Perm, do you still think we need the technnlogical aspects of the wall? I think that Pres. Trump's proposal includes these aspects. As for the cost, I think we give much more than the 18B projected total cost (1.8 B annual cost over 10 years) to illegals every year, so although not a perfect business model. it works on paper. Still think electronic aspect should go in first, along with more border agents first. Texas and other border states are much more attuned to the problems of current open borders than the rest of the country, as we deal with it first-hand, and the rest of the country deals with only the "filtered" aspects.

Illegals cost this country anywhere from 80 billion to well over one hundred billion per year, depending on whose statistics you use. Personally, I think the wall is a non-starter in many areas. It would work well in some areas; in others it is a joke. In many places the money would be better spent on more electronic or drone surveillance, more Border Patrol and better rapid response capability.
US employers who knowingly hire wetbacks should face severe penalties. Wetbacks who break this country's laws should face far stiffer penalties than they do now. Stop making this country so attractive to poorly educated sponges.

Illegals cost this country anywhere from 80 billion to well over one hundred billion per year, depending on whose statistics you use. Personally, I think the wall is a non-starter in many areas. It would work well in some areas; in others it is a joke. In many places the money would be better spent on more electronic or drone surveillance, more Border Patrol and better rapid response capability.
US employers who knowingly hire wetbacks should face severe penalties. Wetbacks who break this country's laws should face far stiffer penalties than they do now. Stop making this country so attractive to poorly educated sponges.

Your wall will be an issue in a few days..

write your congressman today and kill the wall, kill the wall, kill the wall..


Washington (CNN)The Trump administration has revealed its master plan for securing the border -- and it's going to cost $33 billion.

Of that total, $18 billion will be required for President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall, according to Customs and Border Protection documents obtained by CNN that were sent to lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
The remaining $15 billion would cover technology, personnel and readiness, the document says.
Titled "Critical CBP Requirements to Improve Border Security," the document says CBP has identified what a 2,026-mile border wall system would entail --comprising about 864 miles of new wall and about 1,163 miles of replacement or secondary wall -- even as administration officials and their allies insist they are not pursuing a wall "from sea to shining sea," as Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and her predecessor John Kelly have testified to Congress.
DHS nominee Kirstjen Nielsen: 'No need for a wall from sea to shining sea'
DHS nominee Kirstjen Nielsen: 'No need for a wall from sea to shining sea'
The document says the $18 billion investment will cover 722 miles of border wall -- about 316 new miles of primary structure and about 407 miles of replacement and secondary wall.

There also needs to be a definitive ruling on birthright citizenship. As it is, the child of illegals is NOT a birth citizen of this country. The practice has been to sort of grant de facto citizenship to children born here while their parents are here legally; however this flies in the face of both SCOTUS rulings on the subject; particularly US v Wong Kim Ark1898 in which Wong Kim Ark's birth citizenship status was derived from the fact that his parents were permanent legal residents at the time, NOT someone here on a temp visa.