99

Harvard's Faustian bargain dooms it to irrelevance
Exclusive: Lord Monckton challenges university president to climate-change debate
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/harvards-faustian-bargain-dooms-it-to-irrelevance/#1CCrbWKXkQ2...

Alaskan Polar Bears Threatened…By Too Much Spring Ice
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/alaskan-polar-bears-threatened-too-...

George Carlin on Global Warming (comic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=BB0aFPXr4n4

Some day you ought to smarten up and learn something.

The Ice cores don't lie and they go back hundreds of thousands of years.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:30:12   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true believer. I've said it before. I don't care if it's real or not. I would like more funds diverted, mostly by the states themselves to fighting pollution. Air and water. I don't want to see people suffer because of some fossil fuel is evil BS. They will. If you could stop all fossil fuel use tomorrow I believe we will still have droughts, hurricanes, and floods. Many in this world are struggling to find enough to eat every single day. You think climate change is a big worry? I'll say it again. It's math. You guys can scream to the heavens that man made global warming is settled science. Only in your mind and many scientists whose funding depends on going along. I'm going to make this easy. Let's say, hell, let's say we've been measuring temps accurately for 500 years. Would any scientist use that minute a sample size , considering the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old to predict anything. The answer is hell no. Follow the money perm. I know you won't. This is something the left can use to control people eventually and for some unknown reason you people love being controlled.
permafrost wrote:
In addition, the earth should be in a cooling stage due to natural cycles..

But it is warming.. Much worse if nature was not trying to work with us to settle the climate...

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Jan 7, 2018 13:49:30   #
S. Maturin
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes J, the ice age was real.

When it ended, for a varity of reasons.

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades..

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible.

When I go into the area near us, the most apparent is the plant changes. We have more growth from trees and brush normally found south of us then we have ever had.

Moose are nearly gone, part of the problem is tick infestation. winter not cold enough to control them, they have exploded and carry a virus which kill the moose.

Virginia opossum are now common.. 20 years ago, we could not find one..

CO2 is not the most severe greenhouse gas but it is the main culpert due to several interactions.

the aim is to reduce CO2. no chance at all to end it..

so every one of those tasks and efforts that you laugh so hard at are a needed part of the solution.

Will we act in time?? Not if trump and the Koch bros continue to get what they want..
Yes J, the ice age was real. br br When it ended,... (show quote)


This babbling post betrays your pseudo & false sense of reality: "When it ended, for a varity of reasons." STATE THOSE varity(sic) OF REASONS)

Temp increased over centuries and the land glaciers melted. Mostly. Remnants are around..

but this time frame of centuries is, in the current problem cut down to only decades.. "..only decades.. REALLY? HOW IN HELL DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT?

time is the major problem.. No time to adapt.. If that would be possible." YOU are an ALARMIST- ALGORE is proud of you, son.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:53:35   #
Morgan
 
archie bunker wrote:
No, it hasn't been answered. A lot of questions I have on this topic haven't been answered. The dogmatic condescension you people post her answered nothing, and proves nothing. The science isn't settled, and nothing has been proven about my car, toaster, dog, horse, or anything else causing the climate to change.
Data has been altered, computer models, and predictions have been wrong, yet it makes no difference to the chicken littles out there.

I always ask certain questions that are always avoided because to answer them would wreck the narrative. That tells me I'm on the right track.
No, it hasn't been answered. A lot of questions I ... (show quote)


If you want to talk about global warming fine, there is no real debate on climatology, that was created in the efforts to debunk global warming from the industrialists. So which do you want to discuss? But really, it is something easy to research.

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Jan 7, 2018 13:54:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true believer. I've said it before. I don't care if it's real or not. I would like more funds diverted, mostly by the states themselves to fighting pollution. Air and water. I don't want to see people suffer because of some fossil fuel is evil BS. They will. If you could stop all fossil fuel use tomorrow I believe we will still have droughts, hurricanes, and floods. Many in this world are struggling to find enough to eat every single day. You think climate change is a big worry? I'll say it again. It's math. You guys can scream to the heavens that man made global warming is settled science. Only in your mind and many scientists whose funding depends on going along. I'm going to make this easy. Let's say, hell, let's say we've been measuring temps accurately for 500 years. Would any scientist use that minute a sample size , considering the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old to predict anything. The answer is hell no. Follow the money perm. I know you won't. This is something the left can use to control people eventually and for some unknown reason you people love being controlled.
Well I'll give it to you. You're definitely a true... (show quote)




J,

did you ever hear anyone say the effort would end droughts, hurricanes and floods?? That is not even what this is about.. Remember.... severity...

that is 2 severe hurricanes in one month. that is the record storm surge for Sandy. that is tide surge in a blizzard in Boston..

Food wars are coming..

You seem to think the science is based on one model and a one time collection of data.

research goes on every day. Ice cores collected last summer from Greenland and mountain glaciers. pollen data from millions of years ago cataloged and studied..

Basic comparison to past time spans..

glad you remembered follow the money..

Hope you do so. You will find nearly all of funding for anti CC comes from the Koch bros political groups.

Exxon shares in most of them.. A long long list of fossil fuel business can be easily found that contribute to the funding of denial publications and sites..

So, by all means, follow the money..

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